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kothamamun 07-29-2020 13:13
jtag + big problem fix it urget redmi 8 olive emmc unusable
 
redmi 8 problem was syestem has bee destroyed
after check emmc unusable finally done by flash with chimera
and done.




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layder 07-29-2020 20:28
https://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f67...pport-2838932/

kothamamun 07-30-2020 03:55
Quote:
Originally Posted by layder (Post 14165027)
this not correct solution,fix your software thats detect partition.

layder 07-30-2020 10:41
You can't post aya detail for you problem (info of you eMMC, connectin, etc)

I do not have telepathic abilities to understand how to help you

kothamamun 07-30-2020 14:16
Quote:
Originally Posted by layder (Post 14165696)
You can't post aya detail for you problem (info of you eMMC, connectin, etc)

I do not have telepathic abilities to understand how to help you
i was saved all log my pc desktop as a text but suddely my pc not run.
next time i will post all log but problem still some mmo.................emmc
.

kothamamun 07-30-2020 16:35
Emmc are unusable final solution Fix it
 
This emmc other device find partition but jtag+ not found partition







Code:
Setting interface to EasyJtag2/ISP
Setting bus width to 1 Bit

Setting interface to EasyJtag2/ISP
Setting bus width to 1 Bit
Setting frequence to 36 MHz
CMD Pullup Level: 1810 mV
CMD Active Level: 1862 mV
EMMC Device Information :
EMMC CID: 65646F4D204D4F52128100000615444D
EMMC CSD: D07FFF320F59007FF6DB80001E40001D
EMMC Manufacture :  , EMMC NAME: MMOR , HEX: 4D004D4F5200 , S/N: 00000615 , rev. 0x81
EMMC Manufacture ID: 0x65 , OEM ID: 0x6F , Device Type: Device (removable) , Date: 4/2017
  EMMC ROM 1 (Main User Data) Capacity: 2095982 MB (01FFB6E00000)
  EMMC ROM 2/3 (Boot Partition 1/2) Capacity: 2048 KB (000000200000)
  EMMC RPMB (Replay Protected Memory Block) Capacity: 128 KB (000000020000) Counter: 0 , Response: Maybe not clean
EMMC Permanent Write Protection: No
EMMC Temporary Write Protection: No
Extended CSD Information :
Extended CSD rev: 1.5 (MMC 4.41)
Boot configuration [PARTITION_CONFIG]: 0x78 , Boot from: ROM1 (Main User Area)
Boot Bus Config: 0x00 , width 1bit
H/W Reset Function [RST_N_FUNCTION]: 0x00, RST_n signal is temporarily disabled
Supported partition features [PARTITIONING_SUPPORT]: 0x03
Device supports partitioning features
Device can have enhanced technological features in partitions and user data area
Partition Settings [PARTITION_SETTING_COMPLETED]: 0x00
Backup saved: MMOR_00000615_20200730_075357.extcsd
EMMC Init completed.

Warning: Maybe your emmc damaged

eMMC are unusable.
Code:
Checking security ...
Selected pinout: GEN2 ISP Pinout
Change EasyJTAG Pinout OK
Z3X EasyJtag Software ver. 3.7.0.17
Loading eMMC GEN2 Firmware... IO: 2800 mV
Box S/N: 4CC179F40BE74F5B, ,FW Ver.: 02.52
CMD Pullup Level:2281 mV
CMD Active Level:2744 mV
Box IO Level:2800 mV
CLK Rate:24000 kHz
Bus Width:1bit,SDR
HiPower mode is off!
---------- eMMC Device Information ----------

eMMC CID : 65646F4D204D4F52128100000615444D
eMMC CSD : D07FFF320F59007FF6DB80001E40001D
eMMC Manufacturer ID: 0065 , OEM ID: 646F
eMMC Date: 04/2017  Rev.0x81
eMMC NAME: M MOR  , S/N:      1557
eMMC NAME (HEX): 4D204D4F5220
EMMC ROM1 (Main User Data)  Capacity: 2095982 MB
EMMC ROM2 (Boot Partition 1) Capacity: 2048 kB
EMMC ROM3 (Boot Partition 2) Capacity: 2048 kB
EMMC RPMB (Replay Protected Memory Block) Capacity: 128 kB
EMMC RPMB is not yet programmed (clear) or RPMB Counter failure
EMMC Permanent Write Protection: No
EMMC Temporary Write Protection: No
EMMC Password Locked: No
  Extended CSD rev 1.5 (MMC 4.41)
Boot configuration [PARTITION_CONFIG: 0x78] Boot from:ROM1 (Main User Area)
Boot bus config [177]: 0x00 , width 1bit  , Partition config [179]: 0x78.
H/W reset function [RST_N_FUNCTION]: 0x00
High-capacity WP group size [HC_WP_GRP_SIZE: 0x00000400]
Partitioning Support [PARTITIONING_SUPPORT]: 0x03
 Device support partitioning feature
 Device can have enhanced tech.
Partitioning Setting [PARTITION_SETTING_COMPLETED]: 0x00
---------------------------------------------
Backup saved: M_      1557_20200730_0758.extcsd
Blocks Reading Error (0x0 , 1 , Reason: CMD Timeout Error )
Blocks Reading Error (0x200 , 1 , Reason: CMD Timeout Error )
Warning! Read error 0 strange behavior now likely!
Blocks Reading Error (0x1FFB6DFFE00 , 1 , Reason: CMD Timeout Error )
Warning! Read error 0 strange behavior now likely!
Partition info not found
Done.

Code:

Z3X EasyJtag Software ver. 3.7.0.17
Loading eMMC GEN2 Firmware... IO: 2800 mV
Box S/N: 4CC179F40BE74F5B, ,FW Ver.: 02.52
CMD Pullup Level:2279 mV
CMD Active Level:2741 mV
Box IO Level:2800 mV
CLK Rate:36000 kHz
Bus Width:1bit,SDR
HiPower mode is off!
---------- eMMC Device Information ----------

eMMC CID : 65646F4D204D4F52128100000615444D
eMMC CSD : D07FFF320F59007FF6DB80001E40001D
eMMC Manufacturer ID: 0065 , OEM ID: 646F
eMMC Date: 04/2017  Rev.0x81
eMMC NAME: M MOR  , S/N:      1557
eMMC NAME (HEX): 4D204D4F5220
EMMC ROM1 (Main User Data)  Capacity: 2095982 MB , 0xFFDB7000 pages , 0x1FFB6E00000 bytes
EMMC ROM2 (Boot Partition 1) Capacity: 2048 kB
EMMC ROM3 (Boot Partition 2) Capacity: 2048 kB
EMMC RPMB (Replay Protected Memory Block) Capacity: 128 kB
EMMC RPMB is not yet programmed (clear) or RPMB Counter failure
EMMC Permanent Write Protection: No
EMMC Temporary Write Protection: No
EMMC Password Locked: No
  Extended CSD rev 1.5 (MMC 4.41)
Boot configuration [PARTITION_CONFIG: 0x78] Boot from:ROM1 (Main User Area)
Boot bus config [177]: 0x00 , width 1bit  , Partition config [179]: 0x78.
H/W reset function [RST_N_FUNCTION]: 0x00
High-capacity WP group size [HC_WP_GRP_SIZE: 0x00000400]
Partitioning Support [PARTITIONING_SUPPORT]: 0x03
 Device support partitioning feature
 Device can have enhanced tech.
Partitioning Setting [PARTITION_SETTING_COMPLETED]: 0x00
---------------------------------------------
Backup saved: M_      1557_20200730_0806.extcsd
=============================================
  Extended CSD rev 1.5 (MMC 4.41)
=============================================
Card Supported Command sets [S_CMD_SET: 0x01]
HPI Features [HPI_FEATURE: 0x01]:
implementation based on CMD13
Background operations support [BKOPS_SUPPORT: 0x00]
Background operations status [BKOPS_STATUS: 0x00]
1st Initialisation Time after programmed sector [INI_TIMEOUT_AP: 0x00]
Power class for 52MHz, DDR at 3.6V [PWR_CL_DDR_52_360: 0x00]
Power class for 52MHz, DDR at 1.95V [PWR_CL_DDR_52_195: 0x00]
Minimum Performance for 8bit at 52MHz in DDR mode:
 [MIN_PERF_DDR_W_8_52: 0x00]
 [MIN_PERF_DDR_R_8_52: 0x00]
TRIM Multiplier [TRIM_MULT: 0x00]
Secure Feature support [SEC_FEATURE_SUPPORT: 0x15]
Secure Erase Multiplier [SEC_ERASE_MULT: 0x00]
Secure TRIM Multiplier [SEC_TRIM_MULT: 0x00]
Boot Information [BOOT_INFO: 0x01]
 Device supports alternative boot method
Boot partition size [BOOT_SIZE_MULTI: 0x10]
Access size [ACC_SIZE: 0x06]
High-capacity erase unit size [HC_ERASE_GRP_SIZE: 0x01]
High-capacity erase timeout [ERASE_TIMEOUT_MULT: 0x00]
Reliable write sector count [REL_WR_SEC_C: 0x08]
High-capacity W protect group size [HC_WP_GRP_SIZE: 0x01]
Sleep current (VCC) [S_C_VCC: 0x00]
Sleep current (VCCQ) [S_C_VCCQ: 0x00]
Sleep/awake timeout [S_A_TIMEOUT: 0x00]
Sector Count [SEC_COUNT: 0x003ab800]
Minimum Write Performance for 8bit:
 [MIN_PERF_W_8_52: 0x00]
 [MIN_PERF_R_8_52: 0x00]
 [MIN_PERF_W_8_26_4_52: 0x00]
 [MIN_PERF_R_8_26_4_52: 0x00]
Minimum Write Performance for 4bit:
 [MIN_PERF_W_4_26: 0x00]
 [MIN_PERF_R_4_26: 0x00]
Power classes registers:
 [PWR_CL_26_360: 0x00]
 [PWR_CL_52_360: 0x00]
 [PWR_CL_26_195: 0x00]
 [PWR_CL_52_195: 0x00]
Partition switching timing [PARTITION_SWITCH_TIME: 0x00]
Out-of-interrupt busy timing [OUT_OF_INTERRUPT_TIME: 0x00]
Card Type [CARD_TYPE: 0x03]
HS eMMC @52MHz - at rated device voltage(s)
CSD structure version [CSD_STRUCTURE: 0x02]
Command set [CMD_SET: 0x00]
Command set revision [CMD_SET_REV: 0x00]
Power class [POWER_CLASS: 0x00]
High-speed interface timing [HS_TIMING: 0x00]
Erased memory content [ERASED_MEM_CONT: 0x00]
Boot configuration bytes [PARTITION_CONFIG: 0x78]
 No access to boot partition
Boot config protection [BOOT_CONFIG_PROT: 0x00]
Boot bus Conditions [BOOT_BUS_CONDITIONS: 0x00]
High-density erase group definition [ERASE_GROUP_DEF: 0x00]
Boot write protection status registers [BOOT_WP_STATUS]: 0x00
Boot Area Write protection [BOOT_WP]: 0x00
Power ReadOnly locking: possible
Permanent ReadOnly locking: possible
Read Only lock status: not locked
User area write protection register [USER_WP]: 0x00
FW configuration [FW_CONFIG]: 0x00
RPMB Size [RPMB_SIZE_MULT]: 0x01
Write reliability setting register [WR_REL_SET]: 0x00
Write reliability parameter register [WR_REL_PARAM]: 0x00
Enable background operations handshake [BKOPS_EN]: 0x00
H/W reset function [RST_N_FUNCTION]: 0x00
HPI management [HPI_MGMT]: 0x00
Partitioning Support [PARTITIONING_SUPPORT]: 0x03
 Device support partitioning feature
 Device can have enhanced tech.
Max Enhanced Area Size [MAX_ENH_SIZE_MULT]: 0x000100
Partitions attribute [PARTITIONS_ATTRIBUTE]: 0x00
Partitioning Setting [PARTITION_SETTING_COMPLETED]: 0x00
General Purpose Partition Size [GP_SIZE_MULT_4]: 0x000000
 [GP_SIZE_MULT_3]: 0x000000
 [GP_SIZE_MULT_2]: 0x000000
 [GP_SIZE_MULT_1]: 0x000000
Enhanced User Data Area Size [ENH_SIZE_MULT]: 0x000000
Enhanced User Data Start Address [ENH_START_ADDR]: 0x000000
Bad Block Management mode [SEC_BAD_BLK_MGMNT]: 0x00
Blocks Reading Error (0x0 , 1 , Reason: CMD Timeout Error )
Blocks Reading Error (0x200 , 1 , Reason: CMD Timeout Error )
Warning! Read error 0 strange behavior now likely!
Blocks Reading Error (0x1FFB6DFFE00 , 1 , Reason: CMD Timeout Error )
Warning! Read error 0 strange behavior now likely!
Partition info not found
Done.

Z3X EasyJtag Software ver. 3.7.0.17
Loading eMMC GEN2 Firmware... IO: 2800 mV
Box S/N: 4CC179F40BE74F5B, ,FW Ver.: 02.52
CMD Pullup Level:2279 mV
CMD Active Level:2741 mV
Box IO Level:2800 mV
CLK Rate:36000 kHz
Bus Width:1bit,SDR
HiPower mode is off!
---------- eMMC Device Information ----------

eMMC CID : 65646F4D204D4F52128100000615444D
eMMC CSD : D07FFF320F59007FF6DB80001E40001D
eMMC Manufacturer ID: 0065 , OEM ID: 646F
eMMC Date: 04/2017  Rev.0x81
eMMC NAME: M MOR  , S/N:      1557
eMMC NAME (HEX): 4D204D4F5220
EMMC ROM1 (Main User Data)  Capacity: 2095982 MB , 0xFFDB7000 pages , 0x1FFB6E00000 bytes
EMMC ROM2 (Boot Partition 1) Capacity: 2048 kB
EMMC ROM3 (Boot Partition 2) Capacity: 2048 kB
EMMC RPMB (Replay Protected Memory Block) Capacity: 128 kB
EMMC RPMB is not yet programmed (clear) or RPMB Counter failure
EMMC Permanent Write Protection: No
EMMC Temporary Write Protection: No
EMMC Password Locked: No
  Extended CSD rev 1.5 (MMC 4.41)
Boot configuration [PARTITION_CONFIG: 0x78] Boot from:ROM1 (Main User Area)
Boot bus config [177]: 0x00 , width 1bit  , Partition config [179]: 0x78.
H/W reset function [RST_N_FUNCTION]: 0x00
High-capacity WP group size [HC_WP_GRP_SIZE: 0x00000400]
Partitioning Support [PARTITIONING_SUPPORT]: 0x03
 Device support partitioning feature
 Device can have enhanced tech.
Partitioning Setting [PARTITION_SETTING_COMPLETED]: 0x00
---------------------------------------------
Backup saved: M_      1557_20200730_0808.extcsd
=============================================
  Extended CSD rev 1.5 (MMC 4.41)
=============================================
Card Supported Command sets [S_CMD_SET: 0x01]
HPI Features [HPI_FEATURE: 0x01]:
implementation based on CMD13
Background operations support [BKOPS_SUPPORT: 0x00]
Background operations status [BKOPS_STATUS: 0x00]
1st Initialisation Time after programmed sector [INI_TIMEOUT_AP: 0x00]
Power class for 52MHz, DDR at 3.6V [PWR_CL_DDR_52_360: 0x00]
Power class for 52MHz, DDR at 1.95V [PWR_CL_DDR_52_195: 0x00]
Minimum Performance for 8bit at 52MHz in DDR mode:
 [MIN_PERF_DDR_W_8_52: 0x00]
 [MIN_PERF_DDR_R_8_52: 0x00]
TRIM Multiplier [TRIM_MULT: 0x00]
Secure Feature support [SEC_FEATURE_SUPPORT: 0x15]
Secure Erase Multiplier [SEC_ERASE_MULT: 0x00]
Secure TRIM Multiplier [SEC_TRIM_MULT: 0x00]
Boot Information [BOOT_INFO: 0x01]
 Device supports alternative boot method
Boot partition size [BOOT_SIZE_MULTI: 0x10]
Access size [ACC_SIZE: 0x06]
High-capacity erase unit size [HC_ERASE_GRP_SIZE: 0x01]
High-capacity erase timeout [ERASE_TIMEOUT_MULT: 0x00]
Reliable write sector count [REL_WR_SEC_C: 0x08]
High-capacity W protect group size [HC_WP_GRP_SIZE: 0x01]
Sleep current (VCC) [S_C_VCC: 0x00]
Sleep current (VCCQ) [S_C_VCCQ: 0x00]
Sleep/awake timeout [S_A_TIMEOUT: 0x00]
Sector Count [SEC_COUNT: 0x003ab800]
Minimum Write Performance for 8bit:
 [MIN_PERF_W_8_52: 0x00]
 [MIN_PERF_R_8_52: 0x00]
 [MIN_PERF_W_8_26_4_52: 0x00]
 [MIN_PERF_R_8_26_4_52: 0x00]
Minimum Write Performance for 4bit:
 [MIN_PERF_W_4_26: 0x00]
 [MIN_PERF_R_4_26: 0x00]
Power classes registers:
 [PWR_CL_26_360: 0x00]
 [PWR_CL_52_360: 0x00]
 [PWR_CL_26_195: 0x00]
 [PWR_CL_52_195: 0x00]
Partition switching timing [PARTITION_SWITCH_TIME: 0x00]
Out-of-interrupt busy timing [OUT_OF_INTERRUPT_TIME: 0x00]
Card Type [CARD_TYPE: 0x03]
HS eMMC @52MHz - at rated device voltage(s)
CSD structure version [CSD_STRUCTURE: 0x02]
Command set [CMD_SET: 0x00]
Command set revision [CMD_SET_REV: 0x00]
Power class [POWER_CLASS: 0x00]
High-speed interface timing [HS_TIMING: 0x00]
Erased memory content [ERASED_MEM_CONT: 0x00]
Boot configuration bytes [PARTITION_CONFIG: 0x78]
 No access to boot partition
Boot config protection [BOOT_CONFIG_PROT: 0x00]
Boot bus Conditions [BOOT_BUS_CONDITIONS: 0x00]
High-density erase group definition [ERASE_GROUP_DEF: 0x00]
Boot write protection status registers [BOOT_WP_STATUS]: 0x00
Boot Area Write protection [BOOT_WP]: 0x00
Power ReadOnly locking: possible
Permanent ReadOnly locking: possible
Read Only lock status: not locked
User area write protection register [USER_WP]: 0x00
FW configuration [FW_CONFIG]: 0x00
RPMB Size [RPMB_SIZE_MULT]: 0x01
Write reliability setting register [WR_REL_SET]: 0x00
Write reliability parameter register [WR_REL_PARAM]: 0x00
Enable background operations handshake [BKOPS_EN]: 0x00
H/W reset function [RST_N_FUNCTION]: 0x00
HPI management [HPI_MGMT]: 0x00
Partitioning Support [PARTITIONING_SUPPORT]: 0x03
 Device support partitioning feature
 Device can have enhanced tech.
Max Enhanced Area Size [MAX_ENH_SIZE_MULT]: 0x000100
Partitions attribute [PARTITIONS_ATTRIBUTE]: 0x00
Partitioning Setting [PARTITION_SETTING_COMPLETED]: 0x00
General Purpose Partition Size [GP_SIZE_MULT_4]: 0x000000
 [GP_SIZE_MULT_3]: 0x000000
 [GP_SIZE_MULT_2]: 0x000000
 [GP_SIZE_MULT_1]: 0x000000
Enhanced User Data Area Size [ENH_SIZE_MULT]: 0x000000
Enhanced User Data Start Address [ENH_START_ADDR]: 0x000000
Bad Block Management mode [SEC_BAD_BLK_MGMNT]: 0x00
Blocks Reading Error (0x0 , 1 , Reason: CMD Timeout Error )
Blocks Reading Error (0x200 , 1 , Reason: CMD Timeout Error )
Warning! Read error 0 strange behavior now likely!
Blocks Reading Error (0x1FFB6DFFE00 , 1 , Reason: CMD Timeout Error )
Warning! Read error 0 strange behavior now likely!
Partition info not found
Done.

Z3X EasyJtag Software ver. 3.7.0.17
Loading eMMC GEN2 Firmware... IO: 2800 mV
Box S/N: 4CC179F40BE74F5B, ,FW Ver.: 02.52
CMD Pullup Level:2277 mV
CMD Active Level:2741 mV
Box IO Level:2800 mV
CLK Rate:36000 kHz
Bus Width:1bit,SDR
HiPower mode is off!
---------- eMMC Device Information ----------

eMMC CID : 65646F4D204D4F52128100000615444D
eMMC CSD : D07FFF320F59007FF6DB80001E40001D
eMMC Manufacturer ID: 0065 , OEM ID: 646F
eMMC Date: 04/2017  Rev.0x81
eMMC NAME: M MOR  , S/N:      1557
eMMC NAME (HEX): 4D204D4F5220
EMMC ROM1 (Main User Data)  Capacity: 2095982 MB
EMMC ROM2 (Boot Partition 1) Capacity: 2048 kB
EMMC ROM3 (Boot Partition 2) Capacity: 2048 kB
EMMC RPMB (Replay Protected Memory Block) Capacity: 128 kB
EMMC RPMB is not yet programmed (clear) or RPMB Counter failure
EMMC Permanent Write Protection: No
EMMC Temporary Write Protection: No
EMMC Password Locked: No
  Extended CSD rev 1.5 (MMC 4.41)
Boot configuration [PARTITION_CONFIG: 0x78] Boot from:ROM1 (Main User Area)
Boot bus config [177]: 0x00 , width 1bit  , Partition config [179]: 0x78.
H/W reset function [RST_N_FUNCTION]: 0x00
High-capacity WP group size [HC_WP_GRP_SIZE: 0x00000400]
Partitioning Support [PARTITIONING_SUPPORT]: 0x03
 Device support partitioning feature
 Device can have enhanced tech.
Partitioning Setting [PARTITION_SETTING_COMPLETED]: 0x00
---------------------------------------------
Backup saved: M_      1557_20200730_0811.extcsd
Blocks Reading Error (0x0 , 1 , Reason: CMD Timeout Error )
Blocks Reading Error (0x200 , 1 , Reason: CMD Timeout Error )
Warning! Read error 0 strange behavior now likely!
Blocks Reading Error (0x1FFB6DFFE00 , 1 , Reason: CMD Timeout Error )
Warning! Read error 0 strange behavior now likely!
Partition info not found
Done.

layder 07-30-2020 18:10
MMOR - it's a Hynix eMMC boot rom
At this mode eMMC can't work with eMMC data

You can look at eMMC ROM1 size - it's not a normal

layder 07-30-2020 18:14
Quote:
Originally Posted by kothamamun (Post 14165935)
i was saved all log my pc desktop as a text but suddely my pc not run.
next time i will post all log but problem still some mmo.................emmc
.
also you seed post eMMC Name, type of connection

kothamamun 07-31-2020 04:18
Quote:
Originally Posted by layder (Post 14166064)
MMOR - it's a Hynix eMMC boot rom
At this mode eMMC can't work with eMMC data

You can look at eMMC ROM1 size - it's not a normal
why you moved my log post this log is not redmi 8 this another emmc

spd cpu bga 153 and chinise phone most of cases these emmc when check emmc are unusable.

layder 07-31-2020 09:35
Quote:
Originally Posted by kothamamun (Post 14166542)
why you moved my log post this log is not redmi 8 this another emmc

spd cpu bga 153 and chinise phone most of cases these emmc when check emmc are unusable.
There is no need to create several topics on the forum with the same problems and without a description of the situation.

The phrase "something does not work for me, but it works there" does not allow developers and support to understand what exactly and in what situation does not work.

The phrase "Fix it" does not explain exactly what to fix.

If you want to receive high-quality answers from support and help develop the product, then instead of 10 photos of the made device, it is better to describe the entire problem in detail so that we can reproduce it


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