map for c45 v 35 please - GSM-Forum

mile · 11-08-2002, 23:26

Please map for this two siemens c45 v35
(they can not unlock with c45 mt unloker)
I read with logger 4.03 but they wrote 4.00?

LOG File. Version: 4.00
This log file should be sent to GsmHacking.com
************************************************** ******

[Model: Siemens C45][PhoneID: 7759B63A][Desired IMEI: 350673-72-548106]
[Model: Siemens C45][PhoneID: 0A2710DA][Desired IMEI: 350673-72-536547]

thanks in advance

=>

Kole64 · 11-08-2002, 23:28

******************** Section ********************
***************** ID: 7759B63A ******************
********* Supplied by http://xak.pp.ru **********
********** New IMEI = 350673-72-548106 **********
*************************************************

IMEI Block 00 [Siemens C45]
0xDF 0x18 0x80 0xE0 0xAA 0xA7 0xDB 0x68 0x78 0xB8

IMEI Block 01
0xE3 0xDC 0xA4 0xFF 0x5E 0x40 0x23 0x7E 0x1B 0xA0

IMEI Block 02
0x72 0xA6 0x33 0x54 0x46 0x40 0x25 0x1F 0xE0 0x85
0xEA 0xDC 0xB6 0x65 0x03 0x35 0xB1 0x37 0x04 0x9A
0x9C 0x2A 0x48 0x69 0xED 0x3D 0x10 0xEC 0x6D 0xE6
0x39 0x27 0x1F 0x4B 0x96 0x38 0xEF 0xDC 0x93 0x2D
0x88 0x07 0x67 0xB9 0x50 0x1F 0x17 0xAB 0xCA 0x1A
0xD4 0xC1 0x3A 0x4F 0x62 0x64 0x9E 0x94 0xA8 0x10
0xB5 0xD1 0x06 0xEA 0x05 0x8A 0xEC 0x21 0x6B 0x3E
0xD5 0xF9 0x33 0x9F 0xC5 0x13 0xF9 0x43 0xFB 0x61
0x5A 0x2E 0x8A 0x31 0x3A 0x01 0x35 0x4F 0x11 0x35
0xFE 0xDE 0xA6 0xA3 0x10 0xCF 0x2C 0xED 0x35 0xE0
0x2B 0x78 0x76 0xFE 0xAD 0x39 0x29 0xE9 0xEA 0xE6
0x17 0xA5 0x74 0xA1 0xAA 0x4C 0xF4 0xE5 0x0D 0x80
0x87 0x93 0x77 0xC0 0x64 0x34 0x95 0xA9 0x9B 0xBD
0x74 0x09 0x7C 0xB0 0x3A 0x58 0x66 0x8B 0x1D 0xDF
0x01 0x01 0x5C 0x4E 0xC1 0xAC 0xCA 0x1A 0xC0 0xC0
0x97 0x49 0xEF 0x6F 0x2C 0xC1 0xB8 0x8F 0xBA 0xED
0xC2 0x54 0xBD 0x83 0xAD 0xD4 0x82 0xCA 0x63 0xC8
0xAC 0x53 0x2E 0xE9 0xBA 0x36 0xA9 0xEB 0x2C 0x4D
0x4D 0x4B 0x3D 0x54 0xCA 0x4C 0xDC 0xF0 0x83 0x04
0x32 0x05 0xA6 0x7B 0x3D 0xE6 0xE4 0xC2 0x36 0x78
0x31 0x81 0x7F 0x72 0x2C 0x03 0xDF 0x46 0x06 0x87
0x83 0x2C 0xEE 0xD4 0x84 0xF4 0xC9 0x0C 0x2D 0x0A
0x91 0x28 0xFC 0x4D

IMEI Block 03
0xAC 0xE9 0x08 0xDD 0x7B 0x1D 0xCF 0x20 0x07 0x92
0xCE 0x8E 0x72 0x68 0xE6 0x49 0xC1 0x0E 0xBD 0x95
0x7C 0x5F 0xE5 0x3B 0x62 0xA9 0xBA 0xF0 0x6C 0xE9
0xC4 0x31 0x65 0x96 0x71 0xD3 0xF9 0x33 0x92 0x12
0x77 0x6C 0x9B 0x06 0x80 0x83 0xEA 0xB1 0x3F 0x92
0x55 0x3C 0xC2 0x8A 0xEA 0x2F 0x3D 0x4C 0xB5 0x5D
0xD4 0x86 0xED 0x5F 0xC3 0x81 0xE1 0xE5 0xC7 0x64
0x8D 0x2B 0xA1 0x53 0x95 0x55 0xBE 0x47 0xA7 0x3F
0x96 0x02 0x89 0xA7 0x43 0x3F 0xCD 0x30 0x4B 0x24
0x02 0x1F 0x1A 0x33 0xA9 0x20 0x93 0xDC 0x43 0x6B
0x5F 0x36 0x7C 0x53 0x4C 0x28 0x0D 0x3F 0xFB 0xE2
0x5E 0xAE 0x47 0xC1 0x80 0x9F 0x44 0x2F 0x4B 0xBD
0x16 0xC3 0x8D 0x93 0xE5 0x3F 0xE5 0xCF 0x28 0xBB
0xA7 0x10 0x5B 0x1B 0xC5 0x6D 0x3A 0xFA 0x95 0x6D
0xB0 0xA7 0x76 0x0A 0x3D 0xC9 0x3E 0x7C 0xE5 0xFE
0x23 0x96 0x76 0xBD 0x5D 0x0B 0x2B 0xAE 0x00 0x80
0xF6 0x99 0x82 0x31 0xD3 0xA4 0x1E 0x46 0xC9 0xCE
0xCF 0x2B 0xE0 0x2C 0xB7 0x5D 0xE5 0x0A 0xB9 0x15
0x49 0x7E 0x1E 0xA7 0xB8 0x24 0x28 0xCD 0xC2 0x7C
0xB1 0x83 0x4D 0xC5 0x53 0x4A 0xAE 0x57 0x9C 0xE3
0xAB 0x45 0x09 0x61 0xF3 0x23 0xDA 0x72 0xC9 0x5D
0x40 0x81 0x1A 0x81 0x32 0xD0 0x00 0xF6 0xDE 0xC7
0xE8 0xAD 0x2C 0x46 0xD6 0xBC 0x58 0x9E 0x61 0x67
0x81 0xA8
*************************************************

Kole64 · 11-08-2002, 23:30

******************** Section ********************
***************** ID: 0A2710DA ******************
********* Supplied by http://xak.pp.ru **********
********** New IMEI = 350673-72-536547 **********
*************************************************

IMEI Block 00 [Siemens C45]
0x87 0x67 0x10 0x4B 0x55 0xBB 0x96 0x18 0x03 0x36

IMEI Block 01
0x72 0x9B 0x74 0x8E 0xC5 0x77 0x8B 0x8E 0x8C 0xD8

IMEI Block 02
0x57 0x90 0xD4 0xC3 0xCB 0xF5 0x4D 0x78 0x98 0xC5
0x54 0xC9 0x94 0x4F 0x92 0xE5 0x92 0x87 0x79 0xA9
0x85 0x91 0x63 0x72 0x5F 0x97 0x3F 0x86 0x80 0x34
0xE9 0xF0 0x3A 0x15 0xE5 0x5B 0xEF 0x0B 0xDF 0x1D
0x31 0x67 0x7B 0x48 0xC4 0x70 0x12 0x87 0x35 0x11
0xCA 0xC8 0x3E 0x71 0x28 0xBB 0x09 0x37 0x8D 0x79
0x0C 0xAB 0x28 0xF5 0x18 0x50 0xB8 0x61 0xF6 0x0C
0x48 0x05 0x92 0xAD 0xF1 0xFE 0x3C 0xEB 0xF6 0x26
0x8C 0xE0 0x79 0xE9 0x6C 0xC2 0xDD 0x96 0x13 0x45
0xB8 0xCE 0x71 0xD9 0xDD 0x04 0x7E 0xFF 0x74 0xF3
0x20 0x35 0x60 0x2A 0x87 0x1A 0xEE 0x13 0x1A 0x3F
0xD0 0xAB 0x80 0x78 0x3D 0x58 0x60 0x7A 0x48 0xD0
0x3A 0x75 0xE8 0x11 0x59 0xD2 0x38 0x46 0x85 0x89
0xF2 0x27 0x7A 0xAC 0x12 0x83 0xB7 0x63 0x0F 0xCD
0x74 0x71 0x5C 0xFE 0xB7 0x5F 0x53 0x75 0x6E 0x97
0x46 0xE4 0xDF 0x65 0xD5 0x4A 0x40 0xD0 0xCD 0x13
0x5B 0x6C 0xE9 0x6A 0x8E 0xE9 0xFD 0x5E 0x19 0x3D
0x3B 0xF8 0xF5 0x10 0x3F 0x42 0x7A 0x7D 0xEB 0xD9
0x65 0x79 0xCB 0xA0 0x74 0x6F 0xE4 0xFC 0x4A 0x69
0xE8 0x46 0x25 0xE9 0x52 0x3D 0xE8 0xA7 0xF5 0x37
0xED 0xF5 0xF1 0x48 0xC9 0x71 0xC2 0x16 0x14 0xC2
0xBD 0x3A 0x81 0xF2 0x40 0x40 0xA7 0x9F 0xB0 0xBC
0x2B 0xEF 0x42 0x9E

IMEI Block 03
0x89 0x89 0xD5 0xF4 0xAA 0x67 0xB7 0x93 0x04 0xAB
0x73 0xAB 0xEB 0xE2 0x57 0x72 0x6E 0xF1 0x3D 0x70
0x4C 0xA6 0x51 0x43 0x60 0x33 0xF2 0x7B 0x0E 0x23
0x7A 0x86 0x6D 0xCB 0x54 0x1D 0xB8 0x81 0x07 0xA6
0x9D 0x46 0x2E 0xCD 0x8B 0xB2 0xD4 0xD4 0x61 0xDB
0x4A 0x2E 0x0C 0x32 0x41 0x60 0x12 0xFE 0x7F 0xD9
0xBF 0xDE 0xB3 0x33 0xCD 0x53 0x77 0x54 0x33 0x0C
0x28 0x42 0xAB 0x64 0xE7 0x19 0x36 0x28 0x39 0xC0
0x0F 0x53 0x73 0xA0 0xD3 0x37 0x6C 0x1A 0xE7 0xF4
0x0D 0x70 0xAB 0x1D 0x58 0x60 0x53 0x88 0x7D 0xB4
0xE0 0xC1 0x77 0x69 0xD4 0xB9 0x82 0xA3 0x68 0x23
0xAF 0x78 0x1C 0x3F 0x98 0x8C 0x3B 0xA8 0x4C 0xBB
0x10 0xAF 0xFB 0xBA 0xAC 0xFE 0xF6 0xAC 0x2B 0x45
0x0D 0xDD 0x9C 0x42 0x59 0xA9 0x78 0x3A 0xA9 0xA8
0xEB 0x47 0xC0 0xC9 0x16 0x4F 0x6A 0x8E 0x8E 0xE7
0x73 0xE4 0x43 0x8C 0xB9 0xB3 0x82 0xFE 0x27 0x90
0x20 0x09 0xDD 0xE1 0xCF 0x1B 0x71 0xA7 0x86 0x0D
0x84 0x80 0x25 0xF7 0xAF 0x43 0x85 0xD2 0x89 0x25
0x1F 0xBD 0xC6 0x93 0x4B 0x66 0x10 0xF9 0x46 0x03
0xF2 0xD7 0x1F 0x6D 0xD7 0xB3 0xD6 0xAC 0x93 0xED
0x1B 0xCF 0xBA 0xE9 0x01 0x63 0x39 0xE5 0x42 0xEE
0xF3 0xAB 0xCC 0x9F 0xF9 0x76 0x1C 0xD0 0xDF 0x3D
0x41 0x09 0xFA 0x03 0x65 0x21 0xB8 0xE4 0xB8 0x50
0xAF 0x71
*************************************************

mile · 11-09-2002, 00:09

Thanks my friend,

not twice, allso many times

I try to unlock this two phone for my friend.

I have old but for me ok siemens s 35, only I have little problems with batery.

I hope that shall be ok.

best regards for all on this forum

now one cold beer to me

11-08-2002, 23:26	#1 (permalink)
mile Major Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: southeurope/warly Posts: 43 Member: 4373 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	map for c45 v 35 please Please map for this two siemens c45 v35 (they can not unlock with c45 mt unloker) I read with logger 4.03 but they wrote 4.00? LOG File. Version: 4.00 This log file should be sent to GsmHacking.com ************************************************ **** [Model: Siemens C45][PhoneID: 7759B63A][Desired IMEI: 350673-72-548106] [Model: Siemens C45][PhoneID: 0A2710DA][Desired IMEI: 350673-72-536547] thanks in advance =>

11-08-2002, 23:28	#2 (permalink)
Kole64 No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Earth Age: 60 Posts: 4,075 Member: 9274 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 79	your map 1 ****************** Section **************** ************* ID: 7759B63A ************** ***** Supplied by http://xak.pp.ru ****** ****** New IMEI = 350673-72-548106 ****** ********************************************* IMEI Block 00 [Siemens C45] 0xDF 0x18 0x80 0xE0 0xAA 0xA7 0xDB 0x68 0x78 0xB8 IMEI Block 01 0xE3 0xDC 0xA4 0xFF 0x5E 0x40 0x23 0x7E 0x1B 0xA0 IMEI Block 02 0x72 0xA6 0x33 0x54 0x46 0x40 0x25 0x1F 0xE0 0x85 0xEA 0xDC 0xB6 0x65 0x03 0x35 0xB1 0x37 0x04 0x9A 0x9C 0x2A 0x48 0x69 0xED 0x3D 0x10 0xEC 0x6D 0xE6 0x39 0x27 0x1F 0x4B 0x96 0x38 0xEF 0xDC 0x93 0x2D 0x88 0x07 0x67 0xB9 0x50 0x1F 0x17 0xAB 0xCA 0x1A 0xD4 0xC1 0x3A 0x4F 0x62 0x64 0x9E 0x94 0xA8 0x10 0xB5 0xD1 0x06 0xEA 0x05 0x8A 0xEC 0x21 0x6B 0x3E 0xD5 0xF9 0x33 0x9F 0xC5 0x13 0xF9 0x43 0xFB 0x61 0x5A 0x2E 0x8A 0x31 0x3A 0x01 0x35 0x4F 0x11 0x35 0xFE 0xDE 0xA6 0xA3 0x10 0xCF 0x2C 0xED 0x35 0xE0 0x2B 0x78 0x76 0xFE 0xAD 0x39 0x29 0xE9 0xEA 0xE6 0x17 0xA5 0x74 0xA1 0xAA 0x4C 0xF4 0xE5 0x0D 0x80 0x87 0x93 0x77 0xC0 0x64 0x34 0x95 0xA9 0x9B 0xBD 0x74 0x09 0x7C 0xB0 0x3A 0x58 0x66 0x8B 0x1D 0xDF 0x01 0x01 0x5C 0x4E 0xC1 0xAC 0xCA 0x1A 0xC0 0xC0 0x97 0x49 0xEF 0x6F 0x2C 0xC1 0xB8 0x8F 0xBA 0xED 0xC2 0x54 0xBD 0x83 0xAD 0xD4 0x82 0xCA 0x63 0xC8 0xAC 0x53 0x2E 0xE9 0xBA 0x36 0xA9 0xEB 0x2C 0x4D 0x4D 0x4B 0x3D 0x54 0xCA 0x4C 0xDC 0xF0 0x83 0x04 0x32 0x05 0xA6 0x7B 0x3D 0xE6 0xE4 0xC2 0x36 0x78 0x31 0x81 0x7F 0x72 0x2C 0x03 0xDF 0x46 0x06 0x87 0x83 0x2C 0xEE 0xD4 0x84 0xF4 0xC9 0x0C 0x2D 0x0A 0x91 0x28 0xFC 0x4D IMEI Block 03 0xAC 0xE9 0x08 0xDD 0x7B 0x1D 0xCF 0x20 0x07 0x92 0xCE 0x8E 0x72 0x68 0xE6 0x49 0xC1 0x0E 0xBD 0x95 0x7C 0x5F 0xE5 0x3B 0x62 0xA9 0xBA 0xF0 0x6C 0xE9 0xC4 0x31 0x65 0x96 0x71 0xD3 0xF9 0x33 0x92 0x12 0x77 0x6C 0x9B 0x06 0x80 0x83 0xEA 0xB1 0x3F 0x92 0x55 0x3C 0xC2 0x8A 0xEA 0x2F 0x3D 0x4C 0xB5 0x5D 0xD4 0x86 0xED 0x5F 0xC3 0x81 0xE1 0xE5 0xC7 0x64 0x8D 0x2B 0xA1 0x53 0x95 0x55 0xBE 0x47 0xA7 0x3F 0x96 0x02 0x89 0xA7 0x43 0x3F 0xCD 0x30 0x4B 0x24 0x02 0x1F 0x1A 0x33 0xA9 0x20 0x93 0xDC 0x43 0x6B 0x5F 0x36 0x7C 0x53 0x4C 0x28 0x0D 0x3F 0xFB 0xE2 0x5E 0xAE 0x47 0xC1 0x80 0x9F 0x44 0x2F 0x4B 0xBD 0x16 0xC3 0x8D 0x93 0xE5 0x3F 0xE5 0xCF 0x28 0xBB 0xA7 0x10 0x5B 0x1B 0xC5 0x6D 0x3A 0xFA 0x95 0x6D 0xB0 0xA7 0x76 0x0A 0x3D 0xC9 0x3E 0x7C 0xE5 0xFE 0x23 0x96 0x76 0xBD 0x5D 0x0B 0x2B 0xAE 0x00 0x80 0xF6 0x99 0x82 0x31 0xD3 0xA4 0x1E 0x46 0xC9 0xCE 0xCF 0x2B 0xE0 0x2C 0xB7 0x5D 0xE5 0x0A 0xB9 0x15 0x49 0x7E 0x1E 0xA7 0xB8 0x24 0x28 0xCD 0xC2 0x7C 0xB1 0x83 0x4D 0xC5 0x53 0x4A 0xAE 0x57 0x9C 0xE3 0xAB 0x45 0x09 0x61 0xF3 0x23 0xDA 0x72 0xC9 0x5D 0x40 0x81 0x1A 0x81 0x32 0xD0 0x00 0xF6 0xDE 0xC7 0xE8 0xAD 0x2C 0x46 0xD6 0xBC 0x58 0x9E 0x61 0x67 0x81 0xA8 ***********************************************

11-08-2002, 23:30	#3 (permalink)
Kole64 No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Earth Age: 60 Posts: 4,075 Member: 9274 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 79	your map 2 ****************** Section **************** ************* ID: 0A2710DA ************** ***** Supplied by http://xak.pp.ru ****** ****** New IMEI = 350673-72-536547 ****** ********************************************* IMEI Block 00 [Siemens C45] 0x87 0x67 0x10 0x4B 0x55 0xBB 0x96 0x18 0x03 0x36 IMEI Block 01 0x72 0x9B 0x74 0x8E 0xC5 0x77 0x8B 0x8E 0x8C 0xD8 IMEI Block 02 0x57 0x90 0xD4 0xC3 0xCB 0xF5 0x4D 0x78 0x98 0xC5 0x54 0xC9 0x94 0x4F 0x92 0xE5 0x92 0x87 0x79 0xA9 0x85 0x91 0x63 0x72 0x5F 0x97 0x3F 0x86 0x80 0x34 0xE9 0xF0 0x3A 0x15 0xE5 0x5B 0xEF 0x0B 0xDF 0x1D 0x31 0x67 0x7B 0x48 0xC4 0x70 0x12 0x87 0x35 0x11 0xCA 0xC8 0x3E 0x71 0x28 0xBB 0x09 0x37 0x8D 0x79 0x0C 0xAB 0x28 0xF5 0x18 0x50 0xB8 0x61 0xF6 0x0C 0x48 0x05 0x92 0xAD 0xF1 0xFE 0x3C 0xEB 0xF6 0x26 0x8C 0xE0 0x79 0xE9 0x6C 0xC2 0xDD 0x96 0x13 0x45 0xB8 0xCE 0x71 0xD9 0xDD 0x04 0x7E 0xFF 0x74 0xF3 0x20 0x35 0x60 0x2A 0x87 0x1A 0xEE 0x13 0x1A 0x3F 0xD0 0xAB 0x80 0x78 0x3D 0x58 0x60 0x7A 0x48 0xD0 0x3A 0x75 0xE8 0x11 0x59 0xD2 0x38 0x46 0x85 0x89 0xF2 0x27 0x7A 0xAC 0x12 0x83 0xB7 0x63 0x0F 0xCD 0x74 0x71 0x5C 0xFE 0xB7 0x5F 0x53 0x75 0x6E 0x97 0x46 0xE4 0xDF 0x65 0xD5 0x4A 0x40 0xD0 0xCD 0x13 0x5B 0x6C 0xE9 0x6A 0x8E 0xE9 0xFD 0x5E 0x19 0x3D 0x3B 0xF8 0xF5 0x10 0x3F 0x42 0x7A 0x7D 0xEB 0xD9 0x65 0x79 0xCB 0xA0 0x74 0x6F 0xE4 0xFC 0x4A 0x69 0xE8 0x46 0x25 0xE9 0x52 0x3D 0xE8 0xA7 0xF5 0x37 0xED 0xF5 0xF1 0x48 0xC9 0x71 0xC2 0x16 0x14 0xC2 0xBD 0x3A 0x81 0xF2 0x40 0x40 0xA7 0x9F 0xB0 0xBC 0x2B 0xEF 0x42 0x9E IMEI Block 03 0x89 0x89 0xD5 0xF4 0xAA 0x67 0xB7 0x93 0x04 0xAB 0x73 0xAB 0xEB 0xE2 0x57 0x72 0x6E 0xF1 0x3D 0x70 0x4C 0xA6 0x51 0x43 0x60 0x33 0xF2 0x7B 0x0E 0x23 0x7A 0x86 0x6D 0xCB 0x54 0x1D 0xB8 0x81 0x07 0xA6 0x9D 0x46 0x2E 0xCD 0x8B 0xB2 0xD4 0xD4 0x61 0xDB 0x4A 0x2E 0x0C 0x32 0x41 0x60 0x12 0xFE 0x7F 0xD9 0xBF 0xDE 0xB3 0x33 0xCD 0x53 0x77 0x54 0x33 0x0C 0x28 0x42 0xAB 0x64 0xE7 0x19 0x36 0x28 0x39 0xC0 0x0F 0x53 0x73 0xA0 0xD3 0x37 0x6C 0x1A 0xE7 0xF4 0x0D 0x70 0xAB 0x1D 0x58 0x60 0x53 0x88 0x7D 0xB4 0xE0 0xC1 0x77 0x69 0xD4 0xB9 0x82 0xA3 0x68 0x23 0xAF 0x78 0x1C 0x3F 0x98 0x8C 0x3B 0xA8 0x4C 0xBB 0x10 0xAF 0xFB 0xBA 0xAC 0xFE 0xF6 0xAC 0x2B 0x45 0x0D 0xDD 0x9C 0x42 0x59 0xA9 0x78 0x3A 0xA9 0xA8 0xEB 0x47 0xC0 0xC9 0x16 0x4F 0x6A 0x8E 0x8E 0xE7 0x73 0xE4 0x43 0x8C 0xB9 0xB3 0x82 0xFE 0x27 0x90 0x20 0x09 0xDD 0xE1 0xCF 0x1B 0x71 0xA7 0x86 0x0D 0x84 0x80 0x25 0xF7 0xAF 0x43 0x85 0xD2 0x89 0x25 0x1F 0xBD 0xC6 0x93 0x4B 0x66 0x10 0xF9 0x46 0x03 0xF2 0xD7 0x1F 0x6D 0xD7 0xB3 0xD6 0xAC 0x93 0xED 0x1B 0xCF 0xBA 0xE9 0x01 0x63 0x39 0xE5 0x42 0xEE 0xF3 0xAB 0xCC 0x9F 0xF9 0x76 0x1C 0xD0 0xDF 0x3D 0x41 0x09 0xFA 0x03 0x65 0x21 0xB8 0xE4 0xB8 0x50 0xAF 0x71 ***********************************************

11-09-2002, 00:09	#4 (permalink)
mile Major Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: southeurope/warly Posts: 43 Member: 4373 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	thanks kole64 Thanks my friend, not twice, allso many times I try to unlock this two phone for my friend. I have old but for me ok siemens s 35, only I have little problems with batery. I hope that shall be ok. best regards for all on this forum now one cold beer to me

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