I would like to say something IMPORTANT! - GSM-Forum

MrProdent · 10-23-1999, 13:26

Yes.. and what might that be??

Well I have a simple question (with a statement)
What is happening here? People are selling stuff here! I thought that this was NOT the meaning of this forum.

The people who started this forum didn't mention anything, to anybody, about eventually turning it in to a commercial site where everybody can just offer any GSM-related software or hardware.

The intention was, as I can remember.. ALL SOFTWARE FOR FREE! and I vote that also this new step .. the HARDWARE, must be offered for free as well.
Maybe this isn't possible and that IS understandable. Hardware is usually not as easy to copy as some ****ty little program that can unlock a phone.

I say give these people here a change to gain this knowledge whitout having to pay so ****ing much for it. In most countries this stuff is illegal and buying 900 bucks of GSM related hardware is tricky. If I could arrange it I would do it in a sec. because I have the money. Still I don't because I learned never to trust any offer out of a forum like this.

Also I would like to mention the following:
There are some people offering stuff (hardware and software) in this forum and others like this one, just to make money.

That might be OK, but that's not OK if they just don't have anything to sell at all. I mean people with BIG-talk about having all kinds of hardware and software to unlock, trace, modify, etc. all of the goods that you would like to unlock, trace, modify, etc. Eventually you will end ripped off and pissed off and you can't do anything about it.

Because this is a very difficult situation I think that these sort of offers don't belong in a forum like this.

The offer of GSM TECHNICAL is very nice and if there would be an other way I know that most of the people here would like to buy this equipment.
It's very tricy to buy such illegal hardware over the internet without knowing if you are ever going to get it.
I say that offers like these belong somewhere else and if that means that hobbyists like me and others that come here can't buy this stuff then so be it!

This is a forum and in a forum like this people should be able to gain knowledge about topics that are discussed here. They should not be exploited, they should be helped.

regards,
Sander Spierenburg aka MrProdent

email: [email protected]

GSM Pirate · 10-23-1999, 13:41

Just as u say it!!!!

GSM Pirate · 10-24-1999, 06:50

I think that everbody who has the same Opinon
should post it here!!!!!!

and the Mod of this Forum should delete all this topics where software is not for free!
Than maybe this forum will be more productive!

Let´s kick some dealer asses

------------------
keep on piratin`.....GSM Pirate

steve · 10-24-1999, 08:07

OK ...
There is few peoples called MODERATORS...
they can close topic or block usrname or IP address ....
Why they simple don't do it...?????

mosti · 10-25-1999, 23:57

Thats right what MrProdent says and write !!!
All software for free. We must help others and not enrich ourselves at their helplessness.

**zfrank** · 10-27-1999, 14:50

Ok
i read your messages and in 1-2 days I give a answer.. I must think about....

TheDon · 10-27-1999, 15:00

I completely agree with MrProdent and all the others! If zfrank gives the okay, I'd love to delete topics from the 6150 forum where people try get rich! Because in my opinion 99% of those guys are fake! Just like Mr. Andrew Bennett who promised me to unlock my old 6150. And I never got it back! He said it must have been lost by the mail somewhere, so what can I do? **** those people and keep the forum free to pass knowledge to others!
Regards,
TheDon

smilisav · 10-27-1999, 16:34

MrProdent, I just wanted to thank you for
reminding us all about the intention of
this forum. I agree with you completely,
both for free soft & possibly hardware
(at least shematics and advices about it
could certainly be free).

I also agree with all other messages and
hope Zfrank will give the OK!

Regards, smilisav

10-27-1999, 23:15

Well i will get a respose from frank for this situation!!!

Frank i kontakt you...

regards

kyiv · 10-28-1999, 03:15

Hi People !!
I spend best part of my life in Soviet Union, and I know that YOU ALL will newer reach
your goal with any kind of limitation.
You can be a master of forum but You not allowed to be "MOST EQUAL"(read Orwell).
I hate ****ing traders of free stuff.
Them must die , but not limited or killed.
Best You can make - make this information
free in special topic ,where moderator
or WIP can post info about such jerk.
(Best - with IP)
This way them will not be able to get
any new nest , and all juniors and guests
will know them as well.
-More:Info about fake programms will be
good too.

Best Hacking,Make a JerkList.

MrProdent · 10-28-1999, 18:51

Hello everybody,

First of all I would like to thank everyone for the positive attitude. This has made me believe in this forum again.

I would also like to take this as a opportunity to react on kyiv's reply and make a second statement.

kyiv, what are you doing calling yourself a "hacker"? What the hell are you thinking man?

Let's get some facts straid here. Most of the tricks, software and hardware (schematics or full parts) are on the internet.

Yes it's all right here on the internet and what I hate is, that some people make money of the fact that they know where to download the stuff. I say "knowing where you can get it" does not make you a hacker". It doesn't make me a hacker although everybody says so.

Most of the people here started to look for these things because they were interested and wanted to know a little more about it (I did). Okay this might be a little naïve but I believe most of them did.

This "software for free"-idea came from the fact, that lot's of arrogant little ****ers who got their hand on some software that could unlock phones decided to sell the stuff. But they didn't do a damn thing for it.
A few resourcefull people decided that it could not go on like that. Why? because most of them wrote that same software and saw that some other guy was making a ****-load of money off of it.

A hacker is someone which intentions are to get the information he/she wants to have (the "information should be free" idea!, think of an anarchist) and sometimes this means breaking the law.
A hacker is NOT a capitalistic sone of a bitch that wants to make as many money over the backs of others knowlegde or work. You stupid IDIOT!

I hate it when people like that call themselves hackers.

regards,
MrProdent

GSM Pirate · 10-28-1999, 21:34

A few things to say:
1. I hope the moderator of this forum will not just close but delete all topics
where the want to sell free software!!!
2. The idiots called SPUNLOCKER 2000 contacted me to get the adres of my page
but I told them to P... OFF!
These are the people who wants to sale some fakes for 900$
3. And that was the reason why I tryed to hide my page from such suckers!
4. But now I believe the bad times are over
so here it is...
http://www.geocities.com/gsm_expert_2000

It´s nothing special, it´s just my way to say
" thanx " to people where I were able to download this progs for FREE!

------------------
keep on piratin`.....GSM Pirate

mona · 10-29-1999, 14:25

I must say: this is something what is rare in this ****y world, keep doing it!!mona

kyiv · 10-29-1999, 20:45

-----For MrProdent Personally -----

You,Smart Debill first read the book
named "1984" ,than come back to tell "sorry".
Hope You read English?

Senior · 10-29-1999, 22:03

Hey, hey, MrProdent & Kyiv !!!
Gentlemen, what is here going on?
Please try to be a bit more friendly...

Keep smiling :-)
Senior

10-23-1999, 13:26	#1 (permalink)
MrProdent Freak Poster Join Date: May 1999 Location: lelystad,fl,nederland Posts: 86 Member: 82 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 10	I would like to say something IMPORTANT! Yes.. and what might that be?? Well I have a simple question (with a statement) What is happening here? People are selling stuff here! I thought that this was NOT the meaning of this forum. The people who started this forum didn't mention anything, to anybody, about eventually turning it in to a commercial site where everybody can just offer any GSM-related software or hardware. The intention was, as I can remember.. ALL SOFTWARE FOR FREE! and I vote that also this new step .. the HARDWARE, must be offered for free as well. Maybe this isn't possible and that IS understandable. Hardware is usually not as easy to copy as some **ty little program that can unlock a phone. I say give these people here a change to gain this knowledge whitout having to pay so **ing much for it. In most countries this stuff is illegal and buying 900 bucks of GSM related hardware is tricky. If I could arrange it I would do it in a sec. because I have the money. Still I don't because I learned never to trust any offer out of a forum like this. Also I would like to mention the following: There are some people offering stuff (hardware and software) in this forum and others like this one, just to make money. That might be OK, but that's not OK if they just don't have anything to sell at all. I mean people with BIG-talk about having all kinds of hardware and software to unlock, trace, modify, etc. all of the goods that you would like to unlock, trace, modify, etc. Eventually you will end ripped off and pissed off and you can't do anything about it. Because this is a very difficult situation I think that these sort of offers don't belong in a forum like this. The offer of GSM TECHNICAL is very nice and if there would be an other way I know that most of the people here would like to buy this equipment. It's very tricy to buy such illegal hardware over the internet without knowing if you are ever going to get it. I say that offers like these belong somewhere else and if that means that hobbyists like me and others that come here can't buy this stuff then so be it! This is a forum and in a forum like this people should be able to gain knowledge about topics that are discussed here. They should not be exploited, they should be helped. regards, Sander Spierenburg aka MrProdent email: [email protected]

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10-23-1999, 13:41	#2 (permalink)
GSM Pirate Junior Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 28 Member: 519 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Just as u say it!!!!

10-24-1999, 06:50	#3 (permalink)
GSM Pirate Junior Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 28 Member: 519 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I think that everbody who has the same Opinon should post it here!!!!!! and the Mod of this Forum should delete all this topics where software is not for free! Than maybe this forum will be more productive! Let´s kick some dealer asses ------------------ keep on piratin`.....GSM Pirate

10-24-1999, 08:07	#4 (permalink)
steve Insane Poster Join Date: May 1999 Location: Yugoslavia Posts: 81 Member: 138 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 6	OK ... There is few peoples called MODERATORS... they can close topic or block usrname or IP address .... Why they simple don't do it...?????

10-25-1999, 23:57	#5 (permalink)
mosti Junior Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: vienna,austria Posts: 6 Member: 546 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Thats right what MrProdent says and write !!! All software for free. We must help others and not enrich ourselves at their helplessness.

10-27-1999, 14:50	#6 (permalink)
zfrank Administrator Join Date: May 1999 Location: 123 Age: 53 Posts: 4,243 Member: 3 Status: Offline Sonork: [email protected] pm or email Thanks Meter: 1,538	Ok i read your messages and in 1-2 days I give a answer.. I must think about....

10-27-1999, 15:00	#7 (permalink)
TheDon Major Poster Join Date: May 1999 Location: Duesseldorf, Germany Posts: 36 Member: 30 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	I completely agree with MrProdent and all the others! If zfrank gives the okay, I'd love to delete topics from the 6150 forum where people try get rich! Because in my opinion 99% of those guys are fake! Just like Mr. Andrew Bennett who promised me to unlock my old 6150. And I never got it back! He said it must have been lost by the mail somewhere, so what can I do? ** those people and keep the forum free to pass knowledge to others! Regards, TheDon**

10-27-1999, 16:34	#8 (permalink)
smilisav Junior Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Belgrade, Yugoslavia Posts: 14 Member: 486 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	MrProdent, I just wanted to thank you for reminding us all about the intention of this forum. I agree with you completely, both for free soft & possibly hardware (at least shematics and advices about it could certainly be free). I also agree with all other messages and hope Zfrank will give the OK! Regards, smilisav

10-27-1999, 23:15	#9 (permalink)
Jefferson Guest Posts: n/a Member:	Well i will get a respose from frank for this situation!!! Frank i kontakt you... regards

10-28-1999, 03:15	#10 (permalink)
kyiv Junior Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: UKRAINE Posts: 25 Member: 360 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Hi People !! I spend best part of my life in Soviet Union, and I know that YOU ALL will newer reach your goal with any kind of limitation. You can be a master of forum but You not allowed to be "MOST EQUAL"(read Orwell). I hate ****ing traders of free stuff. Them must die , but not limited or killed. Best You can make - make this information free in special topic ,where moderator or WIP can post info about such jerk. (Best - with IP) This way them will not be able to get any new nest , and all juniors and guests will know them as well. -More:Info about fake programms will be good too. Best Hacking,Make a JerkList.

10-28-1999, 18:51	#11 (permalink)
MrProdent Freak Poster Join Date: May 1999 Location: lelystad,fl,nederland Posts: 86 Member: 82 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 10	Hello everybody, First of all I would like to thank everyone for the positive attitude. This has made me believe in this forum again. I would also like to take this as a opportunity to react on kyiv's reply and make a second statement. kyiv, what are you doing calling yourself a "hacker"? What the hell are you thinking man? Let's get some facts straid here. Most of the tricks, software and hardware (schematics or full parts) are on the internet. Yes it's all right here on the internet and what I hate is, that some people make money of the fact that they know where to download the stuff. I say "knowing where you can get it" does not make you a hacker". It doesn't make me a hacker although everybody says so. Most of the people here started to look for these things because they were interested and wanted to know a little more about it (I did). Okay this might be a little naïve but I believe most of them did. This "software for free"-idea came from the fact, that lot's of arrogant little **ers who got their hand on some software that could unlock phones decided to sell the stuff. But they didn't do a damn thing for it. A few resourcefull people decided that it could not go on like that. Why? because most of them wrote that same software and saw that some other guy was making a **-load of money off of it. A hacker is someone which intentions are to get the information he/she wants to have (the "information should be free" idea!, think of an anarchist) and sometimes this means breaking the law. A hacker is NOT a capitalistic sone of a bitch that wants to make as many money over the backs of others knowlegde or work. You stupid IDIOT! I hate it when people like that call themselves hackers. regards, MrProdent

10-28-1999, 21:34	#12 (permalink)
GSM Pirate Junior Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 28 Member: 519 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	A few things to say: 1. I hope the moderator of this forum will not just close but delete all topics where the want to sell free software!!! 2. The idiots called SPUNLOCKER 2000 contacted me to get the adres of my page but I told them to P... OFF! These are the people who wants to sale some fakes for 900$ 3. And that was the reason why I tryed to hide my page from such suckers! 4. But now I believe the bad times are over so here it is... http://www.geocities.com/gsm_expert_2000 It´s nothing special, it´s just my way to say " thanx " to people where I were able to download this progs for FREE! ------------------ keep on piratin`.....GSM Pirate

10-29-1999, 14:25	#13 (permalink)
mona Junior Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: slv Posts: 7 Member: 606 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I must say: this is something what is rare in this ****y world, keep doing it!!mona

10-29-1999, 20:45	#14 (permalink)
kyiv Junior Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: UKRAINE Posts: 25 Member: 360 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	-----For MrProdent Personally ----- You,Smart Debill first read the book named "1984" ,than come back to tell "sorry". Hope You read English?

10-29-1999, 22:03	#15 (permalink)
Senior Freak Poster Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 123 Member: 8 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 21	Hey, hey, MrProdent & Kyiv !!! Gentlemen, what is here going on? Please try to be a bit more friendly... Keep smiling :-) Senior