SIM ID Cloning (looking for a card manufacturer) - GSM-Forum

RonS · 01-05-2008, 10:37

Hi,

I would like to be able to create a substitute card by writing the ICCID and IMSI values to an "access card". This is not a cloned SIM just its ID is cloned to trick the phone (not the network) to think its the original SIM.

Any idea, what company manufactures such access sim cards.

Thanks
RonS

masumdhaka · 01-05-2008, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonS

Hi,

I would like to be able to create a substitute card by writing the ICCID and IMSI values to an "access card". This is not a cloned SIM just its ID is cloned to trick the phone (not the network) to think its the original SIM.

Any idea, what company manufactures such access sim cards.

Thanks
RonS

Thanks U r Genius,
What Do U Mean by IMSI Values? If This is IMSI Number u Could not access any opertor sevice proveder in this world.
If U Got The IMSI Key Code,Was This Comp128V1 Card or Comp128V2/3,
If Comp128V2/3 Then U Explain How U Got This?
If U Couldnot Explain this,
You R A Great Gen-I-us!

Kevbodian · 01-19-2008, 05:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by masumdhaka

Thanks U r Genius,
What Do U Mean by IMSI Values? If This is IMSI Number u Could not access any opertor sevice proveder in this world.
If U Got The IMSI Key Code,Was This Comp128V1 Card or Comp128V2/3,
If Comp128V2/3 Then U Explain How U Got This?
If U Couldnot Explain this,
You R A Great Gen-I-us!

He is ASKING not SAYING.

doc_j · 01-19-2008, 11:09

Can this be done for real? For Example: We have one SE K850i, locked to Vodafone, but we want to use it in Orange network. Because I don't know somebody to unlock it, can I make my Orange SIM card to be recognized as Vodaphone by the mobile, but still to work in the Orange network?

Casssimir · 01-23-2008, 09:58

use TurboSim for exemple... it s working on some models

masumdhaka · 01-29-2008, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevbodian

He is ASKING not SAYING.

Sorry Friend,
But He is Looking For Simcard Manufacturer Do U Think That,what a genius he is??????????????

doc_j · 01-31-2008, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by masumdhaka

Sorry Friend,
But He is Looking For Simcard Manufacturer Do U Think That,what a genius he is??????????????

I don't think that he said: "I'm genius". No one of us, the people in this forum that asks a questions, is genius....

masumdhaka · 01-31-2008, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by doc_j

I don't think that he said: "I'm genius". No one of us, the people in this forum that asks a questions, is genius....

Sorry Friend! I didnt meant that!
He is looking for card manufacturer.My question is there? instead of learning knowledge.what he do with card manufacturer?sorry this is off topics.

doc_j · 02-01-2008, 21:02

May be he's gonna make his own X-Sim ot TurboSIM and is lookin for manufacurer for his SIM cards for begining business

Just a joke, may be he just want to know, there is noting bad to know some things....

masumdhaka · 02-02-2008, 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by doc_j

May be he's gonna make his own X-Sim ot TurboSIM and is lookin for manufacurer for his SIM cards for begining business

Just a joke, may be he just want to know, there is noting bad to know some things....

I agree with you.
Thanks For Reallize me

RonS · 03-11-2008, 07:46

Hi,

I want to clarify my need.
I need to be able to create a backup card from the original SIM card that has the same ICCDI and IMSI. This should be dummy SIM card that will not connect to the network.

I am looking for SIM card manufacturers such as GemPlus (they have a SIM Backup card) that will allow me "write access" to most files on the backup card so I will be able to update the ICCID and IMSI and other files (ICCID and IMSI files are read only in standard cards).

Please see a sample use case for this need:
I need to read data from a mobile phone without connecting to the mobile network.
The original SIM card is available, but I want to read the mobile phone without any connection to the mobile network. The reason for that is to avoid incoming calls or text messages to the mobile phone during the read process.
I want to use the backup card to create a SIM card that allows reading phone data during radio silence and without destroying the call list (when the phone detects a new SIM card it erases call logs and SMS messages and this is something I want to avoid).

Regards,
RonS

masumdhaka · 03-11-2008, 21:49

Dear Sir,
we r sorry.
We realize ur story.Dont Lie,If u try to a network locked handset to missdirect IMSI & ICCID Copy with a blank IMSI ki code & open it then change the operator & use ur other simcard,then we say u can try!

Reknowned Simcard Company dont create anything that u want.u can try magicsim a chinese or taiwanies company.

Remember one thing life is very easy,dont try to create it hard.

we r easy going say clearly

RonS · 03-15-2008, 20:23

Dear Sir,

If you do not understand the question you can ask for clarifications but don't answer and call someone a liar.

I wrote a detailed explanation what I need and answers like yours prevent someone that maybe does have a knowlegable answer from providing it. So please, stop thinking that you know everything.

Please see this product link:
http://www.msab.com/en/Products/XRY-Field-Version/

I need a SIM dummy card that will allow me the same functionality (be able to copy a SIM ID - without Ki and other network related fields).

Thanks,
RonS

masumdhaka · 03-17-2008, 01:49

Dear Rons,

How R U Today??????
I Visited The Link U Send.A Swedish Company Making Some Item like,Sim ID-Cloner For Criminal Forensic Expert & General User For Checking Call List,Contacts ETC.Very Very backdated things.

As My Known I Gave U The Solution With Magic Sim which can copy ICC ID & IMSI No with blank KI.

What U Did & Do that is ur problem.
But a general people dont need such a thing u want.

U Didnt look for the Solutions.U r trying advertise the above link.If u r not the agent of them then i m sorry!

01-05-2008, 10:37	#1 (permalink)
RonS Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Israel Age: 41 Posts: 32 Member: 12397 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	SIM ID Cloning (looking for a card manufacturer) Hi, I would like to be able to create a substitute card by writing the ICCID and IMSI values to an "access card". This is not a cloned SIM just its ID is cloned to trick the phone (not the network) to think its the original SIM. Any idea, what company manufactures such access sim cards. Thanks RonS

03-11-2008, 21:49	#12 (permalink)
masumdhaka Freak Poster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bangladesh Age: 42 Posts: 139 Member: 179960 Status: Offline Thanks: 8 Thanked 26 Times in 16 Posts	Please Dont Lies Dear Sir, we r sorry. We realize ur story.Dont Lie,If u try to a network locked handset to missdirect IMSI & ICCID Copy with a blank IMSI ki code & open it then change the operator & use ur other simcard,then we say u can try! Reknowned Simcard Company dont create anything that u want.u can try magicsim a chinese or taiwanies company. Remember one thing life is very easy,dont try to create it hard. we r easy going say clearly

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doc_j Crazy Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Age: 27 Posts: 55 Member: 328655 Status: Offline Thanks: 13 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Can this be done for real? For Example: We have one SE K850i, locked to Vodafone, but we want to use it in Orange network. Because I don't know somebody to unlock it, can I make my Orange SIM card to be recognized as Vodaphone by the mobile, but still to work in the Orange network?

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Casssimir Insane Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Geneve Swiss Posts: 75 Member: 332947 Status: Offline Thanks: 1 Thanked 11 Times in 1 Post	use TurboSim for exemple... it s working on some models

02-01-2008, 21:02	#9 (permalink)
doc_j Crazy Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Age: 27 Posts: 55 Member: 328655 Status: Offline Thanks: 13 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	May be he's gonna make his own X-Sim ot TurboSIM and is lookin for manufacurer for his SIM cards for begining business Just a joke, may be he just want to know, there is noting bad to know some things....

03-11-2008, 07:46	#11 (permalink)
RonS Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Israel Age: 41 Posts: 32 Member: 12397 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi, I want to clarify my need. I need to be able to create a backup card from the original SIM card that has the same ICCDI and IMSI. This should be dummy SIM card that will not connect to the network. I am looking for SIM card manufacturers such as GemPlus (they have a SIM Backup card) that will allow me "write access" to most files on the backup card so I will be able to update the ICCID and IMSI and other files (ICCID and IMSI files are read only in standard cards). Please see a sample use case for this need: I need to read data from a mobile phone without connecting to the mobile network. The original SIM card is available, but I want to read the mobile phone without any connection to the mobile network. The reason for that is to avoid incoming calls or text messages to the mobile phone during the read process. I want to use the backup card to create a SIM card that allows reading phone data during radio silence and without destroying the call list (when the phone detects a new SIM card it erases call logs and SMS messages and this is something I want to avoid). Regards, RonS

03-15-2008, 20:23	#13 (permalink)
RonS Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Israel Age: 41 Posts: 32 Member: 12397 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dear Sir, If you do not understand the question you can ask for clarifications but don't answer and call someone a liar. I wrote a detailed explanation what I need and answers like yours prevent someone that maybe does have a knowlegable answer from providing it. So please, stop thinking that you know everything. Please see this product link: http://www.msab.com/en/Products/XRY-Field-Version/ I need a SIM dummy card that will allow me the same functionality (be able to copy a SIM ID - without Ki and other network related fields). Thanks, RonS

03-17-2008, 01:49	#14 (permalink)
masumdhaka Freak Poster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bangladesh Age: 42 Posts: 139 Member: 179960 Status: Offline Thanks: 8 Thanked 26 Times in 16 Posts	Dear Rons, How R U Today?????? I Visited The Link U Send.A Swedish Company Making Some Item like,Sim ID-Cloner For Criminal Forensic Expert & General User For Checking Call List,Contacts ETC.Very Very backdated things. As My Known I Gave U The Solution With Magic Sim which can copy ICC ID & IMSI No with blank KI. What U Did & Do that is ur problem. But a general people dont need such a thing u want. U Didnt look for the Solutions.U r trying advertise the above link.If u r not the agent of them then i m sorry!