WinXP Sp2 bluetooth vs Widcomm? - GSM-Forum

KidJoe · 02-24-2004, 02:17

SP2 for WinXP is said to include Bluetooth support. Has anyone tried it? How do they compare to the current Widcomm drivers we all love?

LION_III · 02-24-2004, 20:26

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Originally Posted by KidJoe

SP2 for WinXP is said to include Bluetooth support. Has anyone tried it? How do they compare to the current Widcomm drivers we all love?

I've tried XP SP2 beta v2055 and it only supports one extra profile (Serial Port) then what SP1 did. It doesn't support BT audio gateway, BT headset etc. In other words, as it is now, yes it is an option but only for people with BT phones.

KidJoe · 02-24-2004, 21:39

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Originally Posted by LION_III

I've tried XP SP2 beta v2055 and it only supports one extra profile (Serial Port) then what SP1 did. It doesn't support BT audio gateway, BT headset etc. In other words, as it is now, yes it is an option but only for people with BT phones.

So then those of us with PDAs who want to sync via bluetooth will still need the Widcomm drivers?

LION_III · 02-25-2004, 11:20

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Originally Posted by KidJoe

So then those of us with PDAs who want to sync via bluetooth will still need the Widcomm drivers?

Again, as XP SP2 beta is right now, yes you would be better off using the hacked WIDCOMM drivers.

leemperor · 02-25-2004, 20:25

Well I would love to add something of value here, but I believe Lion_III has said it all. Obviously we can't comment on the final SP2 because it isn't out yet. Looking at the beta its ok, but its not very comprehensive.

Does anyone know if there are any other stacks out there that could be used semi-universally?

Phantasm4489 · 02-27-2004, 18:27

BlueSoleil seems to be fairly fully featured also, but doesnt seem to have the exposure that the widcomm stack has.

The thing that irritated me about BlueSoleil was that it was practically impossible to install on my system since i dont have non-bluetooth mouse and it is very hard to drive their interface without a mouse.

reddi · 05-07-2004, 15:40

is there a solution to get the widcomm sw. running on a sp2 machine?

it seems to be impossible 4 me ;-(

leemperor · 05-07-2004, 19:04

yes. you need to do a manual driver update, and force the device to use the widcomm driver. details available on the newest revision of my bluetooth guide - http://www.jonsguides.com/bt/

reddi · 05-10-2004, 01:22

thx 4 solving my problems ;-)

surge · 05-12-2004, 09:03

btw on some PC you need to disable microsoft built in BT support.
(services.msc => Bluetooth Support Service)

Phantom69 · 05-27-2004, 17:09

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Originally Posted by leemperor

yes. you need to do a manual driver update, and force the device to use the widcomm driver. details available on the newest revision of my bluetooth guide - http://www.jonsguides.com/bt/

I'm not so sure if this is necessary anymore, unless I'm missing something here (I'm new here after all, so I apologise in advance if I'm stepping on toes).

I used various WIDCOMM versions with my 6310i, and continued using it with my 6600 for a while. Then as the XP SP2 beta's came out, I tried with each one to use the built-in support, after a few attempts they seem to have got it working to the point now where it actually works better (for my uses) without any WIDCOMM software at all. Latest SP2 build is 2120, although 2139/2140 (RC2) is due out in a few days.

I now have no WIDCOMM software installed at all, and have PC-Suite set up to communicate to the phone via the built-in support, plus the phone can act as a bluetooth modem.

Am I missing something? Why would I want to use the WIDCOMM instead of the built-in support?

Thanks,

P69

P.S. If it's at all relevant, I have an EIO WaveLinker Bluetooth USB Dongle at home, a Belkin F8T003 Bluetooth USB Dongle at work, and a Nokia 6600 (v3.42.1).

Phantasm4489 · 05-27-2004, 18:18

I got the impression that the only thing they had really added was the serial profile.

Does it do file transfers, PIM syncing, Headset etc etc?

Also some people are not comfortable installing beta versions of software.

surge · 05-27-2004, 23:29

file transfers is supported
PIM sync, headset I don't think so
hopefully when RC2 become final microsoft will support it.

Phantasm4489 · 05-28-2004, 00:39

I heard that SP2 will be released in early to mid june so I doubt there will be many changes from the latest betas.

Rooter · 05-31-2004, 10:13

From where i can download widcomm drivers

?? Please help

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02-25-2004, 20:25	#5
leemperor Crazy Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sheffield, UK Age: 28 Posts: 51 Member: 44457 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Well I would love to add something of value here, but I believe Lion_III has said it all. Obviously we can't comment on the final SP2 because it isn't out yet. Looking at the beta its ok, but its not very comprehensive. Does anyone know if there are any other stacks out there that could be used semi-universally?

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Phantasm4489 Freak Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 108 Member: 40901 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	BlueSoleil seems to be fairly fully featured also, but doesnt seem to have the exposure that the widcomm stack has. The thing that irritated me about BlueSoleil was that it was practically impossible to install on my system since i dont have non-bluetooth mouse and it is very hard to drive their interface without a mouse.

05-07-2004, 15:40	#7
reddi Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Age: 25 Posts: 2 Member: 64884 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	is there a solution to get the widcomm sw. running on a sp2 machine? it seems to be impossible 4 me ;-(

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leemperor Crazy Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sheffield, UK Age: 28 Posts: 51 Member: 44457 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	yes. you need to do a manual driver update, and force the device to use the widcomm driver. details available on the newest revision of my bluetooth guide - http://www.jonsguides.com/bt/

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reddi Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Age: 25 Posts: 2 Member: 64884 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thx 4 solving my problems ;-)

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surge Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5 Member: 37702 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	btw on some PC you need to disable microsoft built in BT support. (services.msc => Bluetooth Support Service)

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Phantasm4489 Freak Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 108 Member: 40901 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I got the impression that the only thing they had really added was the serial profile. Does it do file transfers, PIM syncing, Headset etc etc? Also some people are not comfortable installing beta versions of software.

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surge Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5 Member: 37702 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	file transfers is supported PIM sync, headset I don't think so hopefully when RC2 become final microsoft will support it.

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Phantasm4489 Freak Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 108 Member: 40901 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I heard that SP2 will be released in early to mid june so I doubt there will be many changes from the latest betas.

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Rooter Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 24 Posts: 3 Member: 55699 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	From where i can download widcomm drivers ?? Please help