UFS TORNADO Killed my 4 pcs of 6230 v3.10 - GSM-Forum

beggar · 06-10-2004, 13:12

Detected: V 03.15 17-03-04 RH-12 GSM P1.1 (c) NMP.
1st Boot Err: Bad Resp UPP, 03 00 00 72
Process Failed, Repowering Mobile

---------
After this message phone never power on.

This is the o/p message after trying to flash 6230. Don't think cable is bad as I flashed 100 pcs out of which 4 pcs gone dead. I connected 4 UFS boxes to my single PC and using v12p.

What to do this case, how can I use UFS to flash 6230. I didn't check ini file.

eko · 06-10-2004, 13:21

From the post you have here , ufs did not even communicate with your phone, as you can see 1st boot error

Raklm · 06-10-2004, 13:29

how u killed this phones without comunication??

BR
Rak|m

MicrostarGSM® · 06-10-2004, 13:50

for your information there is new versio release for this 6230 which is 3.17

beggar · 06-11-2004, 03:01

I was only flashing PPM file ('c').
I used UFS version 12p. UFS didn't communicate with 4 of these phones, I agree. But these were working phones before sniffed by UFS. So I am verymuch afraid of using this great software.

Or is there any SAFE test to verify that USF is going to kill or flash my phone. Say connect and run a phone info test. I don't know this can also kill my phone. But is wasting my time.

Thanks for the response.

to : MicrostarGSM®
I am sorry it was 6230 v3.15 itself. I wrongly written as v3.10

Thanks for the response.

MicrostarGSM® · 06-11-2004, 05:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by beggar

I was only flashing PPM file ('c').
I used UFS version 12p. UFS didn't communicate with 4 of these phones, I agree. But these were working phones before sniffed by UFS. So I am verymuch afraid of using this great software.

Or is there any SAFE test to verify that USF is going to kill or flash my phone. Say connect and run a phone info test. I don't know this can also kill my phone. But is wasting my time.

Thanks for the response.

to : MicrostarGSM®
I am sorry it was 6230 v3.15 itself. I wrongly written as v3.10

Thanks for the response.

what you do now is.. write mcu & ppm and content pack
and try use flash and not use the start button

SFlood · 06-11-2004, 06:38

Maybe some phones could be electrically damaged by hi-voltage interface of ufs2 ? (3.3v instead of 2.7v)...
IO voltage for Nokias is 2.78v and 3.0v is the maximum limit for fbus/mbus lines.
I know all is working OK with 3.3v, but maybe sometimes it matters?

Raklm · 06-11-2004, 08:59

maybe

sad

where can I download v3.17?

BR
Rak|m

Imran_Khatri · 06-11-2004, 09:47

Check your cable and plug it to phone correctly, and first check info about mobile and then falsh uor phone, it will be right,

Bph&co · 06-11-2004, 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFlood

Maybe some phones could be electrically damaged by hi-voltage interface of ufs2 ? (3.3v instead of 2.7v)...
IO voltage for Nokias is 2.78v and 3.0v is the maximum limit for fbus/mbus lines.
I know all is working OK with 3.3v, but maybe sometimes it matters?

Actually is 5V they use( here , check RJ1 on CON10, supplied by Q1/Q1/Q3).

But usually only the BSI line is sensitive to overloading and is most likely
reason for this problem.

BR

CyberKareca · 06-11-2004, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicrostarGSM®

for your information there is new versio release for this 6230 which is 3.17

In Nokia Partner Site for europe the last version is 3.15

SFlood · 06-11-2004, 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bph&co

Actually is 5V they use( here , check RJ1 on CON10, supplied by Q1/Q1/Q3).

But usually only the BSI line is sensitive to overloading and is most likely
reason for this problem.

BR

I think its around 4.3-4.6V on RJ1 with this scheme, but i think its really ugly part of schematics. I think its made to lower cost of boxes or for removing rare KF33 part.

Freestyler2000 · 06-11-2004, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFlood

I think its around 4.3-4.6V on RJ1 with this scheme, but i think its really ugly part of schematics. I think its made to lower cost of boxes or for removing rare KF33 part.

The KF33 part is as replacement for the transistor group.
It is simple voltage regulator to arround 3.9 V - same used in Prodigy.

The output of the transistor group is 4.9 V without Load, and input USB power
supply at 4.95 V

I am not sure exactly what killed the phones here, but this is the data i give
here from the origianl Twister we have.

BR
Daniel

Aamir_Zia · 06-11-2004, 23:06

try with Other Flashers !!!

like Griffin or Neelix 3

beggar · 06-12-2004, 02:50

I don't have the phones right now. It is going to come back to me for repair in a week. I spent money on USB and I can't just forget it. I try to recover the life of those phones.

But regarding the voltage values given and the probable reasons, it must be concerned while making the connectors. If required they must make connectors with suitable resistors to get correct voltage across the phone.

See, I have no problem with 6600 flashing on UFS. UFS can flash those 6600 which fail to flash using Griffin. I flashed 200 pcs of 6600 using UFS, not a single one got problem. So the the problem may be with the connectos of the 6230.

Thanks for the response

06-10-2004, 13:12	#1 (permalink)
beggar Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Age: 54 Posts: 28 Member: 66257 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	UFS TORNADO Killed my 4 pcs of 6230 v3.10 Detected: V 03.15 17-03-04 RH-12 GSM P1.1 (c) NMP. 1st Boot Err: Bad Resp UPP, 03 00 00 72 Process Failed, Repowering Mobile --------- After this message phone never power on. This is the o/p message after trying to flash 6230. Don't think cable is bad as I flashed 100 pcs out of which 4 pcs gone dead. I connected 4 UFS boxes to my single PC and using v12p. What to do this case, how can I use UFS to flash 6230. I didn't check ini file.

06-11-2004, 03:01	#5 (permalink)
beggar Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Age: 54 Posts: 28 Member: 66257 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Raklm I was only flashing PPM file ('c'). I used UFS version 12p. UFS didn't communicate with 4 of these phones, I agree. But these were working phones before sniffed by UFS. So I am verymuch afraid of using this great software. Or is there any SAFE test to verify that USF is going to kill or flash my phone. Say connect and run a phone info test. I don't know this can also kill my phone. But is wasting my time. Thanks for the response. to : MicrostarGSM® I am sorry it was 6230 v3.15 itself. I wrongly written as v3.10 Thanks for the response. Last edited by beggar; 06-11-2004 at 03:12.

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Imran_Khatri No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pakistan Age: 42 Posts: 1,416 Member: 56561 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.114006 Thanks Meter: 41	hmmm Check your cable and plug it to phone correctly, and first check info about mobile and then falsh uor phone, it will be right,

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eko No Life Poster Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,323 Member: 30098 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 29	From the post you have here , ufs did not even communicate with your phone, as you can see 1st boot error

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Raklm No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Roma Age: 49 Posts: 4,481 Member: 5926 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 275	how u killed this phones without comunication?? BR Rak\|m

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06-12-2004, 02:50	#15 (permalink)
beggar Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Age: 54 Posts: 28 Member: 66257 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I don't have the phones right now. It is going to come back to me for repair in a week. I spent money on USB and I can't just forget it. I try to recover the life of those phones. But regarding the voltage values given and the probable reasons, it must be concerned while making the connectors. If required they must make connectors with suitable resistors to get correct voltage across the phone. See, I have no problem with 6600 flashing on UFS. UFS can flash those 6600 which fail to flash using Griffin. I flashed 200 pcs of 6600 using UFS, not a single one got problem. So the the problem may be with the connectos of the 6230. Thanks for the response