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virtue 10-09-2007 19:50

N70 LCD EMIF Z4403 line broken
 
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hi...

dear Sirs,

i have accidentally make the EMIF Z4403 line broken when trying to make it clean from left off lead, before applying new EMIF.... there is suppossed to be 25 dots representing the line

Now i have lost dots no 09 and 19, according to the EMIF diagram here...

does anyone know how to make jumper for the broken line?

i will very gratefull for your help,

thanks in advance

kannan_fono 10-09-2007 22:17

practically its impossible to connect the track to OMAP.

virtue 10-10-2007 08:58

:( is there any test point left on the board to jumper on?

mobilagy 10-10-2007 12:33

Man, just mount the new filters that you were doing & then give it a try & i'm bit sure it will work; there's a lot free pins with these filters & it's which mostly gets off board, just give it a try & you will not regret, i have faced such same problems & was as i told, B.R ...

virtue 10-22-2007 14:33

i already try mounting the new filters but there were still no good display on LCD....
please anyone who have encounter the same problem give advice

thanks mate

quickgsm 10-22-2007 15:12

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Originally Posted by virtue (Post 2781617)
hi...

dear Sirs,

i have accidentally make the EMIF Z4403 line broken when trying to make it clean from left off lead, before applying new EMIF.... there is suppossed to be 25 dots representing the line

Now i have lost dots no 09 and 19, according to the EMIF diagram here...

does anyone know how to make jumper for the broken line?

i will very gratefull for your help,

thanks in advance



Good work thx for sharing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


br taoufik

xtremeburaq 10-22-2007 17:12

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Originally Posted by virtue (Post 2781617)
hi...

dear Sirs,

i have accidentally make the EMIF Z4403 line broken when trying to make it clean from left off lead, before applying new EMIF.... there is suppossed to be 25 dots representing the line

Now i have lost dots no 09 and 19, according to the EMIF diagram here...

does anyone know how to make jumper for the broken line?

i will very gratefull for your help,

thanks in advance

ACCORDING TO MY KNOWLEDGE THESE TWO DOTS ARE NC .FIX A NEW ONE EMI UR PROBLEM WILL BE SOLVE & BE ALWAYS CONFIDENT IN UR WORK.POSSIBILITY DURING REMOVING & REFIXING Z4403 SOME DAMAGE OCCURED IN Z4402.NOW U HAVE TO CHANGE BOTH FILTERS.

reji 10-22-2007 17:54

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Originally Posted by xtremeburaq (Post 2812113)
ACCORDING TO MY KNOWLEDGE THESE TWO DOTS ARE NC .FIX A NEW ONE EMI UR PROBLEM WILL BE SOLVE & BE ALWAYS CONFIDENT IN UR WORK.POSSIBILITY DURING REMOVING & REFIXING Z4403 SOME DAMAGE OCCURED IN Z4402.NOW U HAVE TO CHANGE BOTH FILTERS.

no bro,

in both of the ic's these pins have connection.

r a nadeem 10-22-2007 22:23

dear in Z4403 pin 09-19 are empty , so change the both filters , prob will be solve
rashid

r a nadeem 10-22-2007 22:26

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Originally Posted by quickgsm (Post 2811795)
Good work thx for sharing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


br taoufik

dear read carefully before posting anything . thanks for what ? he has prob , he want help , you are say thanks.
rashid

reji 10-23-2007 14:32

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Originally Posted by r a nadeem (Post 2812714)
dear in Z4403 pin 09-19 are empty , so change the both filters , prob will be solve
rashid


bro,

in Z4402 and Z4403 the pins 9 and 19 have connections

r a nadeem 10-23-2007 20:18

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Originally Posted by reji (Post 2814343)
bro,

in Z4402 and Z4403 the pins 9 and 19 have connections

dear reji
i know you have knowledge , and appreciate your work , but read schematic. that is empty point i think , second we are only discussing , plz don't mind it . coz members want share with us . may this way they gain something. 3rd i did not criticized negatively . plz keep in mind
rashid

xtremeburaq 10-25-2007 20:28

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Originally Posted by reji (Post 2814343)
bro,

in Z4402 and Z4403 the pins 9 and 19 have connections

IT IS 7TH PRINT WHICH U SHOWN IN PIC

BE SENSIBLE, READ CAREFULLY SCHEMATIC U WILL FIND GOOD RESULT .IF U R NOT SATISFY WITH SCHEMATIC THEN U CAN CHECK IT BY URSELF BY REMOVUNG BOTH IC'S FROM THE BOARD AND THEN CHECK THE CONTINUITY FROM DISPLAY IC PRINTS TO THE DISPLAY CONNECTER .IF U FIND ANY CONNECTIVITY THEN POST UR RESULT HERE OTHERWISE CHECK BEFORE POSTING .HOPE U TAKE IT AS A POSTIVE .

a little ADVICE to a member means a BIG HELP to them...

reji 10-26-2007 13:46

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Originally Posted by xtremeburaq (Post 2820352)
IT IS 7TH PRINT WHICH U SHOWN IN PIC

BE SENSIBLE, READ CAREFULLY SCHEMATIC U WILL FIND GOOD RESULT .IF U R NOT SATISFY WITH SCHEMATIC THEN U CAN CHECK IT BY URSELF BY REMOVUNG BOTH IC'S FROM THE BOARD AND THEN CHECK THE CONTINUITY FROM DISPLAY IC PRINTS TO THE DISPLAY CONNECTER .IF U FIND ANY CONNECTIVITY THEN POST UR RESULT HERE OTHERWISE CHECK BEFORE POSTING .HOPE U TAKE IT AS A POSTIVE .

a little ADVICE to a member means a BIG HELP to them...

i checked many times, two diiferent boards,

i got this

xtremeburaq 10-26-2007 15:02

ok, checking procedure is correct but ur counting trick is wrong.we count it left to right.

hangout2511 10-26-2007 18:32

i think now only hope is use microscope and digg VERY LITTLE, VERY CAREFULLY .. its just positive try to do anything.. cuz now board is almost in SCRAP .. so there is nothing wrong to try in it.. just digg little with micro niddle and once u get any copper thing there just put very small ball with soldering iron..
GOOD LUCK

reji 10-26-2007 18:34

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Originally Posted by xtremeburaq (Post 2822303)
ok, checking procedure is correct but ur counting trick is wrong.we count it left to right.

i think this is the actual method. others for easy use.

r a nadeem 10-26-2007 23:51

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Mr Reji version Mr xtremeburaq ,both are right , they only confused , but say right . the pin 09 and 19 are connected , i have check carefully now . actual pic is this i think. check now , its connected .

xtremeburaq 10-27-2007 17:56

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Originally Posted by r a nadeem (Post 2823381)
Mr Reji version Mr xtremeburaq ,both are right , they only confused , but say right . the pin 09 and 19 are connected , i have check carefully now . actual pic is this i think. check now , its connected .

OK, U CHECKED IT CAREFULLY ,NOW SAY ME ONE THING THE CONNECTIONS WHICH U SHOWN IN PIC IS 7TH PIN CONNECTION OR 9TH PIN CONNECTION.AND ONE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IF IT IS REALLY 9TH ACCORDING TO U THEN IT IS WORKING CONNECTION .BUT I M NOT AGGREE WITH UR OPNION BECOZ IF WE CHECK IT BY COUNTIONG PROCEDURE THEN ITS IS 7TH PIN WHICH U SHOWN IN PIC 9TH .AND ALSO IF U CHECK THE SCHEMATIC THERE IS ALSO QUOTED 9TH PRINT IS NC. IF I M WRONG THEN PLEASE GUIDE ME WITH SUITABLE REASON.I EDIT REJI PIC NOW CHECK IT CAREFULLY .NOW U CAN EASILY UNDERSTAND WHICH IS 7TH AND WHICH IS 9TH.

UR'S TRUELY FRIEND XTREMEBURAQ.

xtremeburaq 10-27-2007 18:09

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Originally Posted by xtremeburaq (Post 2825062)
OK, U CHECKED IT CAREFULLY ,NOW SAY ME ONE THING THE CONNECTIONS WHICH U SHOWN IN PIC IS 7TH PIN CONNECTION OR 9TH PIN CONNECTION.AND ONE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IF IT IS REALLY 9TH ACCORDING TO U THEN IT IS WORKING CONNECTION .BUT I M NOT AGGREE WITH UR OPNION BECOZ IF WE CHECK IT BY COUNTIONG PROCEDURE THEN ITS IS 7TH PIN WHICH U SHOWN IN PIC 9TH .AND ALSO IF U CHECK THE SCHEMATIC THERE IS ALSO QUOTED 9TH PRINT IS NC. IF I M WRONG THEN PLEASE GUIDE ME WITH SUITABLE REASON.I EDIT REJI PIC NOW CHECK IT CAREFULLY .NOW U CAN EASILY UNDERSTAND WHICH IS 7TH AND WHICH IS 9TH.

UR'S TRUELY FRIEND XTREMEBURAQ.

IT IS BOARD PRINT CONFIGURATION

reji 10-27-2007 18:21

bro XTREMEBURAQ,

i think both of us have some wrong. when i check the DATA SHEET of the EMIF IC, i saw some difference. the manufacturer marked the pins as in an order of INPUT and OUTPUT.its like this O1, O2, O3.... and I1, I2, I3,.....
O1 is output1 and I1 is the input1.

r a nadeem 10-27-2007 20:11

OK, U CHECKED IT CAREFULLY ,NOW SAY ME ONE THING THE CONNECTIONS WHICH U SHOWN IN PIC IS 7TH PIN CONNECTION OR 9TH PIN CONNECTION.AND ONE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IF IT IS REALLY 9TH ACCORDING TO U THEN IT IS WORKING CONNECTION .BUT I M NOT AGGREE WITH UR OPNION BECOZ IF WE CHECK IT BY COUNTIONG PROCEDURE THEN ITS IS 7TH PIN WHICH U SHOWN IN PIC 9TH .AND ALSO IF U CHECK THE SCHEMATIC THERE IS ALSO QUOTED 9TH PRINT IS NC. IF I M WRONG THEN PLEASE GUIDE ME WITH SUITABLE REASON.I EDIT REJI PIC NOW CHECK IT CAREFULLY .NOW U CAN EASILY UNDERSTAND WHICH IS 7TH AND WHICH IS 9TH.

UR'S TRUELY FRIEND XTREMEBURAQ.[/quote]
dear XTREMEBURAQ ,
according to sequence of counting the pin 7th is marked data sheet pin O9
clear. the question is about this pin , that person asked about data sheet marked pin O9 and pin I19 .this is according to counting pin 7th . so you are absolutely right your side .check my modified pic above .according to your counting 7th pin is connected . and 9th pin is empty . thats only confusion of counting . its good share for members.
rashid

xtremeburaq 10-27-2007 20:46

NOW IT IS OUR HARD WORK WHICH GAVE US A RIGHT SOLUTION AFTER A LONG DISCUSSION.CHECK ALSO WHAT I WRITE,I DID NOT DISCUSS ABOUT IC PIN CONFIGURATION I DISCUSS ABOUT BOARD PIN CONFIGURATION .WHEN U SAY ME CHECK IT OUT DATASHEET THAT TIME I THOUGHT IT IS TOTALLY BASED ON CONFUSSION.

GREAT ADVICES FROM GREAT PERSONS. REJI & R A NADEEM.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i don't want you to thank me,thank our forum who gave us platform to share our ideas .........................................

reji 10-27-2007 20:59

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Originally Posted by xtremeburaq (Post 2825349)
NOW IT IS OUR HARD WORK WHICH GAVE US A RIGHT SOLUTION AFTER A LONG DISCUSSION.CHECK ALSO WHAT I WRITE,I DID NOT DISCUSS ABOUT IC PIN CONFIGURATION I DISCUSS ABOUT BOARD PIN CONFIGURATION .WHEN U SAY ME CHECK IT OUT DATASHEET THAT TIME I THOUGHT IT IS TOTALLY BASED ON CONFUSSION.

GREAT ADVICES FROM GREAT PERSONS. REJI & R A NADEEM.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i don't want you to thank me,thank our forum who gave us platform to share our ideas .........................................

yes bro, absolutely u r correct, thats the power of this FORUM.

CHEERS!!!!!!!!!!!

r a nadeem 10-28-2007 00:12

Thanks my brothers ,xtremeburaq,and reji
as i said above we are helping members with beneficial discussion.
Get Help, Help another people.so that the members can understand . we are not fighting , just discussion in different angles . so thanks for participation my both friends.
rashid

virtue 11-04-2007 00:41

ok i get all confused here... what i post in the first place was the pic from EMIF data sheet, so the way i count the pin according to the data sheet is different from the one in the N70 schematics?

so the EMIF pin line picture posted here was based on the schematics or emif data sheet?

thanks for being so helpfull :)
BR

yashtel 11-04-2007 08:23

thanks .

r a nadeem 11-04-2007 22:29

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Originally Posted by virtue (Post 2843209)
ok i get all confused here... what i post in the first place was the pic from EMIF data sheet, so the way i count the pin according to the data sheet is different from the one in the N70 schematics?

so the EMIF pin line picture posted here was based on the schematics or emif data sheet?

thanks for being so helpfull :)
BR

dear thats not according to schematic . its according to data sheet . you can get help by this useful discussion .
rashid

HUM 09-07-2009 23:36

very useful guide through this discussion

HUM 09-07-2009 23:41

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Originally Posted by r a nadeem (Post 2823381)
Mr Reji version Mr xtremeburaq ,both are right , they only confused , but say right . the pin 09 and 19 are connected , i have check carefully now . actual pic is this i think. check now , its connected .



these are pcb prints or display ics?

r a nadeem 09-08-2009 21:51

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Originally Posted by HUM (Post 4823097)
these are pcb prints or display ics?

N70 display ICs
Rashid Ahmed Nadeem

rale78 09-08-2009 23:23

Those pins are not connected. Bro put new ic or put jumpers it will work 100%. I have tryed by myself!
http://rapidshare.com/files/277437191/N70_LCD_WAYES.JPG


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