Prodigy update - GSM-Forum

quick · 12-13-2003, 12:28

It's possible to update cloned Prodigy from 0.99 to 1.05 ? I think maybe small change in hex, then will prodigy wizard update think "it's version 1.0x". I don't know, maybe next way is update with Prodigy 5.00 auto update. On official prodigy web writing (Customer who haven't update their dongle with Prodigy Firmware Build Version to 00.00.00.99, please access to the FTP for Prodigy v5.00 auto update. (Only Prodigy's dongle with firmware build version 00.00.00.99 above can be use with Prodigy Wizard Update). Have this autoupdate somebody? Maybe this auto update work's only with small fix of hex? Have somebody some experiences with this??

Thank you
Sorry for my english.
br, Quick

X-Shadow · 12-13-2003, 14:31

Hi,

A simple HEX Editing and changing string 00 99 to 01 05 will
make your prodigy software actually detect the box as 1.05...
But the functions remains the same as a .99 box... UEM Tools
will run, but it will not work on reading/writing UEM Data...
Unlocking will not work as well... and maybe some other functions
are also left not working...

If you want the latest updates, as well as support, consider
buying an original dongle. Otherwise be happy with the
functions and capabilities of .99 (which is already enough).

Best Regards,
X-Shadow

Sonia · 12-13-2003, 16:44

Tom_x have 00.00.01.05 hex for Prodigy box (i think so). Maybe onetime he will place its for free........

WBR
Alex.

Prima · 12-13-2003, 18:16

@Tom_x PLEAS GIVE THE GIFT FOR CHRISTMAS.

Freestyler2000 · 12-13-2003, 18:52

Guys,
Dont be greedy.

Prima · 12-13-2003, 21:38

@Freestyler2000
We are not greedy we - we are obstinate have spent a lot of time for manufacturing clone BOXING and we want to use all his(its) opportunities. There is no sense to buy one more normal boxing when such big work is done.
@Freestyler2000 how is it Prodigy not work witch nokia 1100 3200 ?

Sonia · 12-14-2003, 12:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Freestyler2000
Guys,
Dont be greedy.

I remember that somebody said that free scheme and hex in net for prodigy is a fake............?

WBR
Alex.

Freestyler2000 · 12-14-2003, 13:07

Hi Sonia,

No offence, but the schematics was not really the same
Do you remember the resistor which is a 100 Ohm and did you?
It should not be 100 Ohm
And do you remember the 78Lxx - it should not be this it is KF33BD - very nice 3.3 voltage regulators.

Also regarding the HEX, it was said it is not ok, cos of the EEPROM missing.

Best regards
Daniel

DR_WEB · 12-14-2003, 13:36

Hello Everebody

Who has a 10000% working HEX files for PIK and eeprom files
and what kind of prodigy version for these files.

My dongle info:
Device Version: 07.00
Device Serial Number: 5101
Firmware Build Version: 00.00.00.99
Date of manufacture: 15/07/03
Date of sale: 15/07/03

Prodigy detected my phone only in case of connection when i am using "Prodigy MBUS" In this case on the left side of prodigy window shows the type of the phone

Thanks before hand,
Elmir

sysop104 · 12-14-2003, 15:48

Hi,

@Freestyler2000

>Also regarding the HEX, it was said it is not ok, cos of the >EEPROM missing.

Not true. Look in page 8 of the original thread. You can clearly see the dates (0f0703) or the serial: 13ED= 5101 towards the end of the hex file.
:1000F0000034000A0007070013ED000000000000B4
The hex was a *fully* working .99 complete hex.

>And do you remember the 78Lxx - it should not be this it is >KF33BD - very nice 3.3 voltage regulators.

It just strirkes me the fact that prodigy 1.550 can reliably write UEM chip with only 4V Vbat. I dont have the 1.05 hex to test these functions but it wouldnt surprise me at all if all short of problems appear when trying to write rpl to blank UEM. Except if you have two hardware versions for prodigy...

B.R

Sonia · 12-14-2003, 17:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Freestyler2000
Hi Sonia,

No offence, but the schematics was not really the same
Do you remember the resistor which is a 100 Ohm and did you?
It should not be 100 Ohm
And do you remember the 78Lxx - it should not be this it is KF33BD - very nice 3.3 voltage regulators.

Also regarding the HEX, it was said it is not ok, cos of the EEPROM missing.

Best regards
Daniel

Ok Daniel, thanks for reply, but:

1. Resistor 100 Ohm (or some between 390-470 Ohm in reality) is such usefull as poultice for the dead man (sorry, russian saying).
It is only additional load for voltage regulator when the last is not loaded.
2. Only the latest idiot can think, seeing this scheme, that regulators is from 78L or 78, or some other nearest, series.
3. And eeprom missing was only the question of time because of impossibility to protect 24 eeprom IC series. As for Hex eeprom - the result of its missing is only not working DCT-3 and DCT-4 utilites.

P.S.
I hold in high respect the work of Prodigy team. Can say from myself as from engineer that the scheme decision is very simple and effectively.

WBR
Alex.

Sonia · 12-14-2003, 17:17

@DR_WEB

Contact me via ICQ on monday.

WBR
Alex.

Freestyler2000 · 12-15-2003, 14:00

Quote:

Originally posted by sysop104
Hi,

@Freestyler2000

>Also regarding the HEX, it was said it is not ok, cos of the >EEPROM missing.

Not true. Look in page 8 of the original thread. You can clearly see the dates (0f0703) or the serial: 13ED= 5101 towards the end of the hex file.
:1000F0000034000A0007070013ED000000000000B4
The hex was a *fully* working .99 complete hex.

>And do you remember the 78Lxx - it should not be this it is >KF33BD - very nice 3.3 voltage regulators.

It just strirkes me the fact that prodigy 1.550 can reliably write UEM chip with only 4V Vbat. I dont have the 1.05 hex to test these functions but it wouldnt surprise me at all if all short of problems appear when trying to write rpl to blank UEM. Except if you have two hardware versions for prodigy...

B.R

If one man who says you need 5.1 V for the UEM write, does not mean it is true.

And, belive me man. If the build in the device is 99, this still does not mean it is really 99.
With a simple hex edit, you can even make it two hundred and 99. but it will be still 86.

Best regards
Daniel

sysop104 · 12-15-2003, 14:30

> If one man who says you need 5.1 V for the UEM write, does not mean it is true.

I know that from own experience and not from someone else. PM me if you want to know how. I would lstill say that they should be problems writting *reliably* UEMs with prodigy if that is its present hardware settings.

B.R.

Fonefingz · 12-15-2003, 14:46

Quote:

Originally posted by sysop104
> If one man who says you need 5.1 V for the UEM write, does not mean it is true.

I know that from own experience and not from someone else. PM me if you want to know how. I would lstill say that they should be problems writting *reliably* UEMs with prodigy if that is its present hardware settings.

B.R.

have you ever used uem tools by xp mobile?
do you even own a real prodigy box?

without answering yes to both of the above questions i would say you are not fit to make the statement below

Quote:

. I would lstill say that they should be problems writting *reliably* UEMs with prodigy if that is its present hardware settings.

i can answer yes to both questions and can assure you it works and works really well.

maybe one day you can come and meet me and ill give you a demonstration.

regards
fonefingz

12-13-2003, 12:28	#1 (permalink)
quick Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 12 Member: 11063 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Prodigy update It's possible to update cloned Prodigy from 0.99 to 1.05 ? I think maybe small change in hex, then will prodigy wizard update think "it's version 1.0x". I don't know, maybe next way is update with Prodigy 5.00 auto update. On official prodigy web writing (Customer who haven't update their dongle with Prodigy Firmware Build Version to 00.00.00.99, please access to the FTP for Prodigy v5.00 auto update. (Only Prodigy's dongle with firmware build version 00.00.00.99 above can be use with Prodigy Wizard Update). Have this autoupdate somebody? Maybe this auto update work's only with small fix of hex? Have somebody some experiences with this?? Thank you Sorry for my english. br, Quick

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12-13-2003, 14:31	#2 (permalink)
X-Shadow No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: GSM Forum Posts: 1,108 Member: 871 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 602	Hi, A simple HEX Editing and changing string 00 99 to 01 05 will make your prodigy software actually detect the box as 1.05... But the functions remains the same as a .99 box... UEM Tools will run, but it will not work on reading/writing UEM Data... Unlocking will not work as well... and maybe some other functions are also left not working... If you want the latest updates, as well as support, consider buying an original dongle. Otherwise be happy with the functions and capabilities of .99 (which is already enough). Best Regards, X-Shadow

12-13-2003, 16:44	#3 (permalink)
Sonia Freak Poster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ukraine Age: 48 Posts: 348 Member: 8779 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Tom_x have 00.00.01.05 hex for Prodigy box (i think so). Maybe onetime he will place its for free........ WBR Alex.

12-13-2003, 18:16	#4 (permalink)
Prima No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ESTONIA Tallin Age: 49 Posts: 641 Member: 6758 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 294	@Tom_x PLEAS GIVE THE GIFT FOR CHRISTMAS.

12-13-2003, 18:52	#5 (permalink)
Freestyler2000 No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: UK Posts: 724 Member: 2868 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 514	Guys, Dont be greedy.

12-13-2003, 21:38	#6 (permalink)
Prima No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ESTONIA Tallin Age: 49 Posts: 641 Member: 6758 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 294	@Freestyler2000 We are not greedy we - we are obstinate have spent a lot of time for manufacturing clone BOXING and we want to use all his(its) opportunities. There is no sense to buy one more normal boxing when such big work is done. @Freestyler2000 how is it Prodigy not work witch nokia 1100 3200 ?

12-14-2003, 13:07	#8 (permalink)
Freestyler2000 No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: UK Posts: 724 Member: 2868 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 514	Hi Sonia, No offence, but the schematics was not really the same Do you remember the resistor which is a 100 Ohm and did you? It should not be 100 Ohm And do you remember the 78Lxx - it should not be this it is KF33BD - very nice 3.3 voltage regulators. Also regarding the HEX, it was said it is not ok, cos of the EEPROM missing. Best regards Daniel

12-14-2003, 13:36	#9 (permalink)
DR_WEB Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BAKU Age: 44 Posts: 28 Member: 14566 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Hello Everebody Who has a 10000% working HEX files for PIK and eeprom files and what kind of prodigy version for these files. My dongle info: Device Version: 07.00 Device Serial Number: 5101 Firmware Build Version: 00.00.00.99 Date of manufacture: 15/07/03 Date of sale: 15/07/03 Prodigy detected my phone only in case of connection when i am using "Prodigy MBUS" In this case on the left side of prodigy window shows the type of the phone Thanks before hand, Elmir

12-14-2003, 15:48	#10 (permalink)
sysop104 Freak Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 256 Member: 17702 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Hi, @Freestyler2000 >Also regarding the HEX, it was said it is not ok, cos of the >EEPROM missing. Not true. Look in page 8 of the original thread. You can clearly see the dates (0f0703) or the serial: 13ED= 5101 towards the end of the hex file. :1000F0000034000A0007070013ED000000000000B4 The hex was a fully working .99 complete hex. >And do you remember the 78Lxx - it should not be this it is >KF33BD - very nice 3.3 voltage regulators. It just strirkes me the fact that prodigy 1.550 can reliably write UEM chip with only 4V Vbat. I dont have the 1.05 hex to test these functions but it wouldnt surprise me at all if all short of problems appear when trying to write rpl to blank UEM. Except if you have two hardware versions for prodigy... B.R

12-14-2003, 17:17	#12 (permalink)
Sonia Freak Poster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ukraine Age: 48 Posts: 348 Member: 8779 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	@DR_WEB Contact me via ICQ on monday. WBR Alex.

12-15-2003, 14:30	#14 (permalink)
sysop104 Freak Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 256 Member: 17702 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	> If one man who says you need 5.1 V for the UEM write, does not mean it is true. I know that from own experience and not from someone else. PM me if you want to know how. I would lstill say that they should be problems writting reliably UEMs with prodigy if that is its present hardware settings. B.R.