S75 official FW47 Variant A104 or A600 - GSM-Forum

tsereve · 02-25-2007, 21:08

Hello,

Can you please help me find this FW? The Benq-siemens site is already out of service and I need this FW to update my s75 which has FW24.

Thanks.

TUFF Stough · 02-27-2007, 03:06

For official version, there's only variant x4xx available in siemensmania.cz (require login to download it).

As for unofficial version (winswup version), there's only variant x3xx available in allsiemens.com/flash (also MAP and XFS available in the same source).

tsereve · 02-27-2007, 10:41

Thanks. I've been reading about MAP and XFS but I really can't find a good information about it in "English" and the procedure on how to install these files. It's very frustrating reading discussions and advises in siemens forums just saying "to upgrade to this and apply this" without giving the proper procedure.

If there's anybody out there who have done these updates and applying of patches maybe it's time for them to share what they have learned. I know that there are lots of siemens-phone lovers out there who are very interested to learn. Let's help each other.

TUFF Stough · 02-28-2007, 04:14

For updating the MAP, you need to download SWritemap software. It consists of 2 files: standard map and delta map. Delta map contains the GPRS and MMS settings for network supported by the variant (in this case Eastern Europe). You can update the delta map also in order to be more stable, but later you'll need to resetting all of the GPRS and MMS.

XFS in otherhand, consists of content of the flexmem completely (include hidden drive 1 and 2). To update it, requires winswup 4.18 (search the web to obtain one). You'll have to backup all of your addressbook and also application, because the XFS will replace the whole content of your flexmem with the updated ones.

tsereve · 02-28-2007, 05:36

Thanks. More questions. Why do I need to do these upgrades? Is there any prerequisite on the FW level side? Is it safe to do this (no chance of damaging the unit)? I really appreciate your help.

tsereve · 02-28-2007, 10:51

Another question. Which one should I update first, the fw, the map, or the XFS?

TUFF Stough · 03-01-2007, 05:01

Apply the upgrades in the following sequence: Firmware -> MAP -> XFS.

Normally, if you upgrade just the firmware, you'll still be facing some bugs in your handset, i.e. bugs related to the backlight can be solved by updating also the XFS. As for MAP, it basically have something to do with the stability of the network.

I forgot one other thing, backup also the desired T9 and license folders before updating the XFS.

tsereve · 03-02-2007, 17:16

Thanks Tuff Stough. But how to backup the T9 and license folders? How to restore those?

TUFF Stough · 03-03-2007, 02:53

Just use SiMoCo 2.2.8 to do the magic.

tsereve · 03-03-2007, 06:38

Is there a specific procedure how to update the fw, map, and xfs? I tried using winswup v41.15 on the FW update but the phone shuts down during pre-check.

TUFF Stough · 03-03-2007, 08:14

It DOES require shutdown to perform the upgrades.

Herewith I attached the tutorial to update the MAP and XFS. Hope you might find it useful.

tsereve · 03-03-2007, 17:41

Thanks again. I know I'm bothering you too much but how about the instruction for the firmware upgrade?

TUFF Stough · 03-04-2007, 06:37

It's basically same with XFS upgrade. For firmware, the upgrade concept need to be in secure mode. Load the xbi/xbz using winswup and write to the phone with pre-check and post-check unchecked. This time you can upgrade your S75 with turn ON condition (then click the button 'start and close').

TUFF Stough · 03-04-2007, 06:42

It's normal to have the handset shutdown during pre-check. It means the device is recognised by winswup, and cable is configured correctly.

tsereve · 03-09-2007, 13:44

Hi, I'm really struggling with this update stuffs. I've used winswup 4.18 but I'm getting this error "Cant connect to Mobile with BootstrapLoader on Com 4". I've tried all posible phone set-up such as "no sim + off or on, with sim + off or on. I really need your help on how to accomplish these updates.

I also followed the following procedure as per your advise:

"How to Perform:
1. Turn OFF the handset and connect it with computer using appropriate cable.
2. Run the Winswup 4.18 application, configure the ComPort and baudrate of the cable where the handset is connected. Keep the 'Force ComPort' unchecked.
3. Open the selected XFS file (change the Files of type into FFS-Content *.XFS).
4. Change the update-concept to Force BSL, unsecured mode (Option\Update-concept).
5. Skip the pre-check and post-check.
6. Press the 'Start' button.
7. Wait until the process is finished before shutdown the winswup application."

02-25-2007, 21:08	#1 (permalink)
tsereve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Member: 456132 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	S75 official FW47 Variant A104 or A600 Hello, Can you please help me find this FW? The Benq-siemens site is already out of service and I need this FW to update my s75 which has FW24. Thanks.

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02-27-2007, 03:06	#2 (permalink)
TUFF Stough Insane Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Age: 49 Posts: 96 Member: 90127 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	For official version, there's only variant x4xx available in siemensmania.cz (require login to download it). As for unofficial version (winswup version), there's only variant x3xx available in allsiemens.com/flash (also MAP and XFS available in the same source).

02-27-2007, 10:41	#3 (permalink)
tsereve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Member: 456132 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Thanks. I've been reading about MAP and XFS but I really can't find a good information about it in "English" and the procedure on how to install these files. It's very frustrating reading discussions and advises in siemens forums just saying "to upgrade to this and apply this" without giving the proper procedure. If there's anybody out there who have done these updates and applying of patches maybe it's time for them to share what they have learned. I know that there are lots of siemens-phone lovers out there who are very interested to learn. Let's help each other.

02-28-2007, 04:14	#4 (permalink)
TUFF Stough Insane Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Age: 49 Posts: 96 Member: 90127 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	For updating the MAP, you need to download SWritemap software. It consists of 2 files: standard map and delta map. Delta map contains the GPRS and MMS settings for network supported by the variant (in this case Eastern Europe). You can update the delta map also in order to be more stable, but later you'll need to resetting all of the GPRS and MMS. XFS in otherhand, consists of content of the flexmem completely (include hidden drive 1 and 2). To update it, requires winswup 4.18 (search the web to obtain one). You'll have to backup all of your addressbook and also application, because the XFS will replace the whole content of your flexmem with the updated ones.

02-28-2007, 05:36	#5 (permalink)
tsereve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Member: 456132 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Thanks. More questions. Why do I need to do these upgrades? Is there any prerequisite on the FW level side? Is it safe to do this (no chance of damaging the unit)? I really appreciate your help.

02-28-2007, 10:51	#6 (permalink)
tsereve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Member: 456132 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Another question. Which one should I update first, the fw, the map, or the XFS?

03-01-2007, 05:01	#7 (permalink)
TUFF Stough Insane Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Age: 49 Posts: 96 Member: 90127 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Apply the upgrades in the following sequence: Firmware -> MAP -> XFS. Normally, if you upgrade just the firmware, you'll still be facing some bugs in your handset, i.e. bugs related to the backlight can be solved by updating also the XFS. As for MAP, it basically have something to do with the stability of the network. I forgot one other thing, backup also the desired T9 and license folders before updating the XFS.

03-02-2007, 17:16	#8 (permalink)
tsereve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Member: 456132 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Thanks Tuff Stough. But how to backup the T9 and license folders? How to restore those?

03-03-2007, 02:53	#9 (permalink)
TUFF Stough Insane Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Age: 49 Posts: 96 Member: 90127 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Just use SiMoCo 2.2.8 to do the magic.

03-03-2007, 06:38	#10 (permalink)
tsereve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Member: 456132 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Is there a specific procedure how to update the fw, map, and xfs? I tried using winswup v41.15 on the FW update but the phone shuts down during pre-check.

03-03-2007, 17:41	#12 (permalink)
tsereve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Member: 456132 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Thanks again. I know I'm bothering you too much but how about the instruction for the firmware upgrade?

03-04-2007, 06:37	#13 (permalink)
TUFF Stough Insane Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Age: 49 Posts: 96 Member: 90127 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	It's basically same with XFS upgrade. For firmware, the upgrade concept need to be in secure mode. Load the xbi/xbz using winswup and write to the phone with pre-check and post-check unchecked. This time you can upgrade your S75 with turn ON condition (then click the button 'start and close').

03-04-2007, 06:42	#14 (permalink)
TUFF Stough Insane Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Age: 49 Posts: 96 Member: 90127 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	It's normal to have the handset shutdown during pre-check. It means the device is recognised by winswup, and cable is configured correctly.

03-09-2007, 13:44	#15 (permalink)
tsereve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 14 Member: 456132 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Hi, I'm really struggling with this update stuffs. I've used winswup 4.18 but I'm getting this error "Cant connect to Mobile with BootstrapLoader on Com 4". I've tried all posible phone set-up such as "no sim + off or on, with sim + off or on. I really need your help on how to accomplish these updates. I also followed the following procedure as per your advise: "How to Perform: 1. Turn OFF the handset and connect it with computer using appropriate cable. 2. Run the Winswup 4.18 application, configure the ComPort and baudrate of the cable where the handset is connected. Keep the 'Force ComPort' unchecked. 3. Open the selected XFS file (change the Files of type into FFS-Content *.XFS). 4. Change the update-concept to Force BSL, unsecured mode (Option\Update-concept). 5. Skip the pre-check and post-check. 6. Press the 'Start' button. 7. Wait until the process is finished before shutdown the winswup application."