How to use Sensor Tool to fine tune SL45 battery - Page 3 - GSM-Forum

kalac · 10-13-2004, 10:36

My 540 mAh battery lasts about two days.Will that .blk file increase stand-by time?

hookah · 10-13-2004, 15:52

I fullflash with 54 version, and after them fullflash with 56 version and GSM is ok.
But still careful with sensor tool,
I have 30 and maybe more patches in my phone, and I lose all of them...

sl45vietnam · 10-14-2004, 06:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by krafte

like i said before Sensor tool needs the address of the intern voltage sensor to read VBattDSP.
You need to add an entry to the ini-File of Sensor Tool with your hardwareId, softwareId and sensoraddress. e.g for SL45v56 "HW31SW56=[VBattDSPaddr]"

I'm looking for this address but no one could say it to me yet.

Thanks krafte, I see what you meant. I'll find it, and I will inform you about result.

sl45vietnam · 10-15-2004, 05:59

My battery is OK, last about 4 days; but my problem is battery indicator on screen is not exactly. It's often full (100%), or 80% or 60%, phone often warn battery empty when 80%, sometime when 60%.
I don't know if it's caused by blk or other reason.
Who can give me 1200mAh blk for sl45iv56? My email is [email protected]
Thanks in advance.

sl45vietnam · 10-19-2004, 06:07

My solution is writing original firmware to phone. It may better than now. I'm testing and I'll inform about my result.

sl45vietnam · 10-19-2004, 06:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalac

My 540 mAh battery lasts about two days.Will that .blk file increase stand-by time?

If your battery is too old, pls replace it. I think that new blk cannot increase standby time. I'm testing my phone and when ending, I'll give some new information.

cyperghost · 10-25-2004, 12:21

@sl45vietnam

Any results last time?

My personal conclusion for this topic is. All mobiles got different sensor settings. The sensor is NOT fix for different battery types. Why? Because the standard battery of the SLIK is a 540mAh one, Siemens offical sells/solds 800 mAh battery type. And now the argue. If someone bought the battery with the longer durance do you think he is in need to run to the next Siemens shop to recalibrate the sensors? No in no way. So it's a big big rumour that there are SPECIAL blks for 540/850/1000 and maybe the new 10000000000000000000000000000000000 mAh cells (from Starship Enterprise!!). The voltage of all types is the same - 4250 mV is maximum and the phone switches off if the battery is near 3800 mV. It's not a questione of the Ampere it's the Voltage. Sensortool is usefull for fine calibrating!

_______________________________
But back to topic. I also heard if you downgrade to maybe v52/54/55 (via WinSwup not a third person Fubu!) the battery lasts for a longer time. Can someone check this?

ka2 · 10-25-2004, 14:53

many "baterry problems" is hardware problems

krafte · 10-25-2004, 17:01

@cyberghost

Yes, sure its for fine calibrating. And yes in the higher Voltage area ther is no difference between 500mAh and 1000mAh but bigger batteries last longer in the "low voltage"(about 3,8 V) area than the small original batteries. So the phon would shut down although there are resources, because the phon thinks the voltage will lower faster than it does, so if u have a bigger battery 1250 mAh it makes a clear difference.

sl45vietnam · 10-27-2004, 15:14

Hi, I think that mAh is effect on working time of phone, although it don't effect on voltage of battery. So I'm sure that 540mAh battery has lasting time shorter than 1000mAh one.
My result is: After writing original FUBU into phone, the battery indicator is correct, but it don't increase standby time. My phone shut down when voltage over 3700mV, it is about 4220mV when full charge. Standby time about 3 - 3,5 days.
Someone from my coutry said that he can find out the suitable values for each battery, but very difficult and waste time, and if he buy a new battery he has to look for new values, although choosing only one kind of battery.
Oh, it is very difficult to know why SL45 has the big problem on battery?

Mateusz · 11-23-2004, 10:27

My SL45i shuts down very early when talking: it is almost a non-mobile phone (you have to be connected to the mains to talk). The standby time is not drastically reduced. But
Same thing was happening with new (albeit non-original) battery.
Is it a hardware problem, and is it worth to fix it?

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10-13-2004, 10:36	#31 (permalink)
kalac Insane Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sarajevo,B&H Age: 46 Posts: 65 Member: 50599 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	My 540 mAh battery lasts about two days.Will that .blk file increase stand-by time?

10-13-2004, 15:52	#32 (permalink)
hookah Major Poster Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 46 Member: 85188 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I fullflash with 54 version, and after them fullflash with 56 version and GSM is ok. But still careful with sensor tool, I have 30 and maybe more patches in my phone, and I lose all of them...

10-15-2004, 05:59	#34 (permalink)
sl45vietnam Freak Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vietnam Age: 49 Posts: 141 Member: 84390 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	My battery is OK, last about 4 days; but my problem is battery indicator on screen is not exactly. It's often full (100%), or 80% or 60%, phone often warn battery empty when 80%, sometime when 60%. I don't know if it's caused by blk or other reason. Who can give me 1200mAh blk for sl45iv56? My email is [email protected] Thanks in advance.

10-19-2004, 06:07	#35 (permalink)
sl45vietnam Freak Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vietnam Age: 49 Posts: 141 Member: 84390 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	My solution is writing original firmware to phone. It may better than now. I'm testing and I'll inform about my result.

10-25-2004, 12:21	#37 (permalink)
cyperghost No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 705 Member: 42457 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	@sl45vietnam Any results last time? My personal conclusion for this topic is. All mobiles got different sensor settings. The sensor is NOT fix for different battery types. Why? Because the standard battery of the SLIK is a 540mAh one, Siemens offical sells/solds 800 mAh battery type. And now the argue. If someone bought the battery with the longer durance do you think he is in need to run to the next Siemens shop to recalibrate the sensors? No in no way. So it's a big big rumour that there are SPECIAL blks for 540/850/1000 and maybe the new 10000000000000000000000000000000000 mAh cells (from Starship Enterprise!!). The voltage of all types is the same - 4250 mV is maximum and the phone switches off if the battery is near 3800 mV. It's not a questione of the Ampere it's the Voltage. Sensortool is usefull for fine calibrating! _______________________________ But back to topic. I also heard if you downgrade to maybe v52/54/55 (via WinSwup not a third person Fubu!) the battery lasts for a longer time. Can someone check this?

10-25-2004, 14:53	#38 (permalink)
ka2 Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bulgaria,Plovdiv Age: 53 Posts: 207 Member: 77040 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 60	many "baterry problems" is hardware problems

10-25-2004, 17:01	#39 (permalink)
krafte Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 12 Member: 80057 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	@cyberghost Yes, sure its for fine calibrating. And yes in the higher Voltage area ther is no difference between 500mAh and 1000mAh but bigger batteries last longer in the "low voltage"(about 3,8 V) area than the small original batteries. So the phon would shut down although there are resources, because the phon thinks the voltage will lower faster than it does, so if u have a bigger battery 1250 mAh it makes a clear difference.

10-27-2004, 15:14	#40 (permalink)
sl45vietnam Freak Poster Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vietnam Age: 49 Posts: 141 Member: 84390 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	Hi, I think that mAh is effect on working time of phone, although it don't effect on voltage of battery. So I'm sure that 540mAh battery has lasting time shorter than 1000mAh one. My result is: After writing original FUBU into phone, the battery indicator is correct, but it don't increase standby time. My phone shut down when voltage over 3700mV, it is about 4220mV when full charge. Standby time about 3 - 3,5 days. Someone from my coutry said that he can find out the suitable values for each battery, but very difficult and waste time, and if he buy a new battery he has to look for new values, although choosing only one kind of battery. Oh, it is very difficult to know why SL45 has the big problem on battery?

11-23-2004, 10:27	#41 (permalink)
Mateusz Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Poland Posts: 103 Member: 5951 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	My SL45i shuts down very early when talking: it is almost a non-mobile phone (you have to be connected to the mains to talk). The standby time is not drastically reduced. But Same thing was happening with new (albeit non-original) battery. Is it a hardware problem, and is it worth to fix it?