Make patches for SL45 -HELP- - GSM-Forum

kapcom01 · 06-18-2003, 15:56

Hey guys, I am new here, this is my first post!

I'd like this thread to help, me and many others, to make their own patches. So, the masters of patching let aswer to our questions in their spare time! We -the little babys- are waiting for your support.

All beginners can post their questions here.

kapcom01 · 06-18-2003, 17:01

Lets begin...
I am not such a loser as i seem to be! I have some experience in programming with Java and Visual Basic. I do understand how patches for SL works and i have made some patches by gathering info from other's ready patches.

What I want, is to make possible to read the hex code of the full flash *.bin of my SL45 (in format similar to *.vkp or at least readable!), so i can find the address of the functions i am looking for by testing...

I use UltraEdit and when i open the *.bin i see 3 columns:
1st -something like addresses (not 0xYYZZZZ but 00zzzzz0h)
2nd -numbers like a 16bit code (think its ok)
3d -16characters of bull**** (not concern)

As u see, my problem is basically with the addresses.

Its my first time i am working so deep with hex and i dont have a clue!

Well can anyone tell me what am i doing wrong and i dont see the code as it appears in all those patches!!
When this problem solves i will be ready to make some good patches. I can do some more difficult things and i dont know this basic **** to continue!

Please HELP!
thanks for your time...

Shibby86 · 06-19-2003, 12:47

@kapcom01 and all other patch makers.
I'm also interested in making my own patches but where to start? I can't find a good tutorial or tips how to begin. Is there also a debugger for the SL45i firmware? I found a kind of emulator with this function but it just don't work

maybe I'm doing something wrong. does somebody have any tips?

kapcom01 · 06-19-2003, 13:27

@Shibby86
I'm getting better about the problem of hex address i have so when in a few days i think i will be able to post in here a tutorial guide from the very beggining

to help you and everyone.

Untill then u can post questions and ofcourse answers for other's wuestions(if u can), so i will see what we need for this guide!

About my hex problem i used some other programs UltraEdit, CodePad and WinHEX and i understood more!
Now i am working on unerstand the reason of the different digit on addresses from those patches and my full flash SL45.bin!
Here is an example of what i see:
from long# keylock patch --->> 3AF6F4: DAD66C2C
from my fullFlashSL45.bin --->003AF6F0: ..."DAD66C2C"...

As u see the data of the patch address can be found at an address with the last digit as "0". At least i found something! If someone can explain me why is that, it would save me a lot of time searching!

kapcom01 · 06-19-2003, 14:38

Ok i've managed to understand fully the addresses!

The last digit shows to VKlay program from which "bit" should begin to write!

So at the example i said before here is the explanation:

The VKlay goes to 3AF6Fx and replaces the bits from 4 and after.
If you didnt got it: 3AF6F4--->DA
3AF6F5--->D6
3AF6F6--->6C
3AF6F7--->2C

Now that i know how the addresses work, i have to learn how can i find the address i want for a function moficatin (for example).

Anyone who can help is welcome!
The full guide is a coming to reality.!

Shibby86 · 06-19-2003, 15:27

I know that a debugger will help, maybe it works to run softice on the SL45i emulator, because the full firmware is inplented in this emulator and uses the same adresses as the original phone, but it is an emulator so a program which runs also his own code. I have to test this to be sure my theory is right. I will get you guys up to date. but maybe other flash patching makers can also explain us how they do this.

kapcom01 · 06-20-2003, 12:37

I did a little search work on the internet and i what i found is that the Siemenes flash chip uses the C166 coding. At http://www.hitex.de/8051.html there are some free programs which may help us understand the code of the flash and make finally some patches

@Shibby86
Also in this site there are debuggers and emulators. Give a look and tell me if is anything helpfull there! Some programs were very big for my connection to download them so i left it for some other time!

georvox · 03-14-2008, 09:48

thnx, with the same wishes.

dagos · 03-14-2008, 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by georvox

thnx, with the same wishes.

...?????
After three years you continue this thread ?
dagos

lalo.lerry · 03-16-2008, 00:56

.. it's never to late to learn something new, IMHO.

georvox · 03-26-2008, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalo.lerry

.. it's never to late to learn something new, IMHO.

I wanna LEARN!!!
Really.
Heros have gone far away, my sl45 is dying!
Help.

Replika · 04-02-2008, 19:22

Try first at http://www.geocities.com/rizapn/
You should find the (de)compiler tool SFE and RinaPN's patch source

06-18-2003, 15:56	#1 (permalink)
kapcom01 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greece - PERAMA Age: 39 Posts: 12 Member: 31714 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Make patches for SL45 -HELP- Hey guys, I am new here, this is my first post! I'd like this thread to help, me and many others, to make their own patches. So, the masters of patching let aswer to our questions in their spare time! We -the little babys- are waiting for your support. All beginners can post their questions here. Last edited by kapcom01; 06-18-2003 at 21:06.

06-18-2003, 17:01	#2 (permalink)
kapcom01 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greece - PERAMA Age: 39 Posts: 12 Member: 31714 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Lets begin... I am not such a loser as i seem to be! I have some experience in programming with Java and Visual Basic. I do understand how patches for SL works and i have made some patches by gathering info from other's ready patches. What I want, is to make possible to read the hex code of the full flash .bin of my SL45 (in format similar to .vkp or at least readable!), so i can find the address of the functions i am looking for by testing... I use UltraEdit and when i open the .bin i see 3 columns: 1st -something like addresses (not 0xYYZZZZ but 00zzzzz0h) 2nd -numbers like a 16bit code (think its ok) 3d -16characters of bull* (not concern) As u see, my problem is basically with the addresses. Its my first time i am working so deep with hex and i dont have a clue! Well can anyone tell me what am i doing wrong and i dont see the code as it appears in all those patches!! When this problem solves i will be ready to make some good patches. I can do some more difficult things and i dont know this basic ** to continue! Please HELP! thanks for your time... Last edited by kapcom01; 06-18-2003 at 17:31.

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06-19-2003, 12:47	#3 (permalink)
Shibby86 Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 126 Member: 26889 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	@kapcom01 and all other patch makers. I'm also interested in making my own patches but where to start? I can't find a good tutorial or tips how to begin. Is there also a debugger for the SL45i firmware? I found a kind of emulator with this function but it just don't work maybe I'm doing something wrong. does somebody have any tips?

06-19-2003, 13:27	#4 (permalink)
kapcom01 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greece - PERAMA Age: 39 Posts: 12 Member: 31714 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	@Shibby86 I'm getting better about the problem of hex address i have so when in a few days i think i will be able to post in here a tutorial guide from the very beggining to help you and everyone. Untill then u can post questions and ofcourse answers for other's wuestions(if u can), so i will see what we need for this guide! About my hex problem i used some other programs UltraEdit, CodePad and WinHEX and i understood more! Now i am working on unerstand the reason of the different digit on addresses from those patches and my full flash SL45.bin! Here is an example of what i see: from long# keylock patch --->> 3AF6F4: DAD66C2C from my fullFlashSL45.bin --->003AF6F0: ..."DAD66C2C"... As u see the data of the patch address can be found at an address with the last digit as "0". At least i found something! If someone can explain me why is that, it would save me a lot of time searching!

06-19-2003, 14:38	#5 (permalink)
kapcom01 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greece - PERAMA Age: 39 Posts: 12 Member: 31714 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Ok i've managed to understand fully the addresses! The last digit shows to VKlay program from which "bit" should begin to write! So at the example i said before here is the explanation: The VKlay goes to 3AF6Fx and replaces the bits from 4 and after. If you didnt got it: 3AF6F4--->DA 3AF6F5--->D6 3AF6F6--->6C 3AF6F7--->2C Now that i know how the addresses work, i have to learn how can i find the address i want for a function moficatin (for example). Anyone who can help is welcome! The full guide is a coming to reality.!

06-19-2003, 15:27	#6 (permalink)
Shibby86 Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 126 Member: 26889 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	I know that a debugger will help, maybe it works to run softice on the SL45i emulator, because the full firmware is inplented in this emulator and uses the same adresses as the original phone, but it is an emulator so a program which runs also his own code. I have to test this to be sure my theory is right. I will get you guys up to date. but maybe other flash patching makers can also explain us how they do this.

06-20-2003, 12:37	#7 (permalink)
kapcom01 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Greece - PERAMA Age: 39 Posts: 12 Member: 31714 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I did a little search work on the internet and i what i found is that the Siemenes flash chip uses the C166 coding. At http://www.hitex.de/8051.html there are some free programs which may help us understand the code of the flash and make finally some patches @Shibby86 Also in this site there are debuggers and emulators. Give a look and tell me if is anything helpfull there! Some programs were very big for my connection to download them so i left it for some other time!

03-14-2008, 09:48	#8 (permalink)
georvox Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3 Member: 725532 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	thnx, with the same wishes.

03-16-2008, 00:56	#10 (permalink)
lalo.lerry No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Italy Age: 50 Posts: 1,018 Member: 50673 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	.. it's never to late to learn something new, IMHO.

04-02-2008, 19:22	#12 (permalink)
Replika Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 14 Member: 490501 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Try first at http://www.geocities.com/rizapn/ You should find the (de)compiler tool SFE and RinaPN's patch source