swap security??? - GSM-Forum

likwidsky · 05-26-2005, 11:59

how about the security on your dongle???
does is have more stable security?
can you give us more info on your product

good luck!!!

S.W.A.P · 05-29-2005, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by likwidsky

how about the security on your dongle???
does is have more stable security?
can you give us more info on your product

good luck!!!

SWAP is well protected!!!

We use SWAP USB Box + hardware secuirty key and plus sumthing else

Swap

Lpapp · 05-29-2005, 13:31

Lol

All it will not help

Because you can put com cable with RX to RX and TX connact on Phone and then you can see what is happend

Or portmon software if you use Comport or Com emulator.
2. All it is supported by Freia and free SST or cracked.
3. X65 and russian people can use Papuas software it work with TP and ETC.

HONGXING · 05-30-2005, 04:27

Yeah, true.

Serial communication cannot be protected ;-)

Not only PortMon, you can just make a nice "spy-cable" to redirect RS232 communication to 2 other PCs (one PC for each direction - just in case the communication is full-duplex)

Software for capturing RS232 communications can be done in 5 minutes in DOS.

So don't even need PortMon (because SWAP-Team could detect it and kick the process to prevent spying) - hardware solution by "spy-cable" cannot be detected ;-)

And LOG-2-MAP algorithm is publicly known for Siemens phones and still the same...

This is my way of spying RS232 comms.

Using generic dongle is not good idea always - only if implemented properly...

Lpapp · 05-30-2005, 06:28

Do you think they use something other that SST or Martech ?
Allways the same ...
The best solution for all siemens to crack winswup signature and rsa keys

and you can unlock any siemens without any testpoint(only with worked phone)
soo... that is nothing news.
where is found mastercodes from fullflash\phone ?
or found BFB Key in X55\X60 ?

P.S. With RS232 better not crack software,to write software manual,because all algorithmys to creat unlock map is free

P.S. With 'put com cable with RX to RX and TX connact on Phone and then you can see what is happend' i mean other PC with comport and software to read bytes

S.W.A.P · 05-30-2005, 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by PROTOBUYER

Yeah, true.

Serial communication cannot be protected ;-)

Not only PortMon, you can just make a nice "spy-cable" to redirect RS232 communication to 2 other PCs (one PC for each direction - just in case the communication is full-duplex)

Software for capturing RS232 communications can be done in 5 minutes in DOS.

So don't even need PortMon (because SWAP-Team could detect it and kick the process to prevent spying) - hardware solution by "spy-cable" cannot be detected ;-)

And LOG-2-MAP algorithm is publicly known for Siemens phones and still the same...

This is my way of spying RS232 comms.

Using generic dongle is not good idea always - only if implemented properly...

SWAP uses SWAP box which is an USB device!!!
No " RS232" COM port is used!!!

Lpapp · 05-30-2005, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by S.W.A.P

SWAP uses SWAP box which is an USB device!!!
No " RS232" COM port is used!!!

Lol

and ?
Try to connect RS232 cable to other PC,write one software to read bytes.
Put RX cable(RS232) to your Box on RX and TX and you will see all what will be happend.
Or try to use USB monitor.

BR

ASHIF · 05-31-2005, 12:19

i think swap has no attractions for its customers because all free soft of siemens are doing well as swap..even if u r using crack sst you dont need to buy swap

karabey · 06-01-2005, 01:12

What if Swap Supports Testpoints with Needles like Martech?

Than its wonderfull!!

HONGXING · 06-02-2005, 00:07

What is this "SWAP Box". Is it an usual USB-2-RS232 containing FTDI-chip (like found in many uniboxes, Vygis unibox, Infinity unibox)? Or even worse Prolific ;-)

If "SWAP Box" actually contains some custom logic (like programmed MCU or FPGA), why is there a need for the dongle?

We want to see some screenshots of this software...

@karabey: You are reseller for SWAP, did you get any screenshots?

Lpapp · 06-02-2005, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by karabey

What if Swap Supports Testpoints with Needles like Martech?

Than its wonderfull!!

Try to dissambler bootcore with swup and you don't need any testpoint

karabey · 06-02-2005, 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by PROTOBUYER

@karabey: You are reseller for SWAP, did you get any screenshots?

I am Distributor for Europe but i didnt get any Screenshots of Software also...

luskao · 06-02-2005, 07:15

Well everyone wants news...I was wondering to buy it if they include needles or anything as well as I tought it could be interesting if they offer Nec.

Please SWAP team any news or info about it...We need some more than two posts.

BR

S.W.A.P · 06-02-2005, 08:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by PROTOBUYER

What is this "SWAP Box". Is it an usual USB-2-RS232 containing FTDI-chip (like found in many uniboxes, Vygis unibox, Infinity unibox)? Or even worse Prolific ;-)

If "SWAP Box" actually contains some custom logic (like programmed MCU or FPGA), why is there a need for the dongle?

We want to see some screenshots of this software...

@karabey: You are reseller for SWAP, did you get any screenshots?

The Hardware Key in the package is for additional security!
So if someone clones the box he can use it only with this Hardware Key.

VsH-GsM · 06-04-2005, 08:28

@Lpapp,PROTOBUYER
Well, if it`s easy to crack/spy/copy/clone, so why don`t you do it? if you don`t wanna do, so don`t speak about it !
If you think swap is a copy of martech etc... SIMPLY DON`T BUY IT!

there are a lot of other products which author of them even not used any RX TX rs232 bla bla bla tricks, cuz they are just shells

)
why don`t you talk about them?!

you think swap is useless? no mind, simply DON`T BUY!

If you are a good RX/TX spyman, look around, you can spy swap,pbb3,cruiser bla bla bla and make good money!
but unfortunately, YOU CANT

at the end , DON`T SPEAK so much, just DO !

05-26-2005, 11:59	#1 (permalink)
likwidsky Freak Poster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 200 Member: 97346 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 14	swap security??? how about the security on your dongle??? does is have more stable security? can you give us more info on your product good luck!!!

05-30-2005, 04:27	#4 (permalink)
HONGXING No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Inside 8250 UART and 8086 CPU ;-) Posts: 1,024 Member: 33079 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Yeah, true. Serial communication cannot be protected ;-) Not only PortMon, you can just make a nice "spy-cable" to redirect RS232 communication to 2 other PCs (one PC for each direction - just in case the communication is full-duplex) Software for capturing RS232 communications can be done in 5 minutes in DOS. So don't even need PortMon (because SWAP-Team could detect it and kick the process to prevent spying) - hardware solution by "spy-cable" cannot be detected ;-) And LOG-2-MAP algorithm is publicly known for Siemens phones and still the same... This is my way of spying RS232 comms. Using generic dongle is not good idea always - only if implemented properly... Last edited by S.W.A.P; 05-30-2005 at 14:46.

06-02-2005, 00:07	#10 (permalink)
HONGXING No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Inside 8250 UART and 8086 CPU ;-) Posts: 1,024 Member: 33079 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	What is this "SWAP Box". Is it an usual USB-2-RS232 containing FTDI-chip (like found in many uniboxes, Vygis unibox, Infinity unibox)? Or even worse Prolific ;-) If "SWAP Box" actually contains some custom logic (like programmed MCU or FPGA), why is there a need for the dongle? We want to see some screenshots of this software... @karabey: You are reseller for SWAP, did you get any screenshots? Last edited by S.W.A.P; 06-02-2005 at 08:12.

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05-29-2005, 13:31	#3 (permalink)
Lpapp No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: allsiemens.com Age: 38 Posts: 582 Member: 15925 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 11	Lol All it will not help Because you can put com cable with RX to RX and TX connact on Phone and then you can see what is happend Or portmon software if you use Comport or Com emulator. 2. All it is supported by Freia and free SST or cracked. 3. X65 and russian people can use Papuas software it work with TP and ETC.

05-30-2005, 06:28	#5 (permalink)
Lpapp No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: allsiemens.com Age: 38 Posts: 582 Member: 15925 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 11	Do you think they use something other that SST or Martech ? Allways the same ... The best solution for all siemens to crack winswup signature and rsa keys and you can unlock any siemens without any testpoint(only with worked phone) soo... that is nothing news. where is found mastercodes from fullflash\phone ? or found BFB Key in X55\X60 ? P.S. With RS232 better not crack software,to write software manual,because all algorithmys to creat unlock map is free P.S. With 'put com cable with RX to RX and TX connact on Phone and then you can see what is happend' i mean other PC with comport and software to read bytes

05-31-2005, 12:19	#8 (permalink)
ASHIF No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 24° 51′ 36″ N, 67° Posts: 2,084 Member: 8353 Status: Offline Sonork: 113276 Thanks Meter: 335	i think swap has no attractions for its customers because all free soft of siemens are doing well as swap..even if u r using crack sst you dont need to buy swap

06-01-2005, 01:12	#9 (permalink)
karabey No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 43 Posts: 1,055 Member: 45183 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 474	What if Swap Supports Testpoints with Needles like Martech? Than its wonderfull!!

06-02-2005, 07:15	#13 (permalink)
luskao Product Supporter Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 5,993 Member: 81703 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1,332	Well everyone wants news...I was wondering to buy it if they include needles or anything as well as I tought it could be interesting if they offer Nec. Please SWAP team any news or info about it...We need some more than two posts. BR

06-04-2005, 08:28	#15 (permalink)
VsH-GsM Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: IRAN Age: 38 Posts: 3,679 Member: 7444 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.99999 Thanks Meter: 10,013	@Lpapp,PROTOBUYER Well, if it`s easy to crack/spy/copy/clone, so why don`t you do it? if you don`t wanna do, so don`t speak about it ! If you think swap is a copy of martech etc... SIMPLY DON`T BUY IT! there are a lot of other products which author of them even not used any RX TX rs232 bla bla bla tricks, cuz they are just shells ) why don`t you talk about them?! you think swap is useless? no mind, simply DON`T BUY! If you are a good RX/TX spyman, look around, you can spy swap,pbb3,cruiser bla bla bla and make good money! but unfortunately, YOU CANT at the end , DON`T SPEAK so much, just DO !