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Old 09-07-2004, 08:21   #31 (permalink)
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Thing are stating to get confused here:

What memory can have such an smart card to keep few phone user data backups 1-2 Mb? What about Symbian phones with huge user data ?
No chance.
And nothe that Smart card has also limited valability.

Smartcard will not do any things except security function to calc some sec data.

Luciano

Maybee that is the reason they didnt implant it The time fps-8 came, only 9210 symbian phone, but has "big" memory card
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Old 09-07-2004, 09:36   #32 (permalink)
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No trick, the problem is such an project it is really complicated and if is developed by an single person it will take a long time.
He had to extract & debug all FLS function algorithm and to implement in another HW and of course to maintain compatibility with Ph & Wt sw.
Imagine only to test, and after this to manufacture....

Luciano
Hi,

FLS4 code was extracted even before first 3th party flasher come out on the
market. Two years and a half is too much for any development and this is
the usual time Nokia changes algorithms and stuff.

So i guess its just time for a change, just see the number of DCT4 flashers
out there, and don't mention the code calculators, the only place i don't
see it is my microwave, but that probably because is not Java compatible

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Old 09-07-2004, 11:19   #33 (permalink)
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Hi,

FLS4 code was extracted even before first 3th party flasher come out on the
market. Two years and a half is too much for any development and this is
the usual time Nokia changes algorithms and stuff.

So i guess its just time for a change, just see the number of DCT4 flashers
out there, and don't mention the code calculators, the only place i don't
see it is my microwave, but that probably because is not Java compatible

BR
YOUR TEAM and others stay 2,5 years with FLS4 extracted HEX and can do NOTHING with this, even if all who have for more than 2 years this HEX (and Prodigy team had it long time before too) was not able to do nothing with this.

I received the HEX at the beginning of this summer (~3 months ago) and the prototype is ready. I have to manage only a real fast and quality production.

I will not enter here in technical details why YOU can not do anymore with this HEX (even I'm sure YOU was VEEEEEERY interested in producing FLS4 clones), but I will ask a simple question: What's your technical skills?

And now come here and make some 'noise' about future.
BUT, did you know than ANY original Nokia hardware still support the platform for who was made?
E.g.
FLS1/2 - can flash ANY DCT3 (including latest releases) and work with ANY original software made by Nokia for DCT3 platform (Wintesla, Winlock)
FLS4 - can flash ANY DCT3 and DCT4 and work with ANY original software made by Nokia for DCT3 and DCT4 platforms (Wintesla, Winlock, Phoenix).

So, did you hear anything about DCT5 yet?
Oh, and I'm sure all your 3rd party tools will support DCT5 in just few days update Dream on, baby ....

So, please stop making 'nonsense noises' because after I will manage production for FLS4 clones will have enough free time .... and maybe I will make some research about your system for transform clones Prodigy into original ones. Are you sure you are prepaired to have me as an enemy? Ah, and forget, I also speak same native language with Raskal

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Zulea

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Old 09-07-2004, 11:37   #34 (permalink)
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Some people talk other work.

No need Zulea, just ignore them, you'r product when will be finished will be a HIT.

Best regards
Luciano
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Old 09-07-2004, 11:54   #35 (permalink)
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Zulea:

Calm down man

I am not making noise. When you release your device i will strongly recommend
to everyone to buy it, so don't worry.

Regarding us wanting to make FLS4 clones, be sure i don't for simple reasons,
i think is not that difficult to understand.

What makes you think that i am affraid of you or Raskal ? Yes please, be my
enemy !

BR
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Old 09-07-2004, 12:11   #36 (permalink)
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hey guys, dont start arguing, this is not playground like in some previous cases, zulea means serious stuff, only the seniors here knows what can come out from him, the others are too much regarding at DIV experience

Bphreaks, am i wrong?
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Old 09-07-2004, 14:01   #37 (permalink)
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Bphreaks, am i wrong?
Yes Daniel is very capable guy, i am sure he will bring what he promised.

I can't see why he has problem of me expressing my opinion. First he was
angry that i had doubts of him protecting FLS4 clone, now when everyone
spreads rumours about changes in Nokia stuff, he is angry that i have expressed
them publicly. Thats why they are rumours - no one knows what will come
for sure and speculates.

The same time i remember when Prodigy was cracked, Daniel posted very
nasty description of our protection and we didn't argue or express any
complaints. Why should be any different now ?

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well, i also hope to see the so called DCT5 coming very soon, but who knows...

would be very nice to take again the codes business in hands like many of us did 2 years ago (oh boy, that was so good;-))

about Daniel, well, what you write in a forum or email is not read with the same mind very often

what i mean is just to not start arguing between the last peopple who hardly try to make a real business in that sh.it we live all day...

and bphreaks, i still waiting for you on icq;-)
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Yes please, be my
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BR
OK, let's start a little bit
Some 'more than nasty' explanation and details will come about your tool.
Also, not hard for me to give free support, with 'next day free hex' after each of your update.

Have a nice day,
Zulea
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Mister Zulea,

Plse don' t play this stupid game.

You have nothing to prove.

Br,
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Question Work and we are waiting

War or peace?
It's not important.
We are waiting for it.

All big brothers needn't waste time here to argue.
Make new projects, and all will be happy.

BR
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OK, let's start a little bit
Some 'more than nasty' explanation and details will come about your tool.
Also, not hard for me to give free support, with 'next day free hex' after each of your update.

Have a nice day,
Zulea
Well it's up to you.

I am born for this

I can't promise anyting at the moment, you might change your mind and put
3 instead of 1 card. Time will only tell.

Have a nice day too,
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I dont think it should get to this afterall, your initial exchanges has been more of technicality than politics... and we are all enjoying your discuss.. please and please you should all calm down and let this wonderful solution come into the market..

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well, i also hope to see the so called DCT5 coming very soon, but who knows...

would be very nice to take again the codes business in hands like many of us did 2 years ago (oh boy, that was so good;-))
Nokia is constantly blacklisting Box-SNs of DCT4 faster than ever before...
My first original (from ONE 32836) was blacklisted after only 2 months, because of the kids like Mr. Wolfman *g*

This is no problem for me, as I am using original ones now.

I cannot discuss here much, because I am by way not as skilled as anyone of you guys (Zulea, bph, ...) - but I think I am more skilled than those other calculator/shell kiddies...

I just wonder, why the AT89C4051 progmem of Calc4DCT4 was not free 2 months after release of that crappy dongle, since free HEXes are now being released/exchanged faster than ever.
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Hi, last thing we need is another battle breaking out on another side...

Was nice to have a little "alliance" if you can call it that against the "Raskal Coalition"

Yes every body has big balls here and can walk away smiling broadly, legs sagging due to their enormous weight on account of their shear size and density.

@Alex, from the previous thread in regards to Hawaii unfortunately it's out of the question for now

One Prodigy customer who uses official Nokia equipment in their service center prefers to use Prodigy outside of this. They have to use original equipment at work due to obvious reasons...

Everyones got their own choice of what to use at the end of the day...

good luck to all
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