SBN/ARM Format - GSM-Forum

jheiner · 10-15-2003, 20:35

Simple question, hopefully...

Is there any way to create an SBN/ARM file for use with DIV software?

-Justin

GSMVN · 10-15-2003, 20:43

Creat ??? I think there will a way. But I never heard before ...

SFlood · 10-15-2003, 21:06

Sure. But if you power enough to create phone's firmware, you'll never need any DIV software to upload it

jheiner · 10-15-2003, 21:20

I'm referring to reading the firmware off of an existing phone into SBN/ARM files.

KoTsK · 10-16-2003, 08:05

yeah, like other phone ... download the flash image from a phone and save it into a file ...

SFlood · 10-16-2003, 08:48

Oh.
Yes, SBN is only record-type binary file, like s-rec or hex.
i don't know much about arm (my T300 phone doesn't have it), but i think its pure binary, maybe with start address added.

KoTsK · 10-16-2003, 16:08

is there any program to do that?

SFlood · 10-16-2003, 17:00

i heard about some converter by cage but didn't saw it and don't know about supported formats.

Such converter is very easy to create by yourself at home

jheiner · 10-16-2003, 17:31

it is if you know the format of an sbn, which i don't

SFlood · 10-16-2003, 17:53

try to search the net for S-record format. Its industry standard (presented by Motorola) for binary data framing - like HEX format by Intel.
SBN is completley like s-rec, but only 'S' record identifier and next coming record type are ASCII-symbols, all other data is binary. S-rec have all its data in readable ASCII format, but its eats almost twice the size of sbn and have no another benefits except clear-as-a-text readability.
Thats why ericsson's format called sbn, or s-binary.

KoTsK · 10-16-2003, 18:30

thx for your info, SFlood

i'm wondering if there is any program to read & save the flash image directly from SE phone ... e.g. like V_KLay for Siemens phone, for example

SFlood · 10-16-2003, 20:09

i don't know any free or commercically available software for reading flash image.

jheiner · 10-16-2003, 21:05

Are there any tools that will convert motorola S-Record to Ericsson S-Record?

jheiner · 10-24-2003, 20:40

So, I made a converter to convert regular 1 to 1 firmware .bin files to .sbn format, and made sure that the format matches DIV's format. The phone still won't accept the firmware (it goes through the flashing about twice as fast and doesn't turn on).

It seems the DIV firmware leaves out certain address ranges. Unfortunatly, I don't think it is easily possible to convert a .bin file to a .sbn file that the t68 will accept.

10-15-2003, 20:35	#1 (permalink)
jheiner Crazy Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 54 Member: 25774 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	SBN/ARM Format Simple question, hopefully... Is there any way to create an SBN/ARM file for use with DIV software? -Justin

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KoTsK No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: INDONESIA Posts: 986 Member: 17360 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	thx for your info, SFlood i'm wondering if there is any program to read & save the flash image directly from SE phone ... e.g. like V_KLay for Siemens phone, for example Last edited by KoTsK; 10-16-2003 at 18:44.

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10-15-2003, 20:43	#2 (permalink)
GSMVN Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: www.gsm.com.vn Posts: 394 Member: 36903 Status: Offline Sonork: 64982 Thanks Meter: 2	Creat ??? I think there will a way. But I never heard before ...

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SFlood No Life Poster Join Date: May 1999 Location: RU Posts: 906 Member: 83 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Sure. But if you power enough to create phone's firmware, you'll never need any DIV software to upload it

10-15-2003, 21:20	#4 (permalink)
jheiner Crazy Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 54 Member: 25774 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I'm referring to reading the firmware off of an existing phone into SBN/ARM files.

10-16-2003, 08:05	#5 (permalink)
KoTsK No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: INDONESIA Posts: 986 Member: 17360 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	yeah, like other phone ... download the flash image from a phone and save it into a file ...

10-16-2003, 08:48	#6 (permalink)
SFlood No Life Poster Join Date: May 1999 Location: RU Posts: 906 Member: 83 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Oh. Yes, SBN is only record-type binary file, like s-rec or hex. i don't know much about arm (my T300 phone doesn't have it), but i think its pure binary, maybe with start address added.

10-16-2003, 16:08	#7 (permalink)
KoTsK No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: INDONESIA Posts: 986 Member: 17360 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	is there any program to do that?

10-16-2003, 17:00	#8 (permalink)
SFlood No Life Poster Join Date: May 1999 Location: RU Posts: 906 Member: 83 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	i heard about some converter by cage but didn't saw it and don't know about supported formats. Such converter is very easy to create by yourself at home

10-16-2003, 17:31	#9 (permalink)
jheiner Crazy Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 54 Member: 25774 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	it is if you know the format of an sbn, which i don't

10-16-2003, 17:53	#10 (permalink)
SFlood No Life Poster Join Date: May 1999 Location: RU Posts: 906 Member: 83 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	try to search the net for S-record format. Its industry standard (presented by Motorola) for binary data framing - like HEX format by Intel. SBN is completley like s-rec, but only 'S' record identifier and next coming record type are ASCII-symbols, all other data is binary. S-rec have all its data in readable ASCII format, but its eats almost twice the size of sbn and have no another benefits except clear-as-a-text readability. Thats why ericsson's format called sbn, or s-binary.

10-16-2003, 20:09	#12 (permalink)
SFlood No Life Poster Join Date: May 1999 Location: RU Posts: 906 Member: 83 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	i don't know any free or commercically available software for reading flash image.

10-16-2003, 21:05	#13 (permalink)
jheiner Crazy Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 54 Member: 25774 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Are there any tools that will convert motorola S-Record to Ericsson S-Record?

10-24-2003, 20:40	#14 (permalink)
jheiner Crazy Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 54 Member: 25774 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	So, I made a converter to convert regular 1 to 1 firmware .bin files to .sbn format, and made sure that the format matches DIV's format. The phone still won't accept the firmware (it goes through the flashing about twice as fast and doesn't turn on). It seems the DIV firmware leaves out certain address ranges. Unfortunatly, I don't think it is easily possible to convert a .bin file to a .sbn file that the t68 will accept.