To Simemu: some assistance, please - GSM-Forum

samspade · 11-07-2002, 17:43

Just some clarification. I own a greencard and I want to program it in Italian with my smartmouse/phoenix

device (Device is set at 6 Mhz, on Phoenix and has external power supply). According to your tutorial (and using Ic-prog 1.05) I should upload first the just released italian flash SIM_EMU_FL_5.00_IT.hex on the 16F877, right? Then on the 24C128 I upload the eemprom SIM_EMU_EP_5.00.hex. What about the SIM_EMU_EP_5.00_PT.hex? Is this a *localized* eeprom file? I don't need it, do I?
(Instead should I use a silvercard I upload the SEF50sIT.hex file on the 16F876 and on the 24C64 the SEE50s.hex).
Is that right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
About ic-prog. Under "Settings" I can choose "Smartcard (phoenix)" and don't have to bother about it

anymore, but under "Hardware" I don't find the Smartmouse(phoenix) programmer. Shall I leave "JDM

Programmer" or I need to choose another interface?
How can I tell if the greencard I've got has PIC 16F877 or 876?
I started programming but, having set "verify while programming" I immediately get: PROGRAMMING FAILED

AT CODE ADDRESS 0000h. I get the same at the end if I set "verify after programming".
I badly need some help.
Thanks for your reply.
Mik

MeMoCan · 11-07-2002, 23:58

you have to write on 3.58mhz
pic 877 or 876 does not matter.
phonex mode is in settings file menu. not in options or hardware menu.

while you are programming pic (first) you have to set your programmer to picprog mode.

after finished programing pic, than you have to set 3.58mhz phonex mode. and belonging you card type, select 24c64 or 128
than write it.

i-l-q-e-r · 11-08-2002, 00:35

hi @samspade
cardwriter1.87 => pic => 16f87x-24c6x
http://www.betasat.net/download/cardw187.zip

hi @memocan
please contact me.

http://www.gsmclone.8k.com/

samspade · 11-08-2002, 09:23

Quote:

Originally posted by MeMoCan
you have to write on 3.58mhz
pic 877 or 876 does not matter.
phonex mode is in settings file menu. not in options or hardware menu.

while you are programming pic (first) you have to set your programmer to picprog mode.

after finished programing pic, than you have to set 3.58mhz phonex mode. and belonging you card type, select 24c64 or 128
than write it.

Thanks MeMoCan, that's basically what I had done. The point is that I run into a well known error with ic-prog, which is "program failed ad code address 0000h". It seems this is a recurrent issue. (there is even a faq included in the program help concernig it). I also read all posts at www.ic-prog.com but didn't manage to fix such problem so far. I tried on win98 and win2k. nothing. I'll try buying a pin-to-pin M/F extension cable (mine is home-made) but I'm not 100% sure it will work

samspade · 11-08-2002, 09:25

Quote:

Originally posted by i-l-q-e-r
hi @samspade
cardwriter1.87 => pic => 16f87x-24c6x
http://www.betasat.net/download/cardw187.zip

hi @memocan
please contact me.

http://www.gsmclone.8k.com/

I will try your suggested program. Will let you know.

samspade · 11-08-2002, 09:40

hi i-l-q-e-r

I've just tried your CardWriter 1.87. Guess what? I had the very same error quoted in my previous post. Plus I realized that the program is *not* meant for eeprom 24c128 (which is in my greencard :-(

sheLLtox · 11-08-2002, 10:39

PROGRAMMING FAILED AT CODE ADDRESS 0000h it's a hardware problem.

I also have it, but solve it. I post in ic-prog message board what work with me

A suggestion..try another PC (I found my error because my programmer don't show error in another PC)

wojtek · 11-08-2002, 11:05

Phoenix is only for programming EEprom.
For PIC is other - JDM-ISO or compatible.
Regards

samspade · 11-08-2002, 16:12

Quote:

Originally posted by wojtek
Phoenix is only for programming EEprom.
For PIC is other - JDM-ISO or compatible.
Regards

Hello wojtek and thanks for replying. My interface is Phoenix/smartmouse and from simemu's tutorial it seems I may program pic and eeprom with just this device!!!! You mean I should build another interface (JDM-ISO)?

samspade · 11-08-2002, 16:16

Quote:

Originally posted by sheLLtox
PROGRAMMING FAILED AT CODE ADDRESS 0000h it's a hardware problem.

I also have it, but solve it. I post in ic-prog message board what work with me

A suggestion..try another PC (I found my error because my programmer don't show error in another PC)

Hello SheLLtox, thanks for your suggestion. I already had tried another pc with win98, but got the same result. I'll go through the posts in the ic-prog message board again and see if I can find some more hints.

Biggy124 · 11-08-2002, 17:39

Quote:

Originally posted by samspade
....from simemu's tutorial it seems I may program pic and eeprom with just this device!!!!

This is impossible!! If you want to program a pic (876/7), you need a pic programmer (Jdm, Ludipipo, card-maestro, ecc.)

Bye

simemu · 11-08-2002, 19:34

Quote:

Originally posted by samspade
Just some clarification. I own a greencard and I want to program it in Italian with my smartmouse/phoenix

device (Device is set at 6 Mhz, on Phoenix and has external power supply). According to your tutorial (and using Ic-prog 1.05) I should upload first the just released italian flash SIM_EMU_FL_5.00_IT.hex on the 16F876/7, right? Then on the 24C128 I upload the eemprom SIM_EMU_EP_5.00.hex. What about the SIM_EMU_EP_5.00_PT.hex? Is this a *localized* eeprom file? I don't need it, do I?
(Instead should I use a silvercard I upload the SEF50sIT.hex file on the 16F876/7 and on the 24C64 the SEE50s.hex).
Is that right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
About ic-prog. Under "Settings" I can choose "Smartcard (phoenix)" and don't have to bother about it

anymore, but under "Hardware" I don't find the Smartmouse(phoenix) programmer. Shall I leave "JDM

Programmer" or I need to choose another interface?
How can I tell if the greencard I've got has PIC 16F877 or 876?
I started programming but, having set "verify while programming" I immediately get: PROGRAMMING FAILED

AT CODE ADDRESS 0000h. I get the same at the end if I set "verify after programming".
I badly need some help.
Thanks for your reply.
Mik

You must write the flash file SIM_EMU_FL_5.00_IT.hex on the 16F877 using TE-20 (JDM programmer)
Then on the 24C128 (GreenCard) you must write the eeprom file SIM_EMU_EP_5.00.hex using a Phonix programer.
The SIM_EMU_EP_5.00_PT.hex is a *localized* eeprom file for Portugal and then you don't need it.
On a SilverCard you must write the SEF50sIT.hex file on the 16F876 and the SEE50s.hex on the 24C64.
In the EEPROM writing, you don't have to bother about Programmer type, you can let the JDM, you must select Multimac protocol and the correct crystal speed and select Smartcard too. See my pages.

The 16F876 and 16F877 are the same at the time of programming, for this, it is indiferent this type of selection.

Regards

samspade · 11-08-2002, 20:35

One more thing. I'm using a Ludipipo to program the Pic and the smartmouse/phoenix for the eeprom. Do I need a loader on the 16F877 to program the eeprom? Or it's not necessary? That's because when I tried programming the eprom (after a successful pic programming), ic prog answered "reset failed" or something like that and aborted the eprom programming.

simemu · 11-08-2002, 20:49

If you are sure that the SIM-EMU flash is correctly written, try with an external loader. If it works, then write the SIM-EMU flash again.

The external loader founded in Internet, uses the same protocol as SIM-EMU (Multimac), but if it works, probably a timing problem exits between COM-Phoenix-SIM-EMU.

Good luck

samspade · 11-08-2002, 20:55

Thanks a lot Daniel for helping. At the moment I've found loaders for Gold and Silver cards not for green. The loader for Silver supports 16F876+24C64. Do you think it may work or I must find the loader for green cards absolutely? if you got a link please post it or p.m. me.
Thanks again.

11-07-2002, 17:43	#1 (permalink)
samspade Crazy Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 59 Member: 17439 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	To Simemu: some assistance, please Just some clarification. I own a greencard and I want to program it in Italian with my smartmouse/phoenix device (Device is set at 6 Mhz, on Phoenix and has external power supply). According to your tutorial (and using Ic-prog 1.05) I should upload first the just released italian flash SIM_EMU_FL_5.00_IT.hex on the 16F877, right? Then on the 24C128 I upload the eemprom SIM_EMU_EP_5.00.hex. What about the SIM_EMU_EP_5.00_PT.hex? Is this a localized eeprom file? I don't need it, do I? (Instead should I use a silvercard I upload the SEF50sIT.hex file on the 16F876 and on the 24C64 the SEE50s.hex). Is that right? Please correct me if I'm wrong. About ic-prog. Under "Settings" I can choose "Smartcard (phoenix)" and don't have to bother about it anymore, but under "Hardware" I don't find the Smartmouse(phoenix) programmer. Shall I leave "JDM Programmer" or I need to choose another interface? How can I tell if the greencard I've got has PIC 16F877 or 876? I started programming but, having set "verify while programming" I immediately get: PROGRAMMING FAILED AT CODE ADDRESS 0000h. I get the same at the end if I set "verify after programming". I badly need some help. Thanks for your reply. Mik

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11-07-2002, 23:58	#2 (permalink)
MeMoCan Freak Poster Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 198 Member: 16493 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	you have to write on 3.58mhz pic 877 or 876 does not matter. phonex mode is in settings file menu. not in options or hardware menu. while you are programming pic (first) you have to set your programmer to picprog mode. after finished programing pic, than you have to set 3.58mhz phonex mode. and belonging you card type, select 24c64 or 128 than write it.

11-08-2002, 00:35	#3 (permalink)
i-l-q-e-r Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: istanbul Age: 44 Posts: 3 Member: 17565 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	hi @samspade cardwriter1.87 => pic => 16f87x-24c6x http://www.betasat.net/download/cardw187.zip hi @memocan please contact me. http://www.gsmclone.8k.com/

11-08-2002, 09:40	#6 (permalink)
samspade Crazy Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 59 Member: 17439 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	hi i-l-q-e-r I've just tried your CardWriter 1.87. Guess what? I had the very same error quoted in my previous post. Plus I realized that the program is not meant for eeprom 24c128 (which is in my greencard :-(

11-08-2002, 10:39	#7 (permalink)
sheLLtox Insane Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portugal Age: 49 Posts: 67 Member: 15295 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	PROGRAMMING FAILED AT CODE ADDRESS 0000h it's a hardware problem. I also have it, but solve it. I post in ic-prog message board what work with me A suggestion..try another PC (I found my error because my programmer don't show error in another PC)

11-08-2002, 11:05	#8 (permalink)
wojtek Freak Poster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: poland Posts: 149 Member: 8801 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Phoenix is only for programming EEprom. For PIC is other - JDM-ISO or compatible. Regards

11-08-2002, 20:35	#13 (permalink)
samspade Crazy Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 59 Member: 17439 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	One more thing. I'm using a Ludipipo to program the Pic and the smartmouse/phoenix for the eeprom. Do I need a loader on the 16F877 to program the eeprom? Or it's not necessary? That's because when I tried programming the eprom (after a successful pic programming), ic prog answered "reset failed" or something like that and aborted the eprom programming.

11-08-2002, 20:49	#14 (permalink)
simemu No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Spain Age: 62 Posts: 855 Member: 10582 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 99	If you are sure that the SIM-EMU flash is correctly written, try with an external loader. If it works, then write the SIM-EMU flash again. The external loader founded in Internet, uses the same protocol as SIM-EMU (Multimac), but if it works, probably a timing problem exits between COM-Phoenix-SIM-EMU. Good luck

11-08-2002, 20:55	#15 (permalink)
samspade Crazy Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 59 Member: 17439 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Thanks a lot Daniel for helping. At the moment I've found loaders for Gold and Silver cards not for green. The loader for Silver supports 16F876+24C64. Do you think it may work or I must find the loader for green cards absolutely? if you got a link please post it or p.m. me. Thanks again.