will phoenix?

[::Yasir::]

I have phoenix! will it program pic? or do i need other hardware?

[uaepast]

Hi,

Its enough, u can program everything with phoenix, just use the proper software for it.

Regards,
uaepast

[::Yasir::]

which software are best?

[SuPeR_PoPeY]

program pic with phoenix????? only your phoenix can program a pic, mine can´t program pic´s, it only program eeprom

[uaepast]

what you are up to?
what do you want to do exactly?
what do u want to program?
for what aim? TV CODES, SIM CLONING..etc
generaly pic& eeprom can be programed by any phoneix. for gold cards, silver, green1&2 and more..etc

try a software Twoprog.

regards,
uaepast

[::Yasir::]

Ya. that's what i want to do: sim cloning, TV,etc...

[Eurocrypt]

You can NOT use a simple Phoenix to
Write Pic-Processors,
exactly as Super Popey says .....

You need some more advanced thing to do Pic's.
Most modern programmers can handle it.

[uaepast]

then your phoneix is good enough to program whatever you need. just download twoprog to deal with tv codes, for fun cards, silver, gold and etc
and download sim editor, cardinal, xsim, simscan etc for cloning simcards and so.

regards,
uaepast

[SuPeR_PoPeY]

@uaepast
do you know what you are saying??? it can program pic´s???
it´s better to don´t write anything becausa all you said it´s wrong!!!

to tv cards you can use phoenix to send commands to some original cards, but only with phoenix you can´t program funcards, silver cards... only their eeproms!!!!!!!
to funcards you can buy a apollo, it program all the funcard, it will depend of the sistem used by tv, in my country we can use many cards to emulate the original card, but in your country i don´t know which card you can have to see free tv

to clone phone cards you have to had a phoenix and a jdm for example, phoenix to read original cards and to write eeprom in clone cards and jdm to program the pics of clone cards

[uaepast]

i mean by programming pic's is to send pic.hex file to any card, i thought that what he needs! well its the same when u want to send eeprom.hex file to any card, all you need is a phoneix programer , read and write, and a proper software to deal with each kind of cards!

so what is mean by programming " pic" generaly?? tell me, coz thats what i understand!
and i've been dealing with many kind of programmers" readers and writers" for more than 3 years, with TV systems and Phone SimCards, so i knwo that you would either need phoneix to read an write cards info, or sometimes you can use specaill kind of programmers such as " simmax, sim doctor, sim magic ...etc" to deal with gsm cards which has got its own software and system to deal with special kind of cloing cards!

by the way, i read my gsm cards : ki, imsi: by multiprogrammer 2001xl, old one ha!
and with the same reader i used to program" or whatever u call it" pic and eeprom since ppl used to use goldcard, silver, and now they mostly use funcards or platinumcards and jupetir..etc

but as for now, for me, i dont program cards, coz i have the most powerful decoder" dreambox 7000s" and i can watch whatever available and broken codes all over the world" irdeto1,seca1,viaccess1, nagravision, betacrypt, cryptworks and more..etc"
plus the sharing systems, which i started to learn how to build up m y own server of channels to share to public!! over internet, and there r many servers availble for about a year almost now!

anyhow, thats what i know and do, and forgive my little experience and little english dear.

forgive me all if i write any information by mistake , which i may not understand as someone says!!

regards,
uaepast

[::Yasir::]

Hi. your reply is very interesting!!! can you send me your hex files you burnt so that you can watch all these channels???

[bibloks]

netdragon, its easy...if you want info regarding satellite world just make search in google with alsat forum, register there and ask what youe interested and you'll se people helping imediately

There are lots of files for diferent cards etc etc ..... but here we are for sim stuff but it seams that I cant get any help at least till now

cheers

bibloks

[Eurocrypt]

You said it Yourself uaepast,

"multiprogrammer 2001xl"

This progger is NOT !!!!! a Phoenix interface..

It has Phoenix capabilities ,
but can also write Pic-Atmel's and so on.

multiprogrammer 2001xl is a FULL progger.

A common Phoenix is a cheap piece and can only
write/Send Data to a card through Software inside a Flash (Pic/Atmel)

A phoenix "Comunicates" with Flash inside a card.

This means a Loader must be present in Flash
to make it possible for Phoenix to send data to Card(EEprom)

When You know this, It is clear a Pic/Atmel "FLASH"
can not be written with a Simple Phoenix.

/Euro

[uaepast]

hiaa,

you are the man of plans eurocrypt

lool, well i know this by experience mate, and thank you very much to explane it to me, coz i never studied such things, its just a hoppy that i like, and for sure i dont understand much of it till now.

i appreceiate you comments mate,
i wish it may hlep some other people too.

regards,
uaepast

[::Yasir::]

Well guys thanks 4 replying. well, where do i find schematics for various smart card programmers??? infinity, etc???