Siemens CE 5.2 font editor

[dspmobile]

Originally Posted by thiagom

Yeah, you are right, thats works! Im greatful you, very thanks..Im not see this "siemens.ini" in lang/rus..
Thanks, regards

Then you must be using an older version in which 'siemens.ini' is in the same directory as the program.....

[dspmobile]

Version 5.2 becomes older but still at : Siemens CE 5.2

just added descriptions for : CX45 v47,43, S65 v43, A65 v05,07

BUT there is a new pre-release of the : Siemens CE 5.3
for testing...

Featuring AUTO font finding of ALL fonts for x65-x70, x60,x55,x50,x45,x35 (true Siemens) phones !

(Does NOT include custom font files. Must get it from 5.2 if you want them!)

[^NaT^]

Hi all.
From my pic. My SL45 can't read thai sms (thai lang sms).
What because?
Have solution for solve this problem?
please recommend for me.
thx a lot.

[dspmobile]

As I have seen, there are NO Thai fonts in SL45i ...
It is not supported there, as in newer Siemens mobiles.
(At least in Fullflashes I have seen).

[Vad!m]

Dear dspmobile.
Contact me now, please.

[dspmobile]

Many thanks to Vad!m (or V!per) for creating "Siemens CE" in the first place!

But let's see some of the features of new
Siemens CE 5.3 - Build 519 (link )

Main feature is AUTO finding All Font tables for All languages/symbol sets and for ALL (true) Siemens phones!

That means that probably it will be able to function for new fw versions of existing models
and maybe even for newer models if Siemens keeps the same structure !
(all x65-x70,x60,x55,x50,x45,x35 are auto-detectable except A35/36 and older
for which the previous 'siemens.ini' mechanism is used or also the even older 'plugin' method)

They are presented in 2 tables.
The Left is the table for all font sizes/styles &
the Right is the table for all lang./symbol sets for the selected row in Left.

Double-click in a row of Left table updates Right table and Char Map of selected row in Right
(simple-click in a row of Left only updates Right table).

Simple or double-click in Right table updates and displays the Char Map and shows 1st character.

If you keep a selected lang. row in Right you can change the different font sizes/styles in Left
to access all fonts for that lang. (provided that you select 'C' type -character fonts rows).

There are some 'Numbers only' fonts with 'N' type that have at most 3 rows on Right table.

Among the languages - scripts that are used in newer Siemens mobiles are Greek, Cyrillic, Latin based lang. of course, Middle East lang. and some Asian languages.

Also the Unicode value and the 'LangPack messages' encoding for each selected character is displayed.

LangPack codes have a meaning only for certain Character type fonts for certain languages only.
(these codes are in accordance with the 'slged.ini' of "language editor" by Skylord).
Can be used in making some patches...

Unicode values in the range E000 - F8FF, that consist the 'Private Use Area', are used from Siemens for a non standard sequence for some Asian languages or some set of symbols or little Icon fonts.
The mechanism that 'maps' these character to its 'normal' unicode value is not known to me.
Such an example is the 2 Arabic fonts that normaly should occupy the area 0600-06FF .
Especially the one set mixed with Arabic and Western symbols gives the most unreliable Unicode value...
For all the other cases it is the correct one !

But also the values for Icon - fonts in the area E400-E47F can be used for finding their use in the code area of the fullflash.
Such an example is the 1st "3 dots" icon-font (E400) that is used in s55 for displaying too large Names to fill the screen in AdressBook or Call lists.
Searching E6 ?? 00 E4 would find where in firmware this character it is used !

As I have seen the program works fine with new SST fullflash files.

Only little testing, with one 2128 fullflash I found, for Far East ( CJK ) models has been done
but I excpect to work with them without problems. But if there are links in Web with such fullflashes please report it to me for further testing!

[dspmobile]

a little refreshment-update with some bug fixes has been placed in the same above link.
Build 520 for Siemens CE 5.3

By the way, it is very strange the new extensive list of small icon - fonts that Siemens has put in CX65 v.47 that did not existed in prev. versions.
They cover the area E600 - E77F.

I am wondering what is the intended use of all these icon-fonts...

[^NaT^]

From this pic. Why lg1,it included Thai font(character)?
Because?

Please reply for me.
Thank you very much.

[dspmobile]

As I have observed, fonts do not differ as the langpacks used.
The same fonts are there for a large variation of langpacks.
(langpacks deal with mesages, menu labels etc.)

In fact, only 2 different font contents exists. The one is for Far East - CJK (Chinese) models and all the rest (European, Middle East and Asia) are on the other.

( Since "European" includes Latin based languages, then also both North and South American latin based languages must be included in it.).

[dspmobile]

The last update for Siemens CE 5.3.3 is available at the same link .

It offers the ability to save all fonts for a selected language.
Also various fixes and improvements.
See the included "Readme53.txt" and check 'History' of the program.

[^NaT^]

@dspmobile
I and my friend try to read sms in Thai langauge in sl45i ,is it possible?
Because SL45 can't read thai sms (thai lang sms).
How to solution?
Help us plese.
Thank you very much.

[BennieZ]

@dspmobile
very thanks for your work at siemens CE!
I am a chinese. I want to find the mechanism that 'maps' these character to its 'normal' unicode value long ago. but only found the table of font. and don't known more.
I test the last update for Siemens CE 5.3.3, It work fine at my 6688V55(SL45i for chinese) and S6CV43(S65 for chinese). and display correct map between charactor and unicode. would you tell me the method? because i want to add some extra font at special style.
Best regard!

[avkiev]

Originally Posted by BennieZ

I am a chinese. I want to find the mechanism that 'maps' these character to its 'normal' unicode value long ago. but only found the table of font. and don't known more.

I don't know nothing about fonts.
But, may be it is the same as in langpack.
See end of file slged.ini from SiemensLanguageEditor:
; Chineese
Trans AA, 4E00
Trans AB, 4E80
Trans AC, 4F00
...
Good luck

[BennieZ]

thanks a lot to avkiev!
The font package format is different with language pack!
i know method that translate from language pack to unicode! it can be found in ID2WString function. but i only know little info about font and T9 format.

[dspmobile]

@BennieZ

Well, do you want to add more characters (add their fonts) or just change the appearence of a specific character font ?

The 2cd can be done already by the program.
But the 1st it is a bit complicated since the structures there are rather complicated. But you need a contigous area.
If you want to add a character to an existing char. set (Unicode base=xxyy and size max 128 chars) then probably you have to repeat all existing characters in a new larger area and add yours. (some other changes must be done for these additional chars to be included).

If somebody wants to replace such a char.set ( as the guy asking for Thai) then probably the font area for that : (Numb of chars)*(bw*h+1)
where
bw .....is width in bytes
h .......is height in pixels
must cover the replacement.

As far as the stuctures, there is first a table which let's call Master Font Table that correspond to the Left table in "Siemens CE" where for each row of it, it points to a different, each time, table for the specific char. sets as shown in the Right table. But also it has a 2cd pointer to another stucture (512 bytes) that describes the position of the char. sets inside the Unicode code space .

That Char. sets Table also has 2 numbers that are the Start character code and the End Character code (inside the specific Unicode range) in Normal cases when the characters presented by Siemens follow exactly the Unicode sequence. The special case is when this sequence cannot be followed because only a few but non in sequence chars must be presented. ( It took me a long time to find how it works in this 2cd case).
That happens with most CJK (Chinese) char. sets .


I think it is too much to described here !
I will try to update an initial draft doc I made when I tried to understand these structures. You must give me through a P.M. your e-mail addresses (you and maybe ^NAT^) so I can sent it to you.
Also I can give you a link to a Developer edition of Siemens CE that displays more information on the tables ( but it has limitations since it is based in older version of Siemens CE.).