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clinic*mobile · 08-12-2005, 08:30

HI

what shcematic for Sim-Emu 6.01 Configurator v2.1?

can i use dejan sim scan shcematic?

dear Sim-Emu

i unknow phoenix hardwar for Sim-Emu

please tell me what hardware can i use i?

i road old post that Sim-Emu can icprog program but how conect?

thanks

Tina_sk9 · 08-12-2005, 12:37

HI,
Yes ,
You can use dejan sim scan reader !
wbr
tina_***

clinic*mobile · 08-14-2005, 06:51

from program dejan or shcematic dejan can i use?

CH@IN · 08-14-2005, 07:20

If you want only to READ the KI, you need a phoenix compatible device (like dejan's schematic).

If you need to program a new, blank Silvercard with Sim-emu firmware, then you need a PIC-programmer.

this are 2 different modes. The Pic-programmer PROGRAMS AND WRITES on the card, the Phoenix-reader COMMUNICATES WITH THE PROGRAM that is already on the card.
This is also the reason why you will always (except the new pll models) find a crystal on a phoenix device (3.579, 6, 10 Mhz) as this is the part for the communication.

the original sim has already a software (firmware) in it, that for you read the content with a..... phoenix.

The silvercard when new is BLANK. There you would make use of a PIC-programmer to write ONCE ONLY the Sim-emu firmware. When this step is done, you can use a phoenix to communicate with your Sim-emu card.

Hope this will clear some of your questions

Regards Chain

Gr8SightMan · 08-15-2005, 11:34

Thanx Ch@in !

you cleared the whole concept simply. you are really helpful. Keep it up

WBR.

clinic*mobile · 08-21-2005, 05:45

very thanx

please give me shcematic about this

CH@IN · 08-21-2005, 08:41

better if you buy a ready one, (1) it will be cheaper than making your own programmer, (2) it will work.

Phoenix reader/writer usualy have no problem with new generation computer, but most "free" circuits for pic-programming have problems as the timing and the voltage are very sensitive factors. i.e. JDM, Ludi and other are giving all work of the programming to the computer (like the Windows-only-modems if you remember). They were built for quick and dirty programming of chips with small capacity thus the programing took only few seconds. Does your computer have a serial port at all? (these were all made for serial port and required pure dos, win95/98/ME only and sometimes with luck... XP)

If you still insist, here is a schematic of a USB programmer that is built from common electronic devices: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=209937

clinic*mobile · 08-21-2005, 22:28

very very thanks

i have pic programer and i have labtool-48

can i use these?

how use?

CH@IN · 08-22-2005, 01:06

I don't know your equipment.,.. there are thousand different out there, just try it, maybe it will work, maybe it won't.

Hey hoop,

Come on, synchronize!

clinic*mobile · 08-22-2005, 06:38

ok

i will try

thanks CH@IN

08-12-2005, 08:30	#1 (permalink)
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08-14-2005, 06:51	#3 (permalink)
clinicmobile Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 47 Posts: 303 Member: 20833 Status: Offline* Thanks Meter: 5	from program dejan or shcematic dejan can i use?

08-14-2005, 07:20	#4 (permalink)
CH@IN Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Getting it to work is easy... making it do the things you want is another thing. Age: 22 Posts: 404 Member: 9824 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 79	If you want only to READ the KI, you need a phoenix compatible device (like dejan's schematic). If you need to program a new, blank Silvercard with Sim-emu firmware, then you need a PIC-programmer. this are 2 different modes. The Pic-programmer PROGRAMS AND WRITES on the card, the Phoenix-reader COMMUNICATES WITH THE PROGRAM that is already on the card. This is also the reason why you will always (except the new pll models) find a crystal on a phoenix device (3.579, 6, 10 Mhz) as this is the part for the communication. the original sim has already a software (firmware) in it, that for you read the content with a..... phoenix. The silvercard when new is BLANK. There you would make use of a PIC-programmer to write ONCE ONLY the Sim-emu firmware. When this step is done, you can use a phoenix to communicate with your Sim-emu card. Hope this will clear some of your questions Regards Chain

08-15-2005, 11:34	#5 (permalink)
Gr8SightMan No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 525 Member: 163076 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 97	Thanx Ch@in ! you cleared the whole concept simply. you are really helpful. Keep it up WBR.

08-21-2005, 05:45	#6 (permalink)
clinicmobile Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 47 Posts: 303 Member: 20833 Status: Offline* Thanks Meter: 5	very thanx please give me shcematic about this

08-21-2005, 08:41	#7 (permalink)
CH@IN Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Getting it to work is easy... making it do the things you want is another thing. Age: 22 Posts: 404 Member: 9824 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 79	better if you buy a ready one, (1) it will be cheaper than making your own programmer, (2) it will work. Phoenix reader/writer usualy have no problem with new generation computer, but most "free" circuits for pic-programming have problems as the timing and the voltage are very sensitive factors. i.e. JDM, Ludi and other are giving all work of the programming to the computer (like the Windows-only-modems if you remember). They were built for quick and dirty programming of chips with small capacity thus the programing took only few seconds. Does your computer have a serial port at all? (these were all made for serial port and required pure dos, win95/98/ME only and sometimes with luck... XP) If you still insist, here is a schematic of a USB programmer that is built from common electronic devices: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=209937

08-21-2005, 22:28	#8 (permalink)
clinicmobile Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 47 Posts: 303 Member: 20833 Status: Offline* Thanks Meter: 5	very very thanks i have pic programer and i have labtool-48 can i use these? how use?

08-22-2005, 01:06	#9 (permalink)
CH@IN Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Getting it to work is easy... making it do the things you want is another thing. Age: 22 Posts: 404 Member: 9824 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 79	I don't know your equipment.,.. there are thousand different out there, just try it, maybe it will work, maybe it won't. Hey hoop, Come on, synchronize!

08-22-2005, 06:38	#10 (permalink)
clinicmobile Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 47 Posts: 303 Member: 20833 Status: Offline* Thanks Meter: 5	ok i will try thanks CH@IN