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vegeta · 03-30-2002, 19:14

could sum1 please send me the bounce ringtone for the 6210 because i badly need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanx!

X-Shadow · 03-31-2002, 01:24

All infomation stated below are my personal conclusions
derived from careful testing and experiments with many phones.
If you think that they are wrong, then they might be

I am currently using WinDDP 3.0 to add customized tones.
I don't know if this is applicable when using Flashtone.

Anyway, I was able to add 76 customized tones on a 5110 5.30.
If you want to add tones to phones with 'Recieved Tone' or
'Custom Tone' spaces, make sure that you don't go over the
maximum default tones in the PPM. For example in 3310, there
are 35 default tones. If you want to add customized tones in
the PPM, make sure you remove some of the default tones so
that after you are done modifying, there are still 35 tones in
the PPM! If you go beyond 35, for example you put 45 tones,
you will not be able to use your customized tones from the
composer or tones sent by logomanager! You can save these
tones to the EEPROM, but you cannot access them for use with
your profiles! I think this is so because the Index for the
customized tones are set at a given location (36, 37, 38 ...)
and if you put other tones in this location, you will not be
able to use it anymore!!!

The truth about 256 ringtones...
Yes you can add 256 tones to the PPM, but you cannot use the
256 tones altogether because your phone will only access around
62-76 tones depending on the length of your tones!!!
This happens I think because the phone only recognizes the
ringtones upto a given address, let us say only from 003576C0
up to 0035FFFF... Ringtones inserted beyond 0035FFFF will not
be accessed anymore

I think MCU does not limit the number
of tones in the phone so theorically, seeing 256 working tones
in your phone is possible if each of your tones are only 1 second
long! LOL

On PPM Packages (Euro and Asia)
Only Euro packages support actual names in ringtones, for asia
packages, the MCU assigns a default name 'Type 1', 'Type 2' for
each ringtones depending on their location. So if you try to add
Custom Ringtones to your ASIA PPM package, expect to get
garbage symbols when viewing the ringtone using your phone.
The MCU prevents actual tone names to be displayed!!!
So always use EURO packages for adding customized tones...

Ringtone Naming Convention
(This is my personal opinioin)
Each ringtone in the PPM is devided into 3 parts namely the
following:
1. INDEX - composed of 4 characters (pref. ALL CAPS)
2. Actual Name - composed of 13 characters
3. Actual Tone Code - The ringtone in .bin format

Example:

Ringtone BEE from 3310 Euro PPM:
..<_BEE.....Bee.........Z._....@.@[email protected]._.... @........

INDEX = ..<_BEE.....
..< Tone Header
_BEE Actual 4-char index
..... Trailing space after index (5 spaces)

Actual Name = Bee..........
Actual Tone Code = Z._....@.@[email protected]._....@........

Compare with Ringtone BEE rfom 3310 Asia PPM:
..<_BEE.................Z._....@.@[email protected]._.... @........

Notice there is no actual tone name in asia packages!!!

On finding Signal after Upload of PPM...
Their is a difference between Calculating Flash Authority ID, and
Setting Flash Authority ID. Calculate Flash Authority ID calculates
default PPM stored information assuming that they are correct
and are not changed! Setting Flash Authority ID calculates
actual PPM infomation! WinDLS and nk_calc and other programs
only "Calculates Authority ID", meaning it uses stored PPM
information and not the actual modified PPM information. WinDDP
version 2.60 and 3.0 "Sets Authority ID" meaning it calculates
from actual PPM information! Also I think TEK calculator can do this
but with a long process...

Compared to WinDDP 3.0, it is only
1 button click and your phone is ok

On changing message alert tones...
Do you really want to change message alert tones into ring tone
sounding tones??? Don't you find the Ascending Alert Tone or
even the Special Alert Tone annoying enough??? Hmmmm,,,,
well for those who want to be more annoying, yes it is possible!
But with a few restrictions... Message Alert tones on most DCT3
are set to a specific length in the MCU, thus making this very long
might affect the rest of the code below it! However, on some
DCT3 phones like 6210/50 and 7110, the message alert tones
are stored in the PPM for Standard, Special and Beep Once... but
I cannot find Ascending!!! Maybe it is still stuck in the MCU

Anyway, if you want to change your message alert tones in
6210/50 and 7110, all you have to do is remove the default
alert tones and insert ringtones with INDEXes and names as
follows:

Special Alert Tone:
Index = SMSS
Actual Name = Special

Standard Alert Tone:
Index: _SMS
Actual Name = Standard

Beep Once Alert Tone:
Index: BSMS
Actual Name = Beep Once

You can even change the Battery Empty Tone to a ringtone!!!

Recharge Battery Tone:
Index: BATR
Actual Name = ToneBattRe

Hope this information helps you guys!
Best Regards,
X-Shadow

masterross · 03-31-2002, 02:17

Thanks for your info

I've got some questions:

1. What is the max. lenght of one ringtone?
2. Can I type my indexes

thanks

Donci · 03-31-2002, 15:02

Hi All

Please Help me!

I try the ringtone changer & flashtone 2.02.

The ringtones is on the phone, but i can do anything not network.

LOgger do faidshell faid *******.
Please help me!!!!!!!

THX

Donci

Donci · 03-31-2002, 15:06

I tried 3330 4.50.

Pleae help me!

douda · 03-31-2002, 18:29

log calc not work with phones 3330 v 4.30 and 4.50
try to downlgrade

Donci · 04-01-2002, 15:43

Hi!

I downgrade the phone & working.

THX The help!!!!!

Ice Dragon · 04-01-2002, 16:27

Quote:

Originally posted by X-Shadow

However, on some
DCT3 phones like 6210/50 and 7110, the message alert tones
are stored in the PPM for Standard, Special and Beep Once... but
I cannot find Ascending!!! Maybe it is still stuck in the MCU

It's at the PPM, Ascending is named "Long loud".

Great article X-Shadow

TaRGa · 04-02-2002, 16:37

ý add ringtone's and update my flash but TEK log calculator didn't calculate the log why?

help me....

ý have 5110 V 5.30 B

thank u

DNewbies · 04-11-2002, 11:33

Can anyone help me please. I'm trying to change the ringtone for my 3310.But after flashing, I've got NO NETWORK and AUTO RESTART . I read that only tek faid calc will work. I've both FAID calculator using MBUS by tek and FAID******* by DAvieB. Can anyone kind enough to type out steps by steps instruction to do faid calc using eithe of this proggie? Thanks a million

blu90 · 04-11-2002, 16:35

Hi 2 all!
is there a software that can convert rttl format 2 *.re format? other than flash tone by icedragon?

Yolly Zubrick · 04-11-2002, 19:02

Quote:

Originally posted by blu90
Hi 2 all!
is there a software that can convert rttl format 2 *.re format? other than flash tone by icedragon?

Yes there is, checkout nfree.gsmsearch.com. Unfortunately the site is temporarily down because some group hacked their server.

blu90 · 04-12-2002, 20:05

thanks!
whats the name of the software and by who?

Abe · 04-13-2002, 09:03

Register to the group....nfree.org
and go to download section....
proggie is convert03.exe otr convert3.exe............

bisdak · 04-13-2002, 09:49

Can somebody tell me how to determine the number of ‘FF’ at the end of each tone.

03-31-2002, 02:17	#108 (permalink)
masterross No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 919 Member: 3506 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 6	@X-Shadow Thanks for your info I've got some questions: 1. What is the max. lenght of one ringtone? 2. Can I type my indexes thanks

03-31-2002, 15:02	#109 (permalink)
Donci Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hungary Posts: 27 Member: 9578 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	RIngtone change ?? Why not network?? Hi All Please Help me! I try the ringtone changer & flashtone 2.02. The ringtones is on the phone, but i can do anything not network. LOgger do faidshell faid *******. Please help me!!!!!!! THX Donci

03-31-2002, 15:06	#110 (permalink)
Donci Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hungary Posts: 27 Member: 9578 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Sorry I tried 3330 4.50. Pleae help me!

04-01-2002, 15:43	#112 (permalink)
Donci Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hungary Posts: 27 Member: 9578 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	THX Hi! I downgrade the phone & working. THX The help!!!!!

04-11-2002, 16:35	#116 (permalink)
blu90 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: philippines Posts: 20 Member: 9587 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	rttl to re format Hi 2 all! is there a software that can convert rttl format 2 *.re format? other than flash tone by icedragon?

03-30-2002, 19:14	#106 (permalink)
vegeta Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Huddersfield, UK Posts: 275 Member: 4850 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	could sum1 please send me the bounce ringtone for the 6210 because i badly need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanx!

03-31-2002, 01:24	#107 (permalink)
X-Shadow No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: GSM Forum Posts: 1,108 Member: 871 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 602	All infomation stated below are my personal conclusions derived from careful testing and experiments with many phones. If you think that they are wrong, then they might be I am currently using WinDDP 3.0 to add customized tones. I don't know if this is applicable when using Flashtone. Anyway, I was able to add 76 customized tones on a 5110 5.30. If you want to add tones to phones with 'Recieved Tone' or 'Custom Tone' spaces, make sure that you don't go over the maximum default tones in the PPM. For example in 3310, there are 35 default tones. If you want to add customized tones in the PPM, make sure you remove some of the default tones so that after you are done modifying, there are still 35 tones in the PPM! If you go beyond 35, for example you put 45 tones, you will not be able to use your customized tones from the composer or tones sent by logomanager! You can save these tones to the EEPROM, but you cannot access them for use with your profiles! I think this is so because the Index for the customized tones are set at a given location (36, 37, 38 ...) and if you put other tones in this location, you will not be able to use it anymore!!! The truth about 256 ringtones... Yes you can add 256 tones to the PPM, but you cannot use the 256 tones altogether because your phone will only access around 62-76 tones depending on the length of your tones!!! This happens I think because the phone only recognizes the ringtones upto a given address, let us say only from 003576C0 up to 0035FFFF... Ringtones inserted beyond 0035FFFF will not be accessed anymore I think MCU does not limit the number of tones in the phone so theorically, seeing 256 working tones in your phone is possible if each of your tones are only 1 second long! LOL On PPM Packages (Euro and Asia) Only Euro packages support actual names in ringtones, for asia packages, the MCU assigns a default name 'Type 1', 'Type 2' for each ringtones depending on their location. So if you try to add Custom Ringtones to your ASIA PPM package, expect to get garbage symbols when viewing the ringtone using your phone. The MCU prevents actual tone names to be displayed!!! So always use EURO packages for adding customized tones... Ringtone Naming Convention (This is my personal opinioin) Each ringtone in the PPM is devided into 3 parts namely the following: 1. INDEX - composed of 4 characters (pref. ALL CAPS) 2. Actual Name - composed of 13 characters 3. Actual Tone Code - The ringtone in .bin format Example: Ringtone BEE from 3310 Euro PPM: ..<_BEE.....Bee.........Z._....@.@[email protected]._.... @........ INDEX = ..<_BEE..... ..< Tone Header _BEE Actual 4-char index ..... Trailing space after index (5 spaces) Actual Name = Bee.......... Actual Tone Code = Z._....@.@[email protected]._....@........ Compare with Ringtone BEE rfom 3310 Asia PPM: ..<_BEE.................Z._....@.@[email protected]._.... @........ Notice there is no actual tone name in asia packages!!! On finding Signal after Upload of PPM... Their is a difference between Calculating Flash Authority ID, and Setting Flash Authority ID. Calculate Flash Authority ID calculates default PPM stored information assuming that they are correct and are not changed! Setting Flash Authority ID calculates actual PPM infomation! WinDLS and nk_calc and other programs only "Calculates Authority ID", meaning it uses stored PPM information and not the actual modified PPM information. WinDDP version 2.60 and 3.0 "Sets Authority ID" meaning it calculates from actual PPM information! Also I think TEK calculator can do this but with a long process... Compared to WinDDP 3.0, it is only 1 button click and your phone is ok On changing message alert tones... Do you really want to change message alert tones into ring tone sounding tones??? Don't you find the Ascending Alert Tone or even the Special Alert Tone annoying enough??? Hmmmm,,,, well for those who want to be more annoying, yes it is possible! But with a few restrictions... Message Alert tones on most DCT3 are set to a specific length in the MCU, thus making this very long might affect the rest of the code below it! However, on some DCT3 phones like 6210/50 and 7110, the message alert tones are stored in the PPM for Standard, Special and Beep Once... but I cannot find Ascending!!! Maybe it is still stuck in the MCU Anyway, if you want to change your message alert tones in 6210/50 and 7110, all you have to do is remove the default alert tones and insert ringtones with INDEXes and names as follows: Special Alert Tone: Index = SMSS Actual Name = Special Standard Alert Tone: Index: _SMS Actual Name = Standard Beep Once Alert Tone: Index: BSMS Actual Name = Beep Once You can even change the Battery Empty Tone to a ringtone!!! Recharge Battery Tone: Index: BATR Actual Name = ToneBattRe Hope this information helps you guys! Best Regards, X-Shadow

03-31-2002, 18:29	#111 (permalink)
douda Freak Poster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tunisia Posts: 211 Member: 8903 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	log calc not work with phones 3330 v 4.30 and 4.50 try to downlgrade

04-02-2002, 16:37	#114 (permalink)
TaRGa Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: istanbul-türkiye Age: 45 Posts: 7 Member: 10589 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	ý add ringtone's and update my flash but TEK log calculator didn't calculate the log why? help me.... ý have 5110 V 5.30 B thank u

04-11-2002, 11:33	#115 (permalink)
DNewbies Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 6 Member: 10610 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Can anyone help me please. I'm trying to change the ringtone for my 3310.But after flashing, I've got NO NETWORK and AUTO RESTART . I read that only tek faid calc will work. I've both FAID calculator using MBUS by tek and FAID******* by DAvieB. Can anyone kind enough to type out steps by steps instruction to do faid calc using eithe of this proggie? Thanks a million

04-12-2002, 20:05	#118 (permalink)
blu90 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: philippines Posts: 20 Member: 9587 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	thanks! whats the name of the software and by who?

04-13-2002, 09:03	#119 (permalink)
Abe No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Croatia Age: 45 Posts: 1,114 Member: 4185 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	Register to the group....nfree.org and go to download section.... proggie is convert03.exe otr convert3.exe............

04-13-2002, 09:49	#120 (permalink)
bisdak Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Philippines Posts: 5 Member: 3417 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	customized tones Can somebody tell me how to determine the number of ‘FF’ at the end of each tone.

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