@ DIV Please explain the situation to your customers - Page 4 - GSM-Forum

DIV · 04-01-2003, 19:17

As I said before, still waiting for ordered chinese dongles.
But, here is some 'small' detail:

ANY Schlumberger (Java) card can be remotely updated (and I mean here write all the Java Applet from inside). And all of this is done using 3DES for crypt the applet code. If somebody think than a 12C509 can emulate this function (who was NEVER used untill now), .... is joking

Also, there is more hidden (not used) things on original Java smartcards, so don't worry about what will happens in the future with this 'chinese clones'

All what I can say is that users of DIV dongles with ORIGINAL Schlumberger smartcards inside will be protected and will have real new updates.

DIV

cmk · 04-01-2003, 19:20

very good news

DIV · 04-01-2003, 19:25

@ cmk:

Possibilities are unlimited

But I just waiting to receive one of this s.h.i.t.s.
For 'security reasons' I will not write here what will happens exactly

Just wait and see.

Regards,
DIV

Bigbrothers2000 · 04-01-2003, 19:29

Quote:

Originally posted by DIV
@ cmk:

Possibilities are unlimited
But I just waiting to receive one of this s.h.i.t.s.
For 'security reasons' I will not write here what will happens exactly

Just wait and see.

Regards,
DIV

Yes you are right first look to this S.h.i.t.s and make new protected software . for real customers

best regards

cmk · 04-01-2003, 19:58

i think some people want to attack div and make fake dongle

first cutting smartcard to small size to fit 12c509 and use glue to
cover it like picture and selling to some people ,if really crack why the price is $300

i near to china but i never see crack div is $150

Quang Thao · 04-01-2003, 20:08

@cmk
No it is true. It is 12C509A in small size. I open glue and see it is 12C509A. It not a small smarcard.
@ DIV
yes you much make your soft with protect bester than.
Because I don't known and I buy 1 this dongle. They say it is come from you. Because at now all is the same and I buy. When I open I see that. I take picture and post here for all to see what is it.
best regards

vule · 04-01-2003, 23:08

So fake again !!! It will do just like terminator !!!

@ DIV

Keep up good work man !

spear · 04-01-2003, 23:17

@cmk

Quote:

i think all crack dongle had same id, div can made next update protect software
to barring this id and give bad command to kill phone

really hope div can keep good support to true customer

True !!!

Supergsm · 04-02-2003, 00:26

Nothing is impossible!

tianma · 04-02-2003, 04:38

fhwong · 04-02-2003, 05:37

@tianma

???????????????????

tianma · 04-02-2003, 05:45

i'm not used smartcards. run soft.

pez8210 · 04-02-2003, 07:21

@DIV

Thanks for the explannation I think all is allright now, we wait for new upgrade full of new surprises

@Invisible Do you believe now?

SADESURF · 04-02-2003, 09:09

@DIV

check your PM!!

regards sade

Invisible · 04-02-2003, 09:45

@Quang Thao:

you are right, I forgot about schematic..

@pez8210:

yes, I belive,

, but still not sure this is craked dongle, last notice I got was that div project was for sale, so could someone had buy it and make variant dongle?

best regards
Invisible

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Invisible No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: รำมว&# Posts: 2,461 Member: 3956 Status: Offline Sonork: galletto3 rules :D Thanks Meter: 55	@Quang Thao: you are right, I forgot about schematic.. @pez8210: yes, I belive, , but still not sure this is craked dongle, last notice I got was that div project was for sale, so could someone had buy it and make variant dongle? best regards Invisible Last edited by Invisible; 04-02-2003 at 10:16.

04-01-2003, 19:17	#46 (permalink)
DIV Freak Poster Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DIV World Comunity Posts: 170 Member: 19869 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	As I said before, still waiting for ordered chinese dongles. But, here is some 'small' detail: ANY Schlumberger (Java) card can be remotely updated (and I mean here write all the Java Applet from inside). And all of this is done using 3DES for crypt the applet code. If somebody think than a 12C509 can emulate this function (who was NEVER used untill now), .... is joking Also, there is more hidden (not used) things on original Java smartcards, so don't worry about what will happens in the future with this 'chinese clones' All what I can say is that users of DIV dongles with ORIGINAL Schlumberger smartcards inside will be protected and will have real new updates. DIV

04-01-2003, 19:20	#47 (permalink)
cmk No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Earth Age: 49 Posts: 587 Member: 10387 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	very good news

04-01-2003, 19:25	#48 (permalink)
DIV Freak Poster Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DIV World Comunity Posts: 170 Member: 19869 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	@ cmk: Possibilities are unlimited But I just waiting to receive one of this s.h.i.t.s. For 'security reasons' I will not write here what will happens exactly Just wait and see. Regards, DIV

04-01-2003, 19:58	#50 (permalink)
cmk No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Earth Age: 49 Posts: 587 Member: 10387 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	i think some people want to attack div and make fake dongle first cutting smartcard to small size to fit 12c509 and use glue to cover it like picture and selling to some people ,if really crack why the price is $300 i near to china but i never see crack div is $150

04-01-2003, 20:08	#51 (permalink)
Quang Thao No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Viet Nam Age: 48 Posts: 544 Member: 5487 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 5	@cmk No it is true. It is 12C509A in small size. I open glue and see it is 12C509A. It not a small smarcard. @ DIV yes you much make your soft with protect bester than. Because I don't known and I buy 1 this dongle. They say it is come from you. Because at now all is the same and I buy. When I open I see that. I take picture and post here for all to see what is it. best regards

04-01-2003, 23:08	#52 (permalink)
vule No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Radiometer Medical ApSBrønshøj Age: 51 Posts: 721 Member: 10854 Status: Offline Sonork: 1578988 Thanks Meter: 3	So fake again !!! It will do just like terminator !!! @ DIV Keep up good work man !

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Supergsm Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 256 Member: 1266 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Nothing is impossible!

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04-02-2003, 05:45	#57 (permalink)
tianma Freak Poster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: play Posts: 414 Member: 9025 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 9	i'm not used smartcards. run soft.

04-02-2003, 07:21	#58 (permalink)
pez8210 Freak Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Palma de Mallorca Age: 50 Posts: 294 Member: 5369 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	@DIV Thanks for the explannation I think all is allright now, we wait for new upgrade full of new surprises @Invisible Do you believe now?

04-02-2003, 09:09	#59 (permalink)
SADESURF Freak Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 132 Member: 17680 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	@DIV check your PM!! regards sade