sim clone problem!!! pls hlp me - GSM-Forum

gsm-lord · 03-01-2002, 16:50

hi to all:
i am newbie in sim clone.
i have problem with sim scan soft. when i run sim scan soft then f5 for getting ki and imsi after par2.bin created then choose f2 for getting ki and imsi . now program want address?????
choose default or no?????
or can i clone gsm sim by other way?
any1 have windows base soft for getting ki and imsi???
can any1 hlp me?

Alf · 03-02-2002, 03:58

Just use something like F000 has the limit.

Do not use Windows based programs as they brute-force the card and will damage it permanently...

gsm-lord · 03-02-2002, 14:25

to alf:
thx u for reply. but i have problem
after use f2 for getting ki and imsi . sw found 8 bite but i wait for 36 hours for other 8 bite .sw cant find other 8 bite until now.
now i use founction f3 or???????
pls hlp me

Alf · 03-02-2002, 20:14

@gsmlord:

How fast is the CPU?

You only found 8 bytes? Has the limit been reached?

Which limit did you set?

Does the card still work on a phone?

gsm-lord · 03-02-2002, 20:37

my system procesor is pentium 500 full cache with 256 memory.
and my sim card work fine now!!!!!
1. i run sim scan sw and f5 for getting ki and imsi
2. press f2 for normal
3.sw want for address i choose defualt f8000
4. after 36 hour sw found 8 byte and work for another 8 bite of ki !!!!!!!
pls tell me step by step solution for getting ki and imsi.
thx u alf and other people

Alf · 03-05-2002, 07:18

Hmmm... that's very very weird... what's your operator?

Have you tried restarting the process and see what happens? If it does find the first 8 bytes again it's a mistery to me... If it does not find anything maybe the card deleted the KI and you're still using your Kc and that's why the card still works (but not for long)... somebody correct me if I am wrong...

Using a 3.57 crystal sim_scan should get the first 12 bytes of the KI in about 5 hours... the rest depends on CPU speed.

gsm-lord · 03-06-2002, 16:39

finally i read ki and imsi from my sim.
thx to alf and other people.
but i have problem now!!!1
i have sim reader from gsm-technology but i cant program gold card with this sw?
can any1 give me solution???

Alf · 03-06-2002, 18:44

A sim reader by itself won't program your card.

You need to get a jdm/ludipipo programmer for the PIC and a phoenix/smarmouse for the external eeprom.

Your sim reader is of the second type, I believe...

Check other posts. I posted a link from which you can build a programmer for your PIC. Just get the card schematic and connect the proper wires to the corresponding ones on the card.

If you're more comfortable about buying a build one I believe our sponsor sells dual (ludipipo/phoenix_smartmouse) programmers.

dejang · 03-07-2002, 08:45

When I set limit to F000 (and the card limit is FFFF), then I can query my card for 0FFF times more (if all the F000 were done, of course).

What does that mean? I can turn my phone on FFF times, cause every authentication counts, right? Also, how many times operator authenticate my card -- only when I log to network or more?

Alf · 03-12-2002, 08:27

Depends on how many times KI has been ran before...

When KI is ran depends from operator to operator...

Some do it at registration... others do it more often... some less often...

03-01-2002, 16:50	#1 (permalink)
gsm-lord Cheater -Don't Deal with him- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: IRAN Age: 49 Posts: 557 Member: 7250 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1575042 Thanks Meter: 440	sim clone problem!!! pls hlp me hi to all: i am newbie in sim clone. i have problem with sim scan soft. when i run sim scan soft then f5 for getting ki and imsi after par2.bin created then choose f2 for getting ki and imsi . now program want address????? choose default or no????? or can i clone gsm sim by other way? any1 have windows base soft for getting ki and imsi??? can any1 hlp me?

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03-02-2002, 03:58	#2 (permalink)
Alf No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portugal Age: 49 Posts: 692 Member: 6156 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	Just use something like F000 has the limit. Do not use Windows based programs as they brute-force the card and will damage it permanently...

03-02-2002, 14:25	#3 (permalink)
gsm-lord Cheater -Don't Deal with him- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: IRAN Age: 49 Posts: 557 Member: 7250 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1575042 Thanks Meter: 440	to alf: thx u for reply. but i have problem after use f2 for getting ki and imsi . sw found 8 bite but i wait for 36 hours for other 8 bite .sw cant find other 8 bite until now. now i use founction f3 or??????? pls hlp me

03-02-2002, 20:14	#4 (permalink)
Alf No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portugal Age: 49 Posts: 692 Member: 6156 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	@gsmlord: How fast is the CPU? You only found 8 bytes? Has the limit been reached? Which limit did you set? Does the card still work on a phone?

03-02-2002, 20:37	#5 (permalink)
gsm-lord Cheater -Don't Deal with him- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: IRAN Age: 49 Posts: 557 Member: 7250 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1575042 Thanks Meter: 440	my system procesor is pentium 500 full cache with 256 memory. and my sim card work fine now!!!!! 1. i run sim scan sw and f5 for getting ki and imsi 2. press f2 for normal 3.sw want for address i choose defualt f8000 4. after 36 hour sw found 8 byte and work for another 8 bite of ki !!!!!!! pls tell me step by step solution for getting ki and imsi. thx u alf and other people

03-05-2002, 07:18	#6 (permalink)
Alf No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portugal Age: 49 Posts: 692 Member: 6156 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	Hmmm... that's very very weird... what's your operator? Have you tried restarting the process and see what happens? If it does find the first 8 bytes again it's a mistery to me... If it does not find anything maybe the card deleted the KI and you're still using your Kc and that's why the card still works (but not for long)... somebody correct me if I am wrong... Using a 3.57 crystal sim_scan should get the first 12 bytes of the KI in about 5 hours... the rest depends on CPU speed.

03-06-2002, 16:39	#7 (permalink)
gsm-lord Cheater -Don't Deal with him- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: IRAN Age: 49 Posts: 557 Member: 7250 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1575042 Thanks Meter: 440	finally i read ki and imsi from my sim. thx to alf and other people. but i have problem now!!!1 i have sim reader from gsm-technology but i cant program gold card with this sw? can any1 give me solution???

03-06-2002, 18:44	#8 (permalink)
Alf No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portugal Age: 49 Posts: 692 Member: 6156 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	A sim reader by itself won't program your card. You need to get a jdm/ludipipo programmer for the PIC and a phoenix/smarmouse for the external eeprom. Your sim reader is of the second type, I believe... Check other posts. I posted a link from which you can build a programmer for your PIC. Just get the card schematic and connect the proper wires to the corresponding ones on the card. If you're more comfortable about buying a build one I believe our sponsor sells dual (ludipipo/phoenix_smartmouse) programmers.

03-07-2002, 08:45	#9 (permalink)
dejang Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Yu Posts: 18 Member: 9463 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	When I set limit to F000 (and the card limit is FFFF), then I can query my card for 0FFF times more (if all the F000 were done, of course). What does that mean? I can turn my phone on FFF times, cause every authentication counts, right? Also, how many times operator authenticate my card -- only when I log to network or more?

03-12-2002, 08:27	#10 (permalink)
Alf No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portugal Age: 49 Posts: 692 Member: 6156 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	Depends on how many times KI has been ran before... When KI is ran depends from operator to operator... Some do it at registration... others do it more often... some less often...