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09-12-2002, 19:38 | #1 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: croatia Age: 69
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Member: 3616 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0 | ***N E T M O N I T O R Dct-4+ Mistery Solved***|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Today at the local Nokia's press conference where they introduced 6610, 3510i and 3650 I had the opportunity to talk to one guy from finland who made all answers to my questions about Field Test (Net monitor) in newer phones (DCT4 and beyond) From DCT4 generation to future Net monitor will be available ONLY in the phones that are set in factory to have such feature, it's not a software thing anymore. Phones with Net monitor enabled can be ordered at local Nokia deraler if you are a network engeener (or, as like me - press :-) It will not be able to eneble it with any newer version of WinPhoenix or any other service software, it can be done ONLY in the factory. The reason - the network providers made complaints to Nokia on easy Net monitor enabling so users could easyly measure signal strenght and other service features and made a lot of complaints about the "real service" :-) So, I guess tat is the end of story of Nokias and Field test for ordinairy people...If you have someone working in an ditributive center or Nokia dealer you can order it for youself, NO ENABLING BY END-USERS WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE, as far as Nokia is concerned (I hava an offer at the dealer to order mine with Net mon) Also, I got to play with 6610 and with 3650. They also had one 3510 that was supposed to fool people they have 3510i, it was turned of all the time but you could see the display is green (monochrome) And - tadaaaaa - 3650 had Test (Field Test) Bug icon - Net monitor installed and I'm giving you an exclusive picture of the screen Also, I'm giving SW versions shots of both 6610 and 3650 Few words about the monitor - It is lot more user friendly and had full names and long sentence descrpitions |
09-16-2002, 21:44 | #6 (permalink) |
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Member: 9868 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0 | IMHO they didn't implement subprograms in the flash for showing net monitor on the screen or is coded in e2p like checksums for IMEI & simlock. Second possibility is most likely. So there will a hard way to go to view netmonitor in nowadays. |
09-17-2002, 19:26 | #7 (permalink) |
No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Somewhere in the World Age: 54
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Member: 9848 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 144 | To ensure that there is really a special firmware version just flash a field test display enabled phone with a new firmware version in a normal service center. When field test display is gone, you are probably right, if field test display is still there, there is either a special firmware add-on or just a eeprom value in the phone or the service center phoenix could the detect original field test display enabled phone before flashing. Against a firmware add-on there is the following argument: Field test display could be quite old, but normal firmware could be much newer and this could cause either conflicts or nokia is restricted in the development of newer firmware. Do you really guess, that a network operator would like to send all its field test display phones back to factory every time a new firmware is available? Nobody can read out a dct-4 flash this time, and of course nokia says that there is a special firmware, but this has nothing to say. They tell this to us even during DCT-3 generation until PC-Locals find its way out of R&D department. I guess that there is just a secret m-bus command to activate field test display and this activation software remains in nokia R&D or the command is available only in the R&D version of phoenix (why service centers only have access to the 3.76.002 version, there should be a 3.76.001 version, too) When you just look to the flash service package for 3510 NHM-8 version 3.34 you will find a file named ftd.set and the following content [FTD_Activation #CD524680-C794-11d5-AD11-009027A2E3DE] 00 and there is a 0508270.ini file with the following content [ProductInfo] ProductType=NHM-8 PpmId=C Description=FTD RestoreDefaultRestore=1 UseDefaultProductProfile=Yes [Settings] Setting1 = FTD Setting2 = FileManager - All files [NMP.Cmn.UserSettingsRWFN] File = C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\NHM-8\ftd.set [NMP.Cmn.FileManagerFN] FileManagerSettingsFile=C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\nhm-8\europe.fms And in NHM-7 8310 V 05.06 package you can find the following files: ftd.sav: [NMP.Cmn.UserSettingsRWFN] File=D:\Programme\Nokia\Phoenix\products\NHM-7\ftd.ui and 0507295.ini : [ProductInfo] ProductType=NHM-7 PpmId=c Description=Euro-C Operator FTD RestoreDefaultRestore=1 UseDefaultProductProfile=Yes [Settings] Setting1 = Product Profile Setting2 = WAP Bookmarks Setting3 = UI settings [NMP.Cmn.ProductProfileFN] ProductProfileFile=D:\Programme\Nokia\Phoenix\Prod ucts\NHM-7\euro.pp [NMP.Cmn.WapSettingsAndBookmarksFN] WapBookmarksFile=D:\Programme\Nokia\Phoenix\Produc ts\NHM-7\nokia_eu.wb2 ; This is just to confirm that menu is visible. ; Does not actually activate FTD. [NMP.Cmn.UserSettingsRWFN] File=D:\Programme\Nokia\Phoenix\products\NHM-7\ftd.ui [Modes] Default=Test Timeout=5000 ; This is just to confirm that menu is visible. ; Does not actually activate FTD. How I guess, special m-bus command in factory, but phone flashable with normal firmware package in normal service centers or how I said special firmware add-on but I don't guess that. |
07-06-2003, 00:33 | #9 (permalink) |
No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Split / Zagreb, Croatia Age: 53
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Member: 2236 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 58 | Hey Josip Have you "sniffed" some more specific details because we wait here for over 6 months Spalato P.S.: I couldn't resist to dig this post out of the dust |
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