Audi A3 2005 VDO Dash 93C86 dump help - Page 2 - GSM-Forum

**shooting@orange** · 01-14-2017, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by piehole1983

Sadly that pin did not work

Then your dash is too new for calc, take it to dealer for pin

wbr

piehole1983 · 01-14-2017, 18:34

Dealer will not give out PIN to anyone these days, not even they see the pin.

Dash is dated 31st May 2005

**shooting@orange** · 01-14-2017, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by piehole1983

Dash is dated 31st May 2005

I can't magic a pin, need to consult dealer for pin

wbr

piehole1983 · 01-14-2017, 18:42

I know that, I'm simply telling you they do not give out pins any more. Any dealer cluster work/swapping is completed online connected to VAG servers in Germany.

Thank you for your help so far.

**shooting@orange** · 01-14-2017, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by piehole1983

I know that, I'm simply telling you they do not give out pins any more. Any dealer cluster work/swapping is completed online connected to VAG servers in Germany.

Thank you for your help so far.

Any Official VAG dealer can get this for you

wbr

piehole1983 · 01-14-2017, 20:50

I'll give them a call on Monday to see if they give the pins out but from the Audi forums I'd have to bring the car to them and let them do the work as the workshops don't even "see" the pins themselves. Kinda defeats the purpose in my case, it's all about learning

**shooting@orange** · 01-14-2017, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by piehole1983

I'll give them a call on Monday to see if they give the pins out but from the Audi forums I'd have to bring the car to them and let them do the work as the workshops don't even "see" the pins themselves. Kinda defeats the purpose in my case, it's all about learning

Sometimes you have to pay...

wbr

piehole1983 · 01-14-2017, 22:13

Yeah I don't mind paying, wait to see what they say!

piehole1983 · 01-16-2017, 23:30

As I suspected, Audi cannot and will not give out the PIN or SKC as they put it. They haven't done for years. The car has to be connected to their system which does everything whilst never showing the code to the techs.

**shooting@orange** · 01-17-2017, 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by piehole1983

As I suspected, Audi cannot and will not give out the PIN or SKC as they put it. They haven't done for years. The car has to be connected to their system which does everything whilst never showing the code to the techs.

As I said, only the dealer can help you.

wbr

piehole1983 · 01-19-2017, 11:16

I'm not sure its even worth the hassle any more. Do you think the pin might actually be store elsewhere on these clusters? This one has the two Fujitsu MCUs on board.

piehole1983 · 01-19-2017, 23:36

Update to this:

With some help from Carprog giving me a beta of their software to try, the pin is 21579. I was able to read it via OBD using their hardware in a few seconds. Afterwards I logged in using VCDS and can confirm the pin as correct. Maybe some of you can use this working pin and my dump files to see where the pin is derived from.

Thank you to those who tried to help, it's very much appreciated.

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01-14-2017, 18:42	#19 (permalink)
piehole1983 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Belfast Posts: 21 Member: 2562417 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I know that, I'm simply telling you they do not give out pins any more. Any dealer cluster work/swapping is completed online connected to VAG servers in Germany. Thank you for your help so far.

01-14-2017, 20:50	#21 (permalink)
piehole1983 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Belfast Posts: 21 Member: 2562417 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I'll give them a call on Monday to see if they give the pins out but from the Audi forums I'd have to bring the car to them and let them do the work as the workshops don't even "see" the pins themselves. Kinda defeats the purpose in my case, it's all about learning

01-14-2017, 22:13	#23 (permalink)
piehole1983 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Belfast Posts: 21 Member: 2562417 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Yeah I don't mind paying, wait to see what they say!

01-16-2017, 23:30	#24 (permalink)
piehole1983 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Belfast Posts: 21 Member: 2562417 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	As I suspected, Audi cannot and will not give out the PIN or SKC as they put it. They haven't done for years. The car has to be connected to their system which does everything whilst never showing the code to the techs.

01-19-2017, 11:16	#26 (permalink)
piehole1983 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Belfast Posts: 21 Member: 2562417 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I'm not sure its even worth the hassle any more. Do you think the pin might actually be store elsewhere on these clusters? This one has the two Fujitsu MCUs on board.

01-19-2017, 23:36	#27 (permalink)
piehole1983 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Belfast Posts: 21 Member: 2562417 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Update to this: With some help from Carprog giving me a beta of their software to try, the pin is 21579. I was able to read it via OBD using their hardware in a few seconds. Afterwards I logged in using VCDS and can confirm the pin as correct. Maybe some of you can use this working pin and my dump files to see where the pin is derived from. Thank you to those who tried to help, it's very much appreciated.