MS Q323183 Bluetooth Patch for XP-SP1 'vs' MS XP-SP2 BT - GSM-Forum

leemperor · 03-26-2004, 01:17

Well, I've been doing some comparing of the MS driver that came on the XP-SP1 CD (the same driver that comes with the current MS keyboards and Mice) and the driver that comes with the RC1 release of XP-SP2...

I've noticed a few differences. The XP SP2 Driver actually works! Well, it does with my phone! The Q323183 driver only offers a "DUN" service - which isn't veyr useful to me. The SP2 driver includes a "Nokia PC Suite" service and a "COM Port" service. Using the "Nokia PC Suite" service I've succesfully synchronised my 6310i with outlook, and modified some of its contents with Nokia Phone Editor. I haven't yet tested any other software but I'm pretty optimistic about it.

The SP2 version also adds a nice system tray icon, and replaces the former control panel applet with a new applet with a few more options.

If this does work for others as it seems to for me then it will save a LOT of hassle with the widcomm drivers for a lot of people. I suspect however that the new MS Drivers won't include all the services that many people want. Infact I can only see the COM Port service and PC Suite service (which is a com port based service), so people wanting other features may struggle.

There does seem to be some mention of a PAN (Personal Area Network) but I haven't had chance to test this yet.

If anyone has any other info about SP2 Bluetooth Support then please let the rest of us know! Cheers

derek_bartram · 03-26-2004, 23:52

I've been working on the SP2 BT drivers for a few weeks now. They definatly do seam a lot better than the existing patch for MS users. However there do still seam to be problems....

1) Using Serial ports, only 1 port ever gets added no matter how many devices you try and make it work through [even tho it suggests otherwise]. All my devices go to COM21 which means it causes some software not to work properly [can't make 2 apps listen on 1 com port].

2) Serial port is unreliable. You quite often loose access to the port. I have found that many pieces of software have problems where they can no-longer connect to the port until you restart [althougth this may be a non-SP2 problem].

3) PAN network support is pretty much useless. I tried making it work, but it turns out it cannot be used to make a BT PAN network, but rather only connect to it [VERY annoying - £50 for a bluetooth hub].

However, it does make the bluetooth dongle work quite nicly with P800, P900, Palm m505 [with bluetooth adapter]. File transfer works, as does serial port accesses remotely [although as I said above only just].

leemperor, you said you had a new tray icon for it. I never got that... what does it look like, and what does it do?

leemperor · 03-28-2004, 12:14

looks quite similar to the widcomm system tray icon. a little bluetooth icon. It gives you access to the control panel options and various other bits. see screenshot

derek_bartram · 03-29-2004, 02:43

Ta for reply leemperor....

huh, I didn't get that. I might give removing all the MS crud and putting it in again another try.

Did you already have the MS stuff installed when you installed SP2 leemperor?

leemperor · 03-29-2004, 15:20

I did a fresh install from an XP CD with SP1 slipstreamed into it. Then I installed SP2. Didn't have any other patched installed before I installed SP2

call me Jon if you like, its shorter

alexwu · 03-31-2004, 02:11

I've just installed windows XP SP2, but you said that "The SP2 driver includes a "Nokia PC Suite" servic", I could not found where the service was.
Please tell me how to use "Nokia PC suite" service . Thank you!

derek_bartram · 04-01-2004, 04:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexwu

I've just installed windows XP SP2, but you said that "The SP2 driver includes a "Nokia PC Suite" servic", I could not found where the service was.
Please tell me how to use "Nokia PC suite" service . Thank you!

Can't say I noticed that..... There certainly wasn't anything in my All Programs menu. On the plus side, I have just managed to get the WIDCOMMs to finally work on my system [yay], and everything is a lot better now [although it did require a format reinstall as I screwed windows when I was removing the old MS bluetooth rubbish]

leemperor · 04-01-2004, 15:05

I have a 6310i and after the MS XP SP2 drivers found the phone they offered me a "Nokia PC Suite" service. I already had PC Suite installed.

Rooter · 06-02-2004, 18:36

Download link please .........

Senior · 06-21-2004, 16:17

Nokia PC Suite: www.nokia.com
MS XP SP2: www.microsoft.com

BR

03-26-2004, 01:17	#1
leemperor Crazy Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sheffield, UK Age: 28 Posts: 51 Member: 44457 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	MS Q323183 Bluetooth Patch for XP-SP1 'vs' MS XP-SP2 BT Well, I've been doing some comparing of the MS driver that came on the XP-SP1 CD (the same driver that comes with the current MS keyboards and Mice) and the driver that comes with the RC1 release of XP-SP2... I've noticed a few differences. The XP SP2 Driver actually works! Well, it does with my phone! The Q323183 driver only offers a "DUN" service - which isn't veyr useful to me. The SP2 driver includes a "Nokia PC Suite" service and a "COM Port" service. Using the "Nokia PC Suite" service I've succesfully synchronised my 6310i with outlook, and modified some of its contents with Nokia Phone Editor. I haven't yet tested any other software but I'm pretty optimistic about it. The SP2 version also adds a nice system tray icon, and replaces the former control panel applet with a new applet with a few more options. If this does work for others as it seems to for me then it will save a LOT of hassle with the widcomm drivers for a lot of people. I suspect however that the new MS Drivers won't include all the services that many people want. Infact I can only see the COM Port service and PC Suite service (which is a com port based service), so people wanting other features may struggle. There does seem to be some mention of a PAN (Personal Area Network) but I haven't had chance to test this yet. If anyone has any other info about SP2 Bluetooth Support then please let the rest of us know! Cheers

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03-26-2004, 23:52	#2
derek_bartram Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 26 Posts: 18 Member: 54476 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've been working on the SP2 BT drivers for a few weeks now. They definatly do seam a lot better than the existing patch for MS users. However there do still seam to be problems.... 1) Using Serial ports, only 1 port ever gets added no matter how many devices you try and make it work through [even tho it suggests otherwise]. All my devices go to COM21 which means it causes some software not to work properly [can't make 2 apps listen on 1 com port]. 2) Serial port is unreliable. You quite often loose access to the port. I have found that many pieces of software have problems where they can no-longer connect to the port until you restart [althougth this may be a non-SP2 problem]. 3) PAN network support is pretty much useless. I tried making it work, but it turns out it cannot be used to make a BT PAN network, but rather only connect to it [VERY annoying - £50 for a bluetooth hub]. However, it does make the bluetooth dongle work quite nicly with P800, P900, Palm m505 [with bluetooth adapter]. File transfer works, as does serial port accesses remotely [although as I said above only just]. leemperor, you said you had a new tray icon for it. I never got that... what does it look like, and what does it do?

03-29-2004, 02:43	#4
derek_bartram Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 26 Posts: 18 Member: 54476 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ta for reply leemperor.... huh, I didn't get that. I might give removing all the MS crud and putting it in again another try. Did you already have the MS stuff installed when you installed SP2 leemperor?

03-29-2004, 15:20	#5
leemperor Crazy Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sheffield, UK Age: 28 Posts: 51 Member: 44457 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I did a fresh install from an XP CD with SP1 slipstreamed into it. Then I installed SP2. Didn't have any other patched installed before I installed SP2 call me Jon if you like, its shorter

03-31-2004, 02:11	#6
alexwu Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1 Member: 60538 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've just installed windows XP SP2, but you said that "The SP2 driver includes a "Nokia PC Suite" servic", I could not found where the service was. Please tell me how to use "Nokia PC suite" service . Thank you!

04-01-2004, 15:05	#8
leemperor Crazy Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sheffield, UK Age: 28 Posts: 51 Member: 44457 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have a 6310i and after the MS XP SP2 drivers found the phone they offered me a "Nokia PC Suite" service. I already had PC Suite installed.

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Rooter Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 24 Posts: 3 Member: 55699 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Download link please .........

06-21-2004, 16:17	#10
Senior Freak Poster Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 135 Member: 8 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nokia PC Suite: www.nokia.com MS XP SP2: www.microsoft.com BR