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Old 02-12-2016, 06:30   #1 (permalink)
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T-Mobile iPhone not unlocked, supplier won't refund


I submitted this IMEI to a T-Mobile supplier and he won't refund me now, even though he can't unlock it.

He claims it's not a T-Mobile IMEI.
I pulled GSX and it shows next tether as T-Mobile.

What do you guys think, should he refund or no?

Here is the GSX:

Model: IPHONE 6 MM 16GB GOLD
SerialNumber : FFMBL3L1G6MF
IMEI : 359******15206
FirstUnbrickDate : 12/31/15
LastUnbrickDate : 02/08/16
LastUnbrickOsVersion : 9.2.1
Initial Activation Policy : US GSM/VZW N61/N56 Service Policy
Next Tether Policy : US T-Mobile Locked Activation Policy
LastActivationPolicy : US T-Mobile Locked Activation Policy
Find My iPhone: OFF
Simlock : Locked
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Old 02-12-2016, 19:19   #2 (permalink)
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Old 02-13-2016, 04:56   #3 (permalink)
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I believe he is a member.
His website is theunlockstore.com
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Old 02-13-2016, 05:12   #4 (permalink)
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He must refund for that transaction.
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Old 02-14-2016, 21:18   #5 (permalink)
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I submitted this IMEI to a T-Mobile supplier and he won't refund me now, even though he can't unlock it.

He claims it's not a T-Mobile IMEI.
I pulled GSX and it shows next tether as T-Mobile.

What do you guys think, should he refund or no?

Here is the GSX:

Model: IPHONE 6 MM 16GB GOLD
SerialNumber : FFMBL3L1G6MF
IMEI : 359******15206
FirstUnbrickDate : 12/31/15
LastUnbrickDate : 02/08/16
LastUnbrickOsVersion : 9.2.1
Initial Activation Policy : US GSM/VZW N61/N56 Service Policy
Next Tether Policy : US T-Mobile Locked Activation Policy
LastActivationPolicy : US T-Mobile Locked Activation Policy
Find My iPhone: OFF
Simlock : Locked

Next Tether Policy : US T-Mobile Locked Activation Policy
100% tmobile but ..
the serial u pasted here is fake invalid imei
SerialNumber : FFMBL3L1G6MF
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Old 02-14-2016, 22:07   #6 (permalink)
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Next Tether Policy : US T-Mobile Locked Activation Policy
100% tmobile but ..
the serial u pasted here is fake invalid imei
SerialNumber : FFMBL3L1G6MF
I changed the serial number for privacy reasons but the GSX report is 100% accurate.

The problem is that he claims the initial activation policy is US GSM/VZW N61/N56 Service Policy and supposedly it's not a T-Mobile phone and does not qualify for unlock.

From my experience the only thing that matters is Next Tether.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Aslo the customer is telling me it's a T-Mobile phone that he purchased from Apple.
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Old 02-14-2016, 22:35   #7 (permalink)
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oh good old dipesh hehehehe
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:29   #8 (permalink)
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Initial Activation Policy : US GSM/VZW N61/N56 Service Policy

is not refunded by supplier of mine who is well known...

And this is clearly mentioned in service description also..
If people send imei without reading service description its customers fault and not supplier.

My supplier is also in this forum and he is renowned guy who said no refund for
Initial Activation Policy : US GSM/VZW N61/N56 Service Policy & replacement imeis
which is clearly written on his and mine (website) service description....

Last edited by unstore; 02-15-2016 at 10:30. Reason: wrong
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Old 02-15-2016, 16:44   #9 (permalink)
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Initial Activation Policy : US GSM/VZW N61/N56 Service Policy

is not refunded by supplier of mine who is well known...

And this is clearly mentioned in service description also..
If people send imei without reading service description its customers fault and not supplier.

My supplier is also in this forum and he is renowned guy who said no refund for
Initial Activation Policy : US GSM/VZW N61/N56 Service Policy & replacement imeis
which is clearly written on his and mine (website) service description....
You changed the service description to say there is no refund for "VZW" as initial policy.
I don't know when it was changed and there is no way to prove.
It's your work against mine in the case.
The only thing is, if my customer knows it's a t-mobile phone would I run GSX every time before submitting an order?
That's a waste of time and money simply because your supplier is crap.
I trust my client who said it's a t-mobile phone and next tether is t-mobile as well.

Basically your T-Mobile unlocking service is terrible because it requires to run GSX and even if next tether is T-Mobile you still can't unlock it.

I would recommend everyone to stay away.
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:19   #10 (permalink)
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ok fine no issues you can stay away with service.. supplier is well known person.. and if they put conditions we have no way to tackle it but accept it... if you dont accept better do not send imeis..
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Old 02-16-2016, 12:18   #11 (permalink)
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Well known or not, I think we must all abide by the rules and common decency.
I'm pretty sure all reasonable resellers agree that:

1. Noone can be held responsible for breaching the rules that weren't there in the first place (when they made the original order)
2. Setting a rule that loses people money based on 'initial policy' and not 'next tether' is just bad manners
3. @kstsn Be a professional bro, always do GSX, don't be cheap (especially when you deal with people that don't show common courtesy)
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Old 02-16-2016, 18:15   #12 (permalink)
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Well known or not, I think we must all abide by the rules and common decency.
I'm pretty sure all reasonable resellers agree that:

1. Noone can be held responsible for breaching the rules that weren't there in the first place (when they made the original order)
2. Setting a rule that loses people money based on 'initial policy' and not 'next tether' is just bad manners
3. @kstsn Be a professional bro, always do GSX, don't be cheap (especially when you deal with people that don't show common courtesy)
I absolutely agree with you that Next Tether is what everyone in the industry goes by and scamming people out of money by making a tricky policy is not a good business practice.

Also this guy has never sent any emails notifying customers of this serious policy change. I don't think customers going to read policy every time they want to submit an order let alone clients that use API.
If you make such a drastic policy change - send a freaking email to everyone!

Apparently I'm not the only one who had problems with this guy.

See the screenshot attached. This is from another customer of his.
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Old 02-17-2016, 15:32   #13 (permalink)
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Cant you check the mail from source?? thats the reason i sent u screenshot of source email.. Other customer accepted it as he dint read the description.

Other point is have u connected api??? no right?? than why u worry about my customers who connect api.. u have always sent imeis individually...

@admin:- please close this matter as i have already sent u the details who source is and if u want i can send all proof of emails from source and he is not refunding to anyone..
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Old 02-17-2016, 15:37   #14 (permalink)
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check the email snapshot i tried for Mr.Kstsn...I tried for my other customer to get refund telling source that he checked after one month but still source has not refunded that also....

My other customer very well accepted that he dint read the description!!! and he is not being JERK like the way you not accepting your mistake..!!!

I am ready to show the proof who source is !! and he is not refunding for VZW and replacement imeis!!!

Other thing is VZW imeis if you put in att service they get unlocked but in gsx its locked!!! WILL YOU BLAME AT&T FOR PROVIDING WRONG SERVICE????
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Old 02-17-2016, 15:52   #15 (permalink)
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And the best part is Mr. Kstsn tmobile service you always use mine because of good price and service.. You have done ample of services from me without any issues but if one imei source has not refunded due to change in policy from Jan 1st you blame me and my source??

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