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evan_silbert · 07-19-2005, 17:34

The irony is that if he had been on top of Nokia updates (or released the new protection sooner if that is the excuse) such as APE flashing and BB5 (FBus and USB Flashing), there never would have been a market for JAF and this would not have been a problem.

JAF was needed because of its special abilities and it filled a needed hole. It's a special box and I am glad to have both a JAF and a Twister.

JAF is only a copy of Twister in the way that Twister is a copy of Phoenix.

.:GSM International:. · 07-19-2005, 17:58

Well if Saras has kept your HWK and made up some bull that they were faulty, just because you promoted and sold jaf, then i think he seriously needs to grow up! As evan_silbert said earlier, if he'd of been on time with his updates, and not f.ucked us around for so long then we wouldnt of needed jaf at all!

Raskal, make your millions from Jaf with BB5 unlocking, and then retire, and watch Saras always struggle to play catch up after this disastrous period....
have a smile on your face, supping on a beer with a beautiful woman and let the gsm market destroy itself....

respect

blue_life1111 · 07-19-2005, 17:59

Raskal
dont so sad...just improve the JAF , serve JAF user better..(may be SEMC,BB5 unlock?)
clever USER will know who's product is good for support,service

ManWolf · 07-19-2005, 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Rawlinson

Well if Saras has kept your HWK and made up some bull that they were faulty

Perhaps one day the real reason for this will become known, I'm fairly sure that the chips were good when delivered (unless Raskal's suppliers are really dodgy) but you can break them if they are connected to the programmer incorrectly, I've had a few problems like that in the past with hardware developments.

Hope this can be resolved to avoid that nasty taste in the *****.

--

WolfMan

Raskal · 07-19-2005, 18:13

I am sad becuase it was a fuking hard work to make and to keep the Twister customers satisfied some how. In fact, it was not only my part, saras did the updates , i did my job with flash file support, warranty, etc.. in fact a team work, and now sell Saras my customers to Naresh Versace, i think is the most worst thing he could do ever.

give me · 07-19-2005, 21:49

The name TWISTER is created by Raskal & Thomas, they done a lot of hard work in building the name! so it is unfair for other reseller to use this name just to sell the box!

Saras made a bad move not to return the defective dallas chip to raskal, from what he did, it is clear that he sold the chip to other reseller like Narry, Gobi, etc... And this is not a good business practice! Because of this, YOU LOOSE MY RESPECT! unless you have a very very good reason why!

zapped · 07-19-2005, 22:37

saras already lost everyone's respect... it took him forever to come up with an update and it's not even what we needed... SEMC tools are FREE and available everywhere and already there was a solution that cost the same as HWK and worked with saras boxes (setool) so can someone tell me why the hell do i need this HWK? and besides saras chose the person that gave the best support to be his enemy which is really stupid. A smart thing for HWK would have been to release it with complete BB5 support then it would make sense .. but also the image that saras is giving right now about his business practices makes people lose trust in him.

James_S · 07-20-2005, 00:46

Why is the GSM-business so ****ing unserious? Seems like there are no normal business rules in this scene...

Only lies, delays, stealing, and public fighting by bosses. I'm real tired of this. Can't trust anyone.

todoportable · 07-20-2005, 00:47

it´s mean Twister almost is going to die

taihv · 07-20-2005, 05:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by todoportable

it´s mean Twister almost is going to die

hmm. i think not only Twister, also all Sasas box!!!

regards

give me · 07-20-2005, 05:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by todoportable

it´s mean Twister almost is going to die

I think Gobi already answer your question in this post http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...=219786&page=3

Keke · 07-20-2005, 08:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raskal

I am sad becuase it was a fuking hard work to make and to keep the Twister customers satisfied some how. In fact, it was not only my part, saras did the updates , i did my job with flash file support, warranty, etc.. in fact a team work, and now sell Saras my customers to Naresh Versace, i think is the most worst thing he could do ever.

Calm down Brother, everything happen for a reason and one closed door will always open another one.

We can all see and it is up to everybody to decide, but what is sure you will prevele.Just keep up your hard work.

BR

keke

leosedf · 07-20-2005, 08:46

People.
Lets not start wars etc etc.
Let Raskal try to TALK.
Only with a discussion will the problems be solved, nothing will die or so. Problems are here to be solved, this is a problem and it has to solved.
By accusing each other this will lead to nowhere.

Raskal · 07-20-2005, 15:37

Guys, ask the HWK team what is this here

....

Maybe they want to screw the customers, after releaseing hwk by releasing a new box, who knows....

B.R.,
Raskal

p.s. in the red circle, this is the implemented HWK...

kenichi · 07-20-2005, 15:54

From Twister to Cyclone, just an "evolved" box with the HWK already implemented?

07-20-2005, 15:37	#134 (permalink)
Raskal Banned Join Date: Oct 1999 Age: 55 Posts: 14,535 Member: 563 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 22,328	Guys, ask the HWK team what is this here .... Maybe they want to screw the customers, after releaseing hwk by releasing a new box, who knows.... B.R., Raskal p.s. in the red circle, this is the implemented HWK... Last edited by Raskal; 01-18-2007 at 17:19.

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07-19-2005, 17:34	#121 (permalink)
evan_silbert No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 5,027 Member: 21920 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 10	The irony is that if he had been on top of Nokia updates (or released the new protection sooner if that is the excuse) such as APE flashing and BB5 (FBus and USB Flashing), there never would have been a market for JAF and this would not have been a problem. JAF was needed because of its special abilities and it filled a needed hole. It's a special box and I am glad to have both a JAF and a Twister. JAF is only a copy of Twister in the way that Twister is a copy of Phoenix.

07-19-2005, 17:58	#122 (permalink)
.:GSM International:. Cheater -Don't Deal with him- Join Date: Jan 2002 Age: 48 Posts: 4,783 Member: 8879 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.84016 Thanks Meter: 327	Well if Saras has kept your HWK and made up some bull that they were faulty, just because you promoted and sold jaf, then i think he seriously needs to grow up! As evan_silbert said earlier, if he'd of been on time with his updates, and not f.ucked us around for so long then we wouldnt of needed jaf at all! Raskal, make your millions from Jaf with BB5 unlocking, and then retire, and watch Saras always struggle to play catch up after this disastrous period.... have a smile on your face, supping on a beer with a beautiful woman and let the gsm market destroy itself.... respect

07-19-2005, 17:59	#123 (permalink)
blue_life1111 No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 560 Member: 81931 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 92	Raskal dont so sad...just improve the JAF , serve JAF user better..(may be SEMC,BB5 unlock?) clever USER will know who's product is good for support,service

07-19-2005, 18:13	#125 (permalink)
Raskal Banned Join Date: Oct 1999 Age: 55 Posts: 14,535 Member: 563 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 22,328	I am sad becuase it was a fuking hard work to make and to keep the Twister customers satisfied some how. In fact, it was not only my part, saras did the updates , i did my job with flash file support, warranty, etc.. in fact a team work, and now sell Saras my customers to Naresh Versace, i think is the most worst thing he could do ever.

07-19-2005, 21:49	#126 (permalink)
give me Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Other Side of the Planet Age: 54 Posts: 117 Member: 4944 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	The name TWISTER is created by Raskal & Thomas, they done a lot of hard work in building the name! so it is unfair for other reseller to use this name just to sell the box! Saras made a bad move not to return the defective dallas chip to raskal, from what he did, it is clear that he sold the chip to other reseller like Narry, Gobi, etc... And this is not a good business practice! Because of this, YOU LOOSE MY RESPECT! unless you have a very very good reason why!

07-19-2005, 22:37	#127 (permalink)
zapped No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: here Posts: 958 Member: 20953 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 94	saras already lost everyone's respect... it took him forever to come up with an update and it's not even what we needed... SEMC tools are FREE and available everywhere and already there was a solution that cost the same as HWK and worked with saras boxes (setool) so can someone tell me why the hell do i need this HWK? and besides saras chose the person that gave the best support to be his enemy which is really stupid. A smart thing for HWK would have been to release it with complete BB5 support then it would make sense .. but also the image that saras is giving right now about his business practices makes people lose trust in him.

07-20-2005, 00:46	#128 (permalink)
James_S No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 54 Posts: 1,726 Member: 105625 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 44	Why is the GSM-business so ****ing unserious? Seems like there are no normal business rules in this scene... Only lies, delays, stealing, and public fighting by bosses. I'm real tired of this. Can't trust anyone.

07-20-2005, 00:47	#129 (permalink)
todoportable Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jerez de la Frontera , Cadiz , SPAIN Age: 48 Posts: 410 Member: 115106 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4	it´s mean Twister almost is going to die

07-20-2005, 08:46	#133 (permalink)
leosedf No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Thessaloniki,Hellas Age: 44 Posts: 1,013 Member: 33547 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 17	People. Lets not start wars etc etc. Let Raskal try to TALK. Only with a discussion will the problems be solved, nothing will die or so. Problems are here to be solved, this is a problem and it has to solved. By accusing each other this will lead to nowhere.

07-20-2005, 15:54	#135 (permalink)
kenichi No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Madrid (from here to heaven) Age: 42 Posts: 811 Member: 6084 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4	From Twister to Cyclone, just an "evolved" box with the HWK already implemented?