Problem using Als emulator. - GSM-Forum

Oder · 03-14-2002, 05:37

I have succesfully cloned silver,gold cards using simpic,simemu3.00, but I still have a ploblem with dejans sim scan function(write IMSI KI to card).The same problem occured with Alfs emulator...
Even thought I manage to program both pic and epprom succesfully using ic prog when I try to write imsi and ki I get the message card does not send answer to reset.I do have a master Crd multi programmer and a phoenix and even thought I use it to succesfully extract the ki with sim scan I think it cannot work with the write function.My questions are:
Does dejans,Alfs emulator need the dejan programmer in order to program the card?
Is there any way to write IMSI and KI in ALFs hex files prior to programming the card???Such as we can do with sim emu?
Any help is apreciated

Alf · 03-14-2002, 06:25

How did you write the PIC and EEPROM?

Loader, EEPROM, PIC code?

The card does not send an ATR?

Dejan's sim_scan works with a standard phoenix interface...

If you have no problem with simemu3.0 you should have no problem with my or Dejan's version. Have you programmed the internal eeprom of the PIC?

Well.. you can enter the IMSIs and KIs before programming... but you need to convert the .hex files to bin, alter them and convert back to program...

Anyway... SIMEMU 3.0 is better than my version or Dejan's... only things missing in it are:

- Showing CRD X on the prepaid status
- Access to all message profiles whatever the selected card is
- Settable IMSI/KI using sim_scan (who need this when you can enter it on the phone)

Oder · 03-14-2002, 18:27

Yes I firstly programmed the 16f86/7 with a loader then the 24c64 and finally the flash again.Even thought sim emu emu is better I would like to try it.This is kind of my hobby and I would like to try every available software.I do have a hex bin converter....should I enter the pins,puks in the same a******* as sim emu??if not where???I know it sound strange and I firstly thought I had a bad silver card...Even with corwinphoenix it said the same thing..acune responce....but then it works fine with sim emu so????
I would like to ask you and some other question irrelevant to the subject....What other algorithms are used to the sim cards apart from a38???Should I chech it out at the the etsi.orq???

NNN · 03-17-2002, 06:06

etsi are not releasing any of the algorithms they have ...

03-14-2002, 05:37	#1 (permalink)
Oder Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 4 Member: 10163 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Problem using Als emulator. I have succesfully cloned silver,gold cards using simpic,simemu3.00, but I still have a ploblem with dejans sim scan function(write IMSI KI to card).The same problem occured with Alfs emulator... Even thought I manage to program both pic and epprom succesfully using ic prog when I try to write imsi and ki I get the message card does not send answer to reset.I do have a master Crd multi programmer and a phoenix and even thought I use it to succesfully extract the ki with sim scan I think it cannot work with the write function.My questions are: Does dejans,Alfs emulator need the dejan programmer in order to program the card? Is there any way to write IMSI and KI in ALFs hex files prior to programming the card???Such as we can do with sim emu? Any help is apreciated

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03-14-2002, 06:25	#2 (permalink)
Alf No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portugal Age: 38 Posts: 693 Member: 6156 Status: Offline Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	How did you write the PIC and EEPROM? Loader, EEPROM, PIC code? The card does not send an ATR? Dejan's sim_scan works with a standard phoenix interface... If you have no problem with simemu3.0 you should have no problem with my or Dejan's version. Have you programmed the internal eeprom of the PIC? Well.. you can enter the IMSIs and KIs before programming... but you need to convert the .hex files to bin, alter them and convert back to program... Anyway... SIMEMU 3.0 is better than my version or Dejan's... only things missing in it are: - Showing CRD X on the prepaid status - Access to all message profiles whatever the selected card is - Settable IMSI/KI using sim_scan (who need this when you can enter it on the phone)

03-14-2002, 18:27	#3 (permalink)
Oder Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 4 Member: 10163 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes I firstly programmed the 16f86/7 with a loader then the 24c64 and finally the flash again.Even thought sim emu emu is better I would like to try it.This is kind of my hobby and I would like to try every available software.I do have a hex bin converter....should I enter the pins,puks in the same a******* as sim emu??if not where???I know it sound strange and I firstly thought I had a bad silver card...Even with corwinphoenix it said the same thing..acune responce....but then it works fine with sim emu so???? I would like to ask you and some other question irrelevant to the subject....What other algorithms are used to the sim cards apart from a38???Should I chech it out at the the etsi.orq???

03-17-2002, 06:06	#4 (permalink)
NNN Freak Poster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ME Posts: 450 Member: 8400 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	etsi are not releasing any of the algorithms they have ...