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hex · 02-26-2003, 01:01

Time of switching SIMEMU5 from number on number within the limits of one operator is equal 3-4 seconds.

1 = If to switch by its program, whether it is possible to use 2 numbers simultaneously?
2 = it is possible how or to disconnect a team which sends the telephone at an exit from a network?
That at an input to not be registered again.

I am sorry for bad English.

SirGraham · 02-26-2003, 09:06

Hi Hex,

This limit depens of the phone. With one T68i is very fast, but with other have more problems to make the REFRESH STK command.

Other problem is the SIM make thing when received a command. It´s works with events.

*Menu STK.
*Received commad, SMS,ect...

He haven´t got a timer or other mecanish to activate commands every x seconds...

Other problem more: The connect and disconect of BTS (operator) consume more battery....

Best Regads,
Sir Graham.

shopen · 02-26-2003, 13:20

Hi sir!
Can you tell me more about STK. Or maybe you have documentation about it? Not GSM 11.14...

SirGraham · 02-26-2003, 13:59

Hi shopen,

There isn´t more commands. All of then are in the ETsi document.

Best Regards,
Sir Graham

shopen · 02-27-2003, 03:10

I don't need commands reference... I need exchage protocol... For Example how phone detects operator menu on card? How card tell ME about op. menu structure? Log from SIM<->ME.

SirGraham · 02-27-2003, 09:25

Hi shopen,

Quote:

I don't need commands reference... I need exchage protocol... For Example how phone detects operator menu on card?

I don´t know all about STK, but I think the Commands reference is the protocol. The SIM works by events (APDU commands) when the phone send a command the SIM answer. If the phone don´t send commands the SIM don´t make things.....

Perhaps, SIMEMU can answer better...

Best Regards,
Sir Graham.

shopen · 02-27-2003, 10:28

What sequence of commands send ME into SIM to set up menu, and get menu items from SIM?

simemu · 02-27-2003, 19:42

All about this information is in the GSM 11.14 and 11.11. Find them in ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/Specs/

There, you will find all the dialog between ME and SIM to setup menu and more..

Regards

hex · 02-27-2003, 20:36

@Simemu
@Sir Graham

The very large thank! For the given information

Best Regards
Hex

02-26-2003, 01:01	#1 (permalink)
hex Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ukraine Age: 45 Posts: 12 Member: 19894 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Question to knowing.2 Time of switching SIMEMU5 from number on number within the limits of one operator is equal 3-4 seconds. 1 = If to switch by its program, whether it is possible to use 2 numbers simultaneously? 2 = it is possible how or to disconnect a team which sends the telephone at an exit from a network? That at an input to not be registered again. I am sorry for bad English.

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shopen Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Russia Age: 36 Posts: 8 Member: 21851 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	2 sirGraham Hi sir! Can you tell me more about STK. Or maybe you have documentation about it? Not GSM 11.14...

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shopen Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Russia Age: 36 Posts: 8 Member: 21851 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	2 sirGraham I don't need commands reference... I need exchage protocol... For Example how phone detects operator menu on card? How card tell ME about op. menu structure? Log from SIM<->ME.

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shopen Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Russia Age: 36 Posts: 8 Member: 21851 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	2 sirGraham What sequence of commands send ME into SIM to set up menu, and get menu items from SIM?

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02-26-2003, 09:06	#2 (permalink)
SirGraham No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 630 Member: 15073 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Hi Hex, This limit depens of the phone. With one T68i is very fast, but with other have more problems to make the REFRESH STK command. Other problem is the SIM make thing when received a command. It´s works with events. Menu STK. Received commad, SMS,ect... He haven´t got a timer or other mecanish to activate commands every x seconds... Other problem more: The connect and disconect of BTS (operator) consume more battery.... Best Regads, Sir Graham.

02-26-2003, 13:59	#4 (permalink)
SirGraham No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 630 Member: 15073 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Hi shopen, There isn´t more commands. All of then are in the ETsi document. Best Regards, Sir Graham

02-27-2003, 19:42	#8 (permalink)
simemu No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Spain Age: 51 Posts: 858 Member: 10582 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 95 Times in 35 Posts	All about this information is in the GSM 11.14 and 11.11. Find them in ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/Specs/ There, you will find all the dialog between ME and SIM to setup menu and more.. Regards

02-27-2003, 20:36	#9 (permalink)
hex Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ukraine Age: 45 Posts: 12 Member: 19894 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	@Simemu @Sir Graham The very large thank! For the given information Best Regards Hex

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