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v11 · 05-14-2010, 07:11

I wonder if you remove some updates and boxing Martech box II ...?

Need update for new model RCD ...

ex. Kenwood ..All

and I gave money for this box and activation.

br

Holden · 05-14-2010, 09:45

RCD is normal supported all the time, we didn't stop anything, now we are rebuilding GUI design to latest one.

About latest Kenwoods - it was told on the day of PRO launching that we will release free PC application for PRO users. We will do also other promised tools for PRO users.

So conclusion is, if you need things that PRO is offering now and will offer in future look for Martech CLIP and activate PRO on it.

if you have more doubts contact me on PM.
regards

Bmt_HR · 05-14-2010, 12:24

On other Martech forum you are closed my topic about that theme.

But what wll be happen if I buy Clip and RCD Pro... Than you'll make RCD Pro II and all updates will be availabe for Pro II users-boxes because you are promise him (this is example). This thing are happened with our RCD activations!

Now, You can close this topic too!

Regards

Tech mobil · 05-14-2010, 12:40

You are trying to force us to give you free update for PRO but you are RCD user. User might choose what they need, and we as producer knows what to add to exact device.
We closed topic because you are not listening what we are saying and since we don't have time to stupid games and repeating we are not going to talk about this anymore.
You already know how RCD PRO works and what RCD PRO is.

There is no technical possibility to use RCD PRO on other device than MARTECH CLIP and the final.
Clip isn't new device, it's 5 years old and if you choose it before.
Regarding RCD updates, it's all the time updated for new models, so I don't understand totally what are you talking about.

EOT

Holden · 05-14-2010, 12:58

One more thing, RCD and RCD PRO are totally different tools with independent updates and radios supported.
Maybe you are thinking that releasing RCD PRO means end of normal RCD but I told it already, we didn't stop updates and we will release also new Tools.

regards

Bmt_HR · 05-14-2010, 12:59

@Tech mobil

OK, you don't understand me!
Once again:

Will you do this Kenwood update for Box II Plus users? If no then you are cheating us!

Is that clear enough.

Regards

Bmt_HR · 05-14-2010, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holden

One more thing, RCD and RCD PRO are totally different tools with independent updates and radios supported.
Maybe you are thinking that releasing RCD PRO means end of normal RCD but I told it already, we didn't stop updates and we will release also new Tools.

regards

OK, Waiting to see new update. Thank you!

Holden · 05-14-2010, 13:24

@Bmt_HR

I think your post has second side. You are expecting update for your KDC-W5031 which you know is hard to decode, due of so called flying algo inside. You knew supported models list while buying RCD.

Latest RCD PRO PC doesn't decode it neither. Anyway we are working on it and when it will be ready then it will be inside PRO PC for sure.

regards

Bmt_HR · 05-14-2010, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holden

@Bmt_HR

I think your post has second side. You are expecting update for your KDC-W5031 which you know is hard to decode, due of so called flying algo inside. You knew supported models list while buying RCD.

Latest RCD PRO PC doesn't decode it neither. Anyway we are working on it and when it will be ready then it will be inside PRO PC for sure.

regards

Yes, it's true. I waiting for this update and as I can see now I'm cheated. Clip is 5 year old tool, but your PC Pro tool is new tool and when I buy RCD nobody tell me that you'll release new tool few days after I bought RCD and this new tool will get all interesting updates.

Thank you very much for your great support to your RCD customers!

Holden · 05-14-2010, 14:23

You weren't cheated because W5031 wasn't on supported list.

I will tell more, if you could know RCD PRO will be released you won't buy it because you have been seen only Kenwood in plans and you would not trust it's possible to make.
if you work with car radios why you bought is so late ? during almost year after release..

we will follow the way of updates, you won't push us to change simply rules.
regards

Bmt_HR · 05-14-2010, 14:42

I didn't tell that I'm cheated because W5031 wasn't supported yet. I'm cheated because good and interesting updates you make for Clip not for both clip and box II plus.

About my work, I'm in this job more then 12 years, unlock (or decode) thousands of car radios, have lot's of programmers and tools for this job. Why I buy your product? Now, I don't know, too!

Maybe because I don't need to desolder TMS mcu from Delco or just from interest, but believe me I bought this in first place because I believe to you Martech team that you'll not disappointing your users. Now, I'm not sure!

Regards

Holden · 05-14-2010, 19:51

If you can adopt lcd from CLIP to Box2 Plus and make firmware for this then I will give you free RCD PRO activations.

Don't tell about quantity of radios you decode, for me important is quality not the quantity.

Moreover if you are so experienced I'm really puzzled from your words.
EOT.

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v11 No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: RIFF-XILINX Posts: 993 Member: 214827 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1597158 Thanks Meter: 59	@ Martech Team I wonder if you remove some updates and boxing Martech box II ...? Need update for new model RCD ... ex. Kenwood ..All and I gave money for this box and activation. br

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05-14-2010, 09:45	#2 (permalink)
Holden Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: poland Age: 45 Posts: 208 Member: 11400 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.110305 Thanks Meter: 310	RCD is normal supported all the time, we didn't stop anything, now we are rebuilding GUI design to latest one. About latest Kenwoods - it was told on the day of PRO launching that we will release free PC application for PRO users. We will do also other promised tools for PRO users. So conclusion is, if you need things that PRO is offering now and will offer in future look for Martech CLIP and activate PRO on it. if you have more doubts contact me on PM. regards

05-14-2010, 12:24	#3 (permalink)
Bmt_HR No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Croatia Age: 48 Posts: 966 Member: 9568 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 209	On other Martech forum you are closed my topic about that theme. But what wll be happen if I buy Clip and RCD Pro... Than you'll make RCD Pro II and all updates will be availabe for Pro II users-boxes because you are promise him (this is example). This thing are happened with our RCD activations! Now, You can close this topic too! Regards

05-14-2010, 12:40	#4 (permalink)
Tech mobil No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Poland Jasło Age: 48 Posts: 1,139 Member: 186466 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.112959 Thanks Meter: 9,125	You are trying to force us to give you free update for PRO but you are RCD user. User might choose what they need, and we as producer knows what to add to exact device. We closed topic because you are not listening what we are saying and since we don't have time to stupid games and repeating we are not going to talk about this anymore. You already know how RCD PRO works and what RCD PRO is. There is no technical possibility to use RCD PRO on other device than MARTECH CLIP and the final. Clip isn't new device, it's 5 years old and if you choose it before. Regarding RCD updates, it's all the time updated for new models, so I don't understand totally what are you talking about. EOT

05-14-2010, 12:58	#5 (permalink)
Holden Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: poland Age: 45 Posts: 208 Member: 11400 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.110305 Thanks Meter: 310	One more thing, RCD and RCD PRO are totally different tools with independent updates and radios supported. Maybe you are thinking that releasing RCD PRO means end of normal RCD but I told it already, we didn't stop updates and we will release also new Tools. regards

05-14-2010, 12:59	#6 (permalink)
Bmt_HR No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Croatia Age: 48 Posts: 966 Member: 9568 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 209	@Tech mobil OK, you don't understand me! Once again: Will you do this Kenwood update for Box II Plus users? If no then you are cheating us! Is that clear enough. Regards

05-14-2010, 13:24	#8 (permalink)
Holden Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: poland Age: 45 Posts: 208 Member: 11400 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.110305 Thanks Meter: 310	@Bmt_HR I think your post has second side. You are expecting update for your KDC-W5031 which you know is hard to decode, due of so called flying algo inside. You knew supported models list while buying RCD. Latest RCD PRO PC doesn't decode it neither. Anyway we are working on it and when it will be ready then it will be inside PRO PC for sure. regards

05-14-2010, 14:23	#10 (permalink)
Holden Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: poland Age: 45 Posts: 208 Member: 11400 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.110305 Thanks Meter: 310	You weren't cheated because W5031 wasn't on supported list. I will tell more, if you could know RCD PRO will be released you won't buy it because you have been seen only Kenwood in plans and you would not trust it's possible to make. if you work with car radios why you bought is so late ? during almost year after release.. we will follow the way of updates, you won't push us to change simply rules. regards

05-14-2010, 14:42	#11 (permalink)
Bmt_HR No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Croatia Age: 48 Posts: 966 Member: 9568 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 209	I didn't tell that I'm cheated because W5031 wasn't supported yet. I'm cheated because good and interesting updates you make for Clip not for both clip and box II plus. About my work, I'm in this job more then 12 years, unlock (or decode) thousands of car radios, have lot's of programmers and tools for this job. Why I buy your product? Now, I don't know, too! Maybe because I don't need to desolder TMS mcu from Delco or just from interest, but believe me I bought this in first place because I believe to you Martech team that you'll not disappointing your users. Now, I'm not sure! Regards

05-14-2010, 19:51	#12 (permalink)
Holden Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: poland Age: 45 Posts: 208 Member: 11400 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.110305 Thanks Meter: 310	If you can adopt lcd from CLIP to Box2 Plus and make firmware for this then I will give you free RCD PRO activations. Don't tell about quantity of radios you decode, for me important is quality not the quantity. Moreover if you are so experienced I'm really puzzled from your words. EOT.