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06-06-2009, 02:33
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| Banned  Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Proud to be a GUARER
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Member: 996201 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 315 | TMA Cable and CYCLONE BOX HOW to Connect explained Quote:
TMA adapter allows to help customers taht got many problem in putting phone into Local mode by existing cables. After connecting thru TMA adapter you will be able to put phone into Local mode without any problems instead of normal powering on phone. Used for: TMA are used for entering phone in Local Mode on factory Fbus cables if they simply power ON phone normally. Adapter will nto work if your phone "blink" while you trying to power it ON. NOTE: Adapter TMA got only one Rj48 socket to which you can connect MT-BOX 10 pin cables or 8 pin UFS cable. Due this we suggest to use it with only one standard of cables so for exampel MTBOX or JAF. The main problem of using one socket are pins in sokcet that can me demaged if you will put Rj45 cable and then try to connect MT-BOx cable (problem are in 2 pins that are missing in RJ45 and are in 10 pin cables). If you want to have adapter that support two kind of standard withtou any problems we suggest to review our EasyConnect 2in1 or 3in1 Features: - possiblity to work on original GTI/MT-BOX 10 pin (Tx2, VPP also enabled) cables and correctly enter Local Mode by switch correct resistance on BSI line (0K; 2,2K; 3,3K; 4.7K; 5.1K, 6.8K, 7.5K, 10K) - possiblity to work on JAF 7 pin cables as well as UFS cables for Nokia and enter Local Mode by switch correct resistance on BSI line (0K; 2,2K; 3,3K; 4.7K; 5.1K, 6.8K, 7.5K, 10K) Specification: - DIP switch for regulate resistance on BSI line * 0,0K * 2,2K * 3,3K * 4.7K * 5.1K * 6.8K * 7.5K * 10K - RJ48 connector and RJ48 for connectign GTi/MTBOX cables with enable TX2 and VPP lines and RJ45 cable for UFS/JAF cables  RJ48 connector and RJ48 for connectign GTi/MTBOX cables with enable TX2 and VPP lines and RJ45 cable for UFS/JAF cables You use only one side at time. And it depends what FBUS cables you have at hand.RJ48 to Box 10pin or RJ45 Box7pin I do not think you can not use TMA on CYCLONE directly you need another cable to covert CYCLONE PINout to GTi/MTBOX or UFS/JAF pinout. Once you have the coverted the CYCLONE pinout to 10pins or 7pins which TMA supports you can use the FBUS Cable, to unlock all DCT4+ and BB5 phones. CycloneBox = JAF/UFS = MT-BOX Cable Pinouts Compared  Also here the ultimate Nokia cable finder.. http://rapidshare.com/files/20774690...Es_PINOUTs.exe http://www.ziddu.com/download/382494...FCABLEsPINOUTs | |
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07-08-2009, 21:35
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| No Life Poster   Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34
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Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689 | It's because one "schematics guy" marks TX as box TX, and seconds one box TX as phone RX  weird but it is . |
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07-08-2009, 21:48
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| No Life Poster  Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: England Age: 59
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Member: 947561 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 14,053 | To be honest been doing some tests on the TMA cable in the last period... Actually what I could see the USB cable used to give more power to the mobile works only if used with standard Jaf input and output.. The original project of the TMA cable was ok as it was working only on the correction of the BSI value which for a pure coincidence using a 10 pin RJ socket is always in the same position.. all the other pins were just pass through.. If you see the pinouts of the boxes the Vbat instead is in a different position (on a 10 pin socket is pin 2 for jaf cables pin 10 for MT-box cables) thsi is the reason why the TMA internal led don't work when used with Cyclone od jaf-like conection boxes but only with mt-box. Load of chance TMA didn't gain a big market with the MT-box users so this "bug" never been discovered. After this observation the best way to use the tma adapter is connecting the TX2 adapter (Yellow cable) to the box and the TMA to the TX2 adapter and use only Jaf-pinouts cables.. May be interesting to know the pro series of Gpg as the UFC are 8 pins cables using the pin 2 as VPP.. so using 8 pin cable with jaf pinouts we get as well the chance to use the VPP to boost the speed during the flashing job. BR Alex |
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07-08-2009, 21:52
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| No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34
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Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689 | IMHO better way would be to make COMBO-USB cable. It will be universal for any box, and it will deliver at least 1000mA. The idea is to make paraller V_USB_5V connection, so voltage will be still 5V but maximum current will be increased to ~1000mA. If you know what i mean, Input: 2 usb ports from PC/notebook Output - USB_B (same used in common boxes) Of course if we talk about voltage, BSI is other story, |
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07-08-2009, 22:05
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| No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: England Age: 59
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Member: 947561 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 14,053 | My suggestion to the cable productors is always to make a Cyclone adaptor which include, apart a little switch to selct DCT4 and BB5 Mode, a bsi correction, a power module with an USB cable as input and two RJ connectors in the output for the MT and the Jaf cables. This one will give to Cyclone the reliability about the power and full compatibility with all the cables on the market.. may be a good idea if you think about modify the TX2 adaptor ;-) Other solution of course is internal power gestion with an external 5V dc power supply which give 5V to the Vbat and an internal DC DC converter to obtain the 9V for the VPP.. RJ48 port MT-box stile and converter MT-box to jaf with Switch for the DCT4/BB5 mode. This is the top level solution but more expensive.. BR Alex |
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07-08-2009, 22:48
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| No Life Poster  Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: RETIRED ! Age: 47
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Member: 348680 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1,273 | Hi i agree with you Alex, and for members interested in adding external power to the box, see this post http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=765590 BR Ptt |
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07-09-2009, 05:16
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| No Life Poster  Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England
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but i Hope a Good reasonable Price Adapter or Power Solution will come soon from GPG for all Cyclone Users | |
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07-09-2009, 05:53
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| No Life Poster  Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: philippines
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Member: 45571 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 45 | I converted my TMA MT10pin to cyclone adaptor because i dont have MTBox so i could use TMA direct to cyclone box.Just remove wire 9 and soldered it direct to cyclone pin 3.While the yellow wire from TMA MT10pin which is cutted i soldered it to pin 9.Now i could use my TMA plugged direct to cyclone box without the yellow adaptor and same time use what it is made for-BSI resistance selector. |
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07-09-2009, 06:52
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| No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: England Age: 59
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Member: 947561 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 14,053 | Quote:
Sorry if I will copy it BR Alex | |
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07-09-2009, 07:40
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| No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: England Age: 59
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Member: 947561 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 14,053 | Quote:
for what i know looks like Gpg is going shortly to give couple of solution for Cyclone like a new Cyclone adapter (With DCT4/bb5 switch and power module) and a new UFC cable with the power solution inside. Shortly all these little problems will be old memories. BR Alex | |
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07-09-2009, 07:42
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| No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: England Age: 59
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Still I think your modify would be nice in the next revision of Cyclonebox Hardware. Here your "Signature" in the new TMA adapter http://files2.kedoz.com/Computer_Tec...AnoniBoard.JPG BR Alex | |
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07-09-2009, 08:40
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| No Life Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: manchester, united kingdom Age: 39
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Member: 288521 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 685 | ]I converted my TMA MT10pin to cyclone adaptor because i dont have MTBox so i could use TMA direct to cyclone box.Just remove wire 9 and soldered it direct to cyclone pin 3.While the yellow wire from TMA MT10pin which is cutted i soldered it to pin 9.Now i could use my TMA plugged direct to cyclone box without the yellow adaptor and same time use what it is made for-BSI resistance selector. pictures of this mod would be great |
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