what is the best language for gsm programing? - GSM-Forum

M-taheri · 09-06-2009, 12:38

what is the best language for gsm programing?

and another question. is vc++ an Obsolete language?

I want to start learning . please guide me . which is best for gsm programing?

boucettay · 09-07-2009, 03:40

C++/C#,VB,Delphi (Pascal)
***/disassebler and understand algo for reverse

WBR,

Dave.W · 09-07-2009, 16:26

If your really new, you may like to check out SMALL BASIC

Its a new language / concept introduced by Microsoft to get more people working with programming.

I had a small mess about with the release and it seemed quite cool!

If you feel like a more advanced tool, check out http://www.microsoft.com/express/ where you can download free versions of Visual Basic and Visual C++ (latest dot net versions).

Good luck!

hitesh2000 · 09-07-2009, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave.W

If your really new, you may like to check out SMALL BASIC

Its a new language / concept introduced by Microsoft to get more people working with programming.

I had a small mess about with the release and it seemed quite cool!

If you feel like a more advanced tool, check out http://www.microsoft.com/express/ where you can download free versions of Visual Basic and Visual C++ (latest dot net versions).

Good luck!

hi dave i have heard that with free ver of vc++ there is no mfc classes
with out that classes the tool is of less use for only students
would you share there are how many editions of vc++ and any free edition
with mfc classes
regards

Dave.W · 09-08-2009, 12:50

No, VC++ dot net is a very useful tool for students, its the latest technology!

There is no MFC because its an old technology.

Take VC++ 2008, select new project, select project type: CLR, select template: Windows Form Application, and enjoy!

For students, take the CLR console application, its for more "low level", embedded style software.

hitesh2000 · 09-08-2009, 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave.W

No, VC++ dot net is a very useful tool for students, its the latest technology!

There is no MFC because its an old technology.

Take VC++ 2008, select new project, select project type: CLR, select template: Windows Form Application, and enjoy!

For students, take the CLR console application, its for more "low level", embedded style software.

thanks for the post please give link to any good tutorials i have download vc++ express edition in our campus we use turbo c++ which is ofcourse an old compiler i want to learn with vc++

Farzad.m · 09-08-2009, 18:40

It's My idie
assembly is the best language For Gsm.

khaleefa · 09-09-2009, 06:30

My vote goes to delphi 7

br,

HPDebug · 09-11-2009, 22:32

Assembly, is the core of programming. Not recommended for regular programmer. Hard to maintain.
Its easily to learn & understand VisualBasic Dot Net.
Pascal/Delphi not very popular these days, may be left in future.
This world (of computing) is already belonged to Microsoft, so what to say.......... MS products have better future compatibility.

I vote .NET languages.

BR
HPDebug

khaleefa · 09-16-2009, 04:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPDebug

Assembly, is the core of programming. Not recommended for regular programmer. Hard to maintain.
Its easily to learn & understand VisualBasic Dot Net.
Pascal/Delphi not very popular these days, may be left in future.
This world (of computing) is already belonged to Microsoft, so what to say.......... MS products have better future compatibility.

I vote .NET languages.

BR
HPDebug

Agreed to extent that .Net is latest technology but right now no one is using .Net framework for gsm programming. or am i wrong?

For the time being delphi is used by SaraSoft, MSTool, PS Tool (products by setool team), Zulea products (i think)

Br,

who am i · 09-16-2009, 08:00

you can use any language as long as it will fit to your needs.
for server side you can use php, asp and etc.. as long as you can managed it.
for win32 application you can use vb, delphi, vb.net, c#, vsc++, borland c++ and even java, But you must
consider the security and no problem in deployment of your software.

I love to use borland product, can be easily deploy even exe only. no need to install environment or framework .

br

frud0 · 09-16-2009, 08:29

.Net products create what we call "intermediate code". These arent in the "portable executable" (normal .exe) format that is common. Thats why there is this dependency on the .Net framework to be installed on the client computer.
Thats one reason why I dont recommend it. (Not easy to port your code then, meaning to make code run on other platforms without much modification.)

http://www.bloodshed.net/ - start with that for C++ if you wish. If you directly want to get down and dirty with serial/usb port programming, start with Visual Basic (get the OLD version from somewhere if possible, i.e. 6 or 2005)

Get some component/library thats used for serial/usb communication and you`re good to go.

If you want to play with RAW data communication with serial/usb devices, to learn how protocols work, use "HyperTerminal" bundled with the Microsoft Windows installation. If I am not wrong, they`ve stopped providing HyperTerminal from Vista onwards.

In that case, download Putty - http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~s.../download.html

(Its the best in either case ;-))

Dave.W · 09-16-2009, 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by khaleefa

For the time being delphi is used by SaraSoft, MSTool, PS Tool (products by setool team), Zulea products (i think)

Sure, but these are past developments. These days, if you attend some college or University course in beginner programming, or need to work in industry, you will find .NET is the most likely language to be there. In the future, I guess it will be "industry standard".

For someone who has done no / little programming before, why start by learning out of date information? Especially when the latest stuff is all there for free, with good support?

These threads always run the same way, some people suggest ASM etc and talk about cracking/reversing firmware. Just remember, the original poster has probably never even made some "hello world" application before, creating a commercial unlock solution is a long, long way in the future!

kr0m · 09-21-2009, 16:53

Start with simple C, then CPP, then arm-asm for loaders and ROM binaries.
Delphi is for lazy coders :P
ps: BASIC the best

Bph&co · 09-22-2009, 09:14

Hi,

We have to keep in mind that this world is not only Windows. There is Linux, Mac
and also hundreds of embedded devices that run ARM cpus. So the choice is
clear: C

This is the only platform independent language - code written for Linux can
be ported in minutes on Windows or even run on small ARM cpu.

About Pascal (Delphi) - the reason is so widely used - many of the GSM programmer
are from ex-communist countries - this rubbish(Pascal) was forced on all of us in the UNI
(i had to learn Fortan even in high school). There is no other reason for it still
being alive.

Regarding VB 6.0 and .Net - for me VB 6.0 was good start in programming,
but .Net seems to take you into direction you don't want to go. You might
as well learn Java and kill yourself.

BR, Alex

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Dave.W No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Age: 41 Posts: 2,821 Member: 7653 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 823	If your really new, you may like to check out SMALL BASIC Its a new language / concept introduced by Microsoft to get more people working with programming. I had a small mess about with the release and it seemed quite cool! If you feel like a more advanced tool, check out http://www.microsoft.com/express/ where you can download free versions of Visual Basic and Visual C++ (latest dot net versions). Good luck!

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Dave.W No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Age: 41 Posts: 2,821 Member: 7653 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 823	No, VC++ dot net is a very useful tool for students, its the latest technology! There is no MFC because its an old technology. Take VC++ 2008, select new project, select project type: CLR, select template: Windows Form Application, and enjoy! For students, take the CLR console application, its for more "low level", embedded style software.

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who am i Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 119 Member: 528692 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 65	you can use any language as long as it will fit to your needs. for server side you can use php, asp and etc.. as long as you can managed it. for win32 application you can use vb, delphi, vb.net, c#, vsc++, borland c++ and even java, But you must consider the security and no problem in deployment of your software. I love to use borland product, can be easily deploy even exe only. no need to install environment or framework . br

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frud0 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2 Member: 1120604 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	.Net products create what we call "intermediate code". These arent in the "portable executable" (normal .exe) format that is common. Thats why there is this dependency on the .Net framework to be installed on the client computer. Thats one reason why I dont recommend it. (Not easy to port your code then, meaning to make code run on other platforms without much modification.) http://www.bloodshed.net/ - start with that for C++ if you wish. If you directly want to get down and dirty with serial/usb port programming, start with Visual Basic (get the OLD version from somewhere if possible, i.e. 6 or 2005) Get some component/library thats used for serial/usb communication and you`re good to go. If you want to play with RAW data communication with serial/usb devices, to learn how protocols work, use "HyperTerminal" bundled with the Microsoft Windows installation. If I am not wrong, they`ve stopped providing HyperTerminal from Vista onwards. In that case, download Putty - http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~s.../download.html (Its the best in either case ;-))

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Bph&co No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: UK Posts: 3,186 Member: 1024 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 5,510	Hi, We have to keep in mind that this world is not only Windows. There is Linux, Mac and also hundreds of embedded devices that run ARM cpus. So the choice is clear: C This is the only platform independent language - code written for Linux can be ported in minutes on Windows or even run on small ARM cpu. About Pascal (Delphi) - the reason is so widely used - many of the GSM programmer are from ex-communist countries - this rubbish(Pascal) was forced on all of us in the UNI (i had to learn Fortan even in high school). There is no other reason for it still being alive. Regarding VB 6.0 and .Net - for me VB 6.0 was good start in programming, but .Net seems to take you into direction you don't want to go. You might as well learn Java and kill yourself. BR, Alex