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Alpha Black Box · 10-23-2004, 07:25

no, OTP device, you have to change it or claculate making use of the some blank bits

Bi0H4z4rD · 10-25-2004, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberKareca

Well it seems someone agree with me

BR
CyberKareca

I didnt say it was otp 100%, i just said that if it was otp, it couldnt be changed. but if you say its not otp, then of course there may be a way of changing it. im talking about electronics, not sw or nokia itself, and was just saying that OTP cannot be reprogrammed, just that

BR

HONGXING · 10-26-2004, 21:47

Maybe someone can try this:

Unsolder UEM from phone and put it under X-Ray radiation.
X-Ray penetrates plastic package and resets memory cells.

(OTP PICs can be erased like this, because OTP PICs are not based
on fuse PROM, but is is just EPROM in plastic package instead of ceramic package and
without quartz windows to erase)

Fuse PROM is almost never used today, most OTP devices are just either protected
by security bits (called "fuses") or EPROM without erase possibility.

If UEM is EPROM-based, it should be erased by X-Ray radiation.
If it is EEPROM/Flash based, then there is no possibility to erase it using this method.

NBG · 10-27-2004, 03:09

I must say something about UEMs,I have a few times phone from customers which has work but they bring me as they said get locked.Imei was question marks.Bad Uem?No.I have put rpl (both imei and flash data) and phone works.
imei was changed of course.
Im very sure that phones are not been in any service and uem has not be changed.Somehow UEMs have been reseted.Since that experiences Im sure that some kind of reset UEM exists and Im sure that somebody already knows for that but logs are big money today.

vule · 10-28-2004, 19:36

@NBG I did it with one 6100... Imei was ?????????????? but after randomly chosen rpl it got back to normal... I did it only once and with A8 or A9 phoenix... Tried again with 8310 and 3510 but no success... Crazy story to believe but it happened

BR

Vule

willy · 10-28-2004, 22:00

i going to close this topic soon !
becasue title is cloned FLS4, and you guys keep on talk different thing !

Willy

sale · 10-30-2004, 21:45

8310 was repaired with griffin :imei ??????????? and random chosen imei with number close to imei on tehe back of phone...and phone works ok...

sale · 10-30-2004, 21:46

but man topic was:new pkd dongle for fls4 works or not and where to find it???

benguetcowboy1 · 11-12-2004, 15:15

So, please stop making 'nonsense noises' because after I will manage production for FLS4 clones will have enough free time .... and maybe I will make some research about your system for transform clones Prodigy into original ones. Are you sure you are prepaired to have me as an enemy? Ah, and forget, I also speak same native language with Raskal

hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe!!!!!! !!!!

fajar_kader · 12-30-2005, 17:10

Again Cheated Pbb Customer's.. Stopped Support For "pbb Se" "pbb Nec" "pbb Alcatel"
Again Few Day's May Be The Chapter " Pbb " Will Be Closed......

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10-23-2004, 07:25	#106 (permalink)
Alpha Black Box Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Alpha-BlackBox.Org Age: 54 Posts: 6 Member: 83495 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	no, OTP device, you have to change it or claculate making use of the some blank bits

10-26-2004, 21:47	#108 (permalink)
HONGXING No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Inside 8250 UART and 8086 CPU ;-) Posts: 1,024 Member: 33079 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Maybe someone can try this: Unsolder UEM from phone and put it under X-Ray radiation. X-Ray penetrates plastic package and resets memory cells. (OTP PICs can be erased like this, because OTP PICs are not based on fuse PROM, but is is just EPROM in plastic package instead of ceramic package and without quartz windows to erase) Fuse PROM is almost never used today, most OTP devices are just either protected by security bits (called "fuses") or EPROM without erase possibility. If UEM is EPROM-based, it should be erased by X-Ray radiation. If it is EEPROM/Flash based, then there is no possibility to erase it using this method.

10-27-2004, 03:09	#109 (permalink)
NBG Freak Poster Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Beograd,Serbia Age: 54 Posts: 451 Member: 3101 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 6	I must say something about UEMs,I have a few times phone from customers which has work but they bring me as they said get locked.Imei was question marks.Bad Uem?No.I have put rpl (both imei and flash data) and phone works. imei was changed of course. Im very sure that phones are not been in any service and uem has not be changed.Somehow UEMs have been reseted.Since that experiences Im sure that some kind of reset UEM exists and Im sure that somebody already knows for that but logs are big money today.

10-28-2004, 19:36	#110 (permalink)
vule No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Radiometer Medical ApSBrønshøj Age: 51 Posts: 721 Member: 10854 Status: Offline Sonork: 1578988 Thanks Meter: 3	@NBG I did it with one 6100... Imei was ?????????????? but after randomly chosen rpl it got back to normal... I did it only once and with A8 or A9 phoenix... Tried again with 8310 and 3510 but no success... Crazy story to believe but it happened BR Vule

10-28-2004, 22:00	#111 (permalink)
willy No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: inside NOKIA phone Age: 58 Posts: 1,677 Member: 1060 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 10	i going to close this topic soon ! becasue title is cloned FLS4, and you guys keep on talk different thing ! Willy

10-30-2004, 21:45	#112 (permalink)
sale No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,649 Member: 24435 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4	8310 was repaired with griffin :imei ??????????? and random chosen imei with number close to imei on tehe back of phone...and phone works ok...

10-30-2004, 21:46	#113 (permalink)
sale No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,649 Member: 24435 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4	but man topic was:new pkd dongle for fls4 works or not and where to find it???

11-12-2004, 15:15	#114 (permalink)
benguetcowboy1 No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Baguio_City;Ph @ DrunkenMaster Age: 44 Posts: 1,916 Member: 51716 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1594676 Thanks Meter: 217	So, please stop making 'nonsense noises' because after I will manage production for FLS4 clones will have enough free time .... and maybe I will make some research about your system for transform clones Prodigy into original ones. Are you sure you are prepaired to have me as an enemy? Ah, and forget, I also speak same native language with Raskal hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe!!!!!! !!!!

12-30-2005, 17:10	#115 (permalink)
fajar_kader Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 147 Member: 59382 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Again Cheated Pbb Customer's.. Stopped Support For "pbb Se" "pbb Nec" "pbb Alcatel" Again Few Day's May Be The Chapter " Pbb " Will Be Closed......