The STUPIDIEST Move Of THE YEAR ! - GSM-Forum

**Brka** · 01-30-2000, 06:20

Well,
this is the MOST STUPID move of the year ...
In a month or TWO, NOBODY will
be able to unlock ANY next Version of ANY Nokia Phone ....

However ... this is the
preliminar move .....

And I would like to know what FOOL is the
ONE responsible for this ....
I would like to tell him
to f*** off ! for this ....

you ALL know very very good
what am I talking about.

b.r.
Alex.

garnett · 01-30-2000, 09:05

hey alex,

don't you think you are a little bit selfish here? You want the software only for you and not shared among all the people all over the world?

you might be right that in 1 or 2 months new version will come out, but again geniuses around the world will be able to find solution for this. Remember how easy it is before to unlock 5110v522 and then comes 5110v524 where we are stuck for 1 or 2 months.

If that someone, who you called FOOL, pays or get the software is willing to share among people all over the world, then that's his decision, none of your business!

What can be locked can be unlocked!

This is NOT the STUPIDIEST MOVE OF THE YEAR BUT you certainly made the STUPIDIEST COMMENT OF THE YEAR!

SFlood · 01-30-2000, 09:37

Maybe next step is flashing using pirate methods? If so, anybody will downgrage software version and unlock.

MC · 01-30-2000, 11:45

BRKA u are right 100% , but u Garnett not
right .
Garnett u are looking software for 1month
or more then one time smb come to forum at
first and he will get all soft which he
need for FREE , WE DON'T ASK FOR MONEY ,ONLY
TRADE ... After that men getting soft will
give this soft to everybody , cause he don't
know how it's difficult to find 100% working
soft...... Ok Garnett if u right.....ASK
BONTEK and GRIS and VirtualM to give
soft to everybody for FREE...........OK?
U give software for free Garnett ,but ask
him new soft , he will give U . NO .

The STUPIDIEST Move Of THE YEAR !
Brka I want to tell F*** that man ho do it!

Regards . [email protected]

garnett · 01-30-2000, 18:47

MC: It seems to me that since Don Kasey is giving out software for free, nobody wants to trade with you anymore... so this really pisses you off!!! hahaha... everybody is getting software for free and you still want to trade your soft??? hahaha... that makes you the Stupidiest Person Of The Year

X-Shadow · 01-30-2000, 19:28

To Garnett:

I am not against you man, but I guess you are missing the point...

Now that soft is realesed to public, many may be happy this week, but many will also look stupid when next software versions will be released by Nokia.

And then, many will again wait for a few months or so for new soft to come out which will only be useful for a week or so...

Atleast with traders, circulation of soft is regulated and new soft can be useful for months or so without Nokia changing versions.

It may be good that "the Great Z" released soft to public, but it is very harmful to GSM hacking industry. It is like Micro$oft making very useful programs, but killing small companies in the process. Atleast with Micro$oft, we know they are here to stay, but for GSM hacking industry are we sure that "the Great Z" will still continue making very useful working GSM toolz? Sure many other programmers can help, but if you think about it, who has contributed most to gsm hacking industry?

I am that you have soft man

But I am sad that Nokia will make it even more harder next time

I just hope others can still help :|

Best Regards and no offense,

X-Shadow

garnett · 01-30-2000, 20:10

I don't think I am missing the point.
Maybe it's just your approach to the whole thing is self-interest driven.
If this software sticks to only few people (traders/sellers) then only a few will benefit, it is true it will take nokia a longer time to come up with new versions, but the rest of the public will not benefit. Ask yourself when you start in this gsm unlocking world. What did you start with? If say you have nothing and I wouldn't want to give you anything but trade only, how could you advance? By the time you get working software, the phone versions will be way ahead of you.
I know how you and the other guys feel, this sudden release to the public spoiled your chance to get something new/big/profitable/rare software for yourself, but if you are thinking on a more general scope. You know the right thing to do is to share blessings to everyone.

your point on microsoft is true but it doesn't connect to what we are discussing here.

When that software was written (month ago), don't you think that nokia has already know all about it? Don't you think that they are constantly looking for newer and more difficult way to unlock? Don't you think that they do have the resources to hire the programmer of that great software and have him work for them?

Whether this software is spread on the net or not, nokia has already come up with the next versions to prevent unlocking. And it will be out soon. So enjoy these happy days while it is still here...

VirtualM · 01-30-2000, 22:40

Hi all,

I don't want to tell here who is wrong or not, just that nokia already release a new software version that can't be unlocked...

Regards
VirtualM

P.S. Brka please contact me on icq

**Brka** · 01-31-2000, 04:10

Hi,
I'm glad my topic started a lot of Polemics ...

However, it's tottaly Un-Important who was wrong, who was right ...
We have new Nokia's now ...
And Nobody will Unlock them now ...

Software for Unlocking ALL Locks on Nokia's Exists for almost 2 years ... and nobody knew about it ...

Why ?

Because Man who had it never wanted to sell / exchange it ...

From one point ... it's good, because NOBODY Knew about it, even Nokia itself, so they couldn't make new SW release that would be unlockable ....

From Other point ... It's BAD because only that man had a lot of business, and he earned a lot of money, keeping the software only for himself ... and he never wanted to tell the secret to anybody ....

think about all this ...
and then submit replies .......

And I personally dont like people which are in the GSM Unlocking business for Short time,
and ALL of those peepz are SHOUTING a lot ...
without reason, because ALL of them want ALL for Free ... and some people really Hardly worked for that ...

all comments are welcome ...
who is right and who is not ....

b.r.
Alex.
[email protected]

don · 01-31-2000, 06:49

To VirtualM,

all these phone types 5110, 3210, 6150 has new versions already?

yeah, it doesn't matter who is right or wrong, we cannot turn back time, the right thing to do now though is to come up with new solutions to unlock new versions... and I think, maybe in this forum (correct me if I am wroing), only VirtualM has the capabilities.

Don

Bert · 01-31-2000, 10:38

I'm not against somebody , I just want to say something , do you think spread the unlocker is good for you? and is that mean you'll be great?? do you know how many new programs we will be lost ( I don't want to talking about the money )??? there are too many chance we've lost!! that's so bad. I do the exchange never ask for money!the new program is our power. pls don't do the stupit thing again!

MC · 01-31-2000, 16:04

U know Garnett , all my interests in GSM
unlocking not only exchange soft ,

It was your fraise ? :
>hahaha... that makes you the Stupidiest >Person Of The Year !
U thinks so?

>, nobody wants to trade with you anymore.

U fall 100% man , I don't want to trade with
u.......... I have many soft which u don't
have...not for trade!

U wrote:
> Don Kasey is giving out software for free,

I DON'T THINK SO , Zulea giving out software for free!

DON KASEY HAS Motorola M3188 unlocker , ask
him for FREE!
-------------------
Now new Nokia's 5.27 - I can't unlock cause
some people give software to everybody for
FREE , and nokia made new lock-system!

Regards to all!

MyKe · 01-31-2000, 16:30

I´ll give you a tip: Write your own software for this new version and keep it under your pillow!!

Bert · 01-31-2000, 18:17

To MC
I totally agree with you man.

Bert · 01-31-2000, 18:17

To MC
I totally agree with you man.

01-30-2000, 06:20	#1 (permalink)
Brka Moderator Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Serbia Age: 48 Posts: 8,206 Member: 163 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 7,784	The STUPIDIEST Move Of THE YEAR ! Well, this is the MOST STUPID move of the year ... In a month or TWO, NOBODY will be able to unlock ANY next Version of ANY Nokia Phone .... However ... this is the preliminar move ..... And I would like to know what FOOL is the ONE responsible for this .... I would like to tell him to f* off ! for this .... you ALL know very very good what am I talking about. b.r. Alex. __________________ Always press THANKS button if my post was helpful! Please DO NOT send me PM's for help, You can ask for help on forum Do not post THANKS posts - use thanks button ! ALWAYS use SEARCH button before posting!**

01-31-2000, 04:10	#9 (permalink)
Brka Moderator Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Serbia Age: 48 Posts: 8,206 Member: 163 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 7,784	Hi, I'm glad my topic started a lot of Polemics ... However, it's tottaly Un-Important who was wrong, who was right ... We have new Nokia's now ... And Nobody will Unlock them now ... Software for Unlocking ALL Locks on Nokia's Exists for almost 2 years ... and nobody knew about it ... Why ? Because Man who had it never wanted to sell / exchange it ... From one point ... it's good, because NOBODY Knew about it, even Nokia itself, so they couldn't make new SW release that would be unlockable .... From Other point ... It's BAD because only that man had a lot of business, and he earned a lot of money, keeping the software only for himself ... and he never wanted to tell the secret to anybody .... think about all this ... and then submit replies ....... And I personally dont like people which are in the GSM Unlocking business for Short time, and ALL of those peepz are SHOUTING a lot ... without reason, because ALL of them want ALL for Free ... and some people really Hardly worked for that ... all comments are welcome ... who is right and who is not .... b.r. Alex. [email protected] __________________ Always press THANKS button if my post was helpful! Please DO NOT send me PM's for help, You can ask for help on forum Do not post THANKS posts - use thanks button ! ALWAYS use SEARCH button before posting!

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01-30-2000, 09:05	#2 (permalink)
garnett Junior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 16 Member: 800 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	hey alex, don't you think you are a little bit selfish here? You want the software only for you and not shared among all the people all over the world? you might be right that in 1 or 2 months new version will come out, but again geniuses around the world will be able to find solution for this. Remember how easy it is before to unlock 5110v522 and then comes 5110v524 where we are stuck for 1 or 2 months. If that someone, who you called FOOL, pays or get the software is willing to share among people all over the world, then that's his decision, none of your business! What can be locked can be unlocked! This is NOT the STUPIDIEST MOVE OF THE YEAR BUT you certainly made the STUPIDIEST COMMENT OF THE YEAR!

01-30-2000, 09:37	#3 (permalink)
SFlood No Life Poster Join Date: May 1999 Location: RU Posts: 906 Member: 83 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Maybe next step is flashing using pirate methods? If so, anybody will downgrage software version and unlock.

01-30-2000, 11:45	#4 (permalink)
MC Insane Poster Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: London Posts: 66 Member: 556 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	BRKA u are right 100% , but u Garnett not right . Garnett u are looking software for 1month or more then one time smb come to forum at first and he will get all soft which he need for FREE , WE DON'T ASK FOR MONEY ,ONLY TRADE ... After that men getting soft will give this soft to everybody , cause he don't know how it's difficult to find 100% working soft...... Ok Garnett if u right.....ASK BONTEK and GRIS and VirtualM to give soft to everybody for FREE...........OK? U give software for free Garnett ,but ask him new soft , he will give U . NO . The STUPIDIEST Move Of THE YEAR ! Brka I want to tell F*** that man ho do it! Regards . [email protected]

01-30-2000, 18:47	#5 (permalink)
garnett Junior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 16 Member: 800 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	MC: It seems to me that since Don Kasey is giving out software for free, nobody wants to trade with you anymore... so this really pisses you off!!! hahaha... everybody is getting software for free and you still want to trade your soft??? hahaha... that makes you the Stupidiest Person Of The Year

01-30-2000, 19:28	#6 (permalink)
X-Shadow No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: GSM Forum Posts: 1,108 Member: 871 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 602	To Garnett: I am not against you man, but I guess you are missing the point... Now that soft is realesed to public, many may be happy this week, but many will also look stupid when next software versions will be released by Nokia. And then, many will again wait for a few months or so for new soft to come out which will only be useful for a week or so... Atleast with traders, circulation of soft is regulated and new soft can be useful for months or so without Nokia changing versions. It may be good that "the Great Z" released soft to public, but it is very harmful to GSM hacking industry. It is like Micro$oft making very useful programs, but killing small companies in the process. Atleast with Micro$oft, we know they are here to stay, but for GSM hacking industry are we sure that "the Great Z" will still continue making very useful working GSM toolz? Sure many other programmers can help, but if you think about it, who has contributed most to gsm hacking industry? I am that you have soft man But I am sad that Nokia will make it even more harder next time I just hope others can still help :\| Best Regards and no offense, X-Shadow

01-30-2000, 20:10	#7 (permalink)
garnett Junior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 16 Member: 800 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I don't think I am missing the point. Maybe it's just your approach to the whole thing is self-interest driven. If this software sticks to only few people (traders/sellers) then only a few will benefit, it is true it will take nokia a longer time to come up with new versions, but the rest of the public will not benefit. Ask yourself when you start in this gsm unlocking world. What did you start with? If say you have nothing and I wouldn't want to give you anything but trade only, how could you advance? By the time you get working software, the phone versions will be way ahead of you. I know how you and the other guys feel, this sudden release to the public spoiled your chance to get something new/big/profitable/rare software for yourself, but if you are thinking on a more general scope. You know the right thing to do is to share blessings to everyone. your point on microsoft is true but it doesn't connect to what we are discussing here. When that software was written (month ago), don't you think that nokia has already know all about it? Don't you think that they are constantly looking for newer and more difficult way to unlock? Don't you think that they do have the resources to hire the programmer of that great software and have him work for them? Whether this software is spread on the net or not, nokia has already come up with the next versions to prevent unlocking. And it will be out soon. So enjoy these happy days while it is still here...

01-30-2000, 22:40	#8 (permalink)
VirtualM Insane Poster Join Date: May 1999 Location: Virtual Reality Posts: 83 Member: 54 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Hi all, I don't want to tell here who is wrong or not, just that nokia already release a new software version that can't be unlocked... Regards VirtualM P.S. Brka please contact me on icq

01-31-2000, 06:49	#10 (permalink)
don Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: ALGERIA Age: 44 Posts: 34 Member: 765 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	To VirtualM, all these phone types 5110, 3210, 6150 has new versions already? yeah, it doesn't matter who is right or wrong, we cannot turn back time, the right thing to do now though is to come up with new solutions to unlock new versions... and I think, maybe in this forum (correct me if I am wroing), only VirtualM has the capabilities. Don

01-31-2000, 10:38	#11 (permalink)
Bert No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,509 Member: 596 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.33096 Thanks Meter: 514	I'm not against somebody , I just want to say something , do you think spread the unlocker is good for you? and is that mean you'll be great?? do you know how many new programs we will be lost ( I don't want to talking about the money )??? there are too many chance we've lost!! that's so bad. I do the exchange never ask for money!the new program is our power. pls don't do the stupit thing again!

01-31-2000, 16:04	#12 (permalink)
MC Insane Poster Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: London Posts: 66 Member: 556 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	U know Garnett , all my interests in GSM unlocking not only exchange soft , It was your fraise ? : >hahaha... that makes you the Stupidiest >Person Of The Year ! U thinks so? >, nobody wants to trade with you anymore. U fall 100% man , I don't want to trade with u.......... I have many soft which u don't have...not for trade! U wrote: > Don Kasey is giving out software for free, I DON'T THINK SO , Zulea giving out software for free! DON KASEY HAS Motorola M3188 unlocker , ask him for FREE! ------------------- Now new Nokia's 5.27 - I can't unlock cause some people give software to everybody for FREE , and nokia made new lock-system! Regards to all!

01-31-2000, 16:30	#13 (permalink)
MyKe Freak Poster Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 258 Member: 508 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4	I´ll give you a tip: Write your own software for this new version and keep it under your pillow!!

01-31-2000, 18:17	#14 (permalink)
Bert No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,509 Member: 596 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.33096 Thanks Meter: 514	To MC I totally agree with you man.

01-31-2000, 18:17	#15 (permalink)
Bert No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,509 Member: 596 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.33096 Thanks Meter: 514	To MC I totally agree with you man.