PM and RPl ????????????

[irfan_gsm]

i want to khow what is RPL and PM in nokia phones

1 RPL is a part of pm file or something else?

2 if RPL is a part of PM which PM field is RPl?

3 why every one says when we write PM in bb5 phones we must remove 306 field?

4 what is NPC file? is it a imei file?

5 is NPC is a part of RPl?

6. when we unlock phones is it a must backup PM and RPL or RPL only?

i know lot of new members like me confusing about RPL and PM

pls help us expers thank you

[irfan_gsm]

pls explain me i am waiting?????????

[srinibas]

Originally Posted by ml_irfan

i want to khow what is RPL and PM in nokia phones

1 RPL is a part of pm file or something else?

2 if RPL is a part of PM which PM field is RPl?

3 why every one says when we write PM in bb5 phones we must remove 306 field?

4 what is NPC file? is it a imei file?

5 is NPC is a part of RPl?

6. when we unlock phones is it a must backup PM and RPL or RPL only?

i know lot of new members like me confusing about RPL and PM

pls help us expers thank you

RPl is not a part of Pm , RPL contain NPC - CCC - HWC & Varient

It is field 308 not 306 , bcoz of it contain SL data ( Not in all Model , Now it is section 120 only ) bcoz SL data not match with other mobile, if it rewrite , can damage your SL data

Yes NPC is IMEI


Yes

No we keep backup only 4 emergency purpose , if at any reason it lost/damage you can restore

[alyasjee]

where to obtain the matching 308 ? how to know this is a certain matching content within the flash version ?

[irfan_gsm]

but simlock date corrupted or invalid in SL3 phone then why we need RPL file to recover simlock data????

(RPl is not a part of Pm , RPL contain NPC - CCC - HWC & Varient ) but simlock store in PM area 120
can any one explain me thanks

[SHIJILFONOTLY]

1 RPL is a part of pm file or something else?
A)RPL IS NOT A PART OF PM
2 if RPL is a part of PM which PM field is RPl?
A)RPL INSIDE-NPC,CCC,HWC,VARIENT
PM FILE INSIDE SIMLOCK,SUPER DONGLEKEY,RF DATA,BASE BAND DATA AND OTHER CALIBRATION DATA
3 why every one says when we write PM in bb5 phones we must remove 306 field?
A)NOT 306
308 FIELD INSIDE SIMLOCK DATA WITH SL1 PHONES(6630,3110 Etc...)
SL2 AND SL3 120 PM FIELD INSIDE THE SIMLOCK DATA
SL3 308 ID WRITE PROTECTED
4 what is NPC file? is it a imei file?
A)NOKIA PUBLIC CERTIFICATE THIS NPC INSIDE THE IMEI NUMBER
5 is NPC is a part of RPl?
A)YES
6. when we unlock phones is it a must backup PM and RPL or RPL only?
A)THIS IS GOOD FOR NEWBI

[irfan_gsm]

i understand . but why we need RPL to repair simlock corrupted????

A)RPL IS NOT A PART OF PM

PM FILE INSIDE SIMLOCK,SUPER DONGLEKEY,RF DATA,BASE BAND DATA AND OTHER CALIBRATION DATA

[irfan_gsm]

i understand . but why we need RPL to repair simlock corrupted????

A)RPL IS NOT A PART OF PM

PM FILE INSIDE SIMLOCK,SUPER DONGLEKEY,RF DATA,BASE BAND DATA AND OTHER CALIBRATION DATA

[irfan_gsm]

sorry for double post. thank you for the help

[irfan_gsm]

still no answer why we need RPL to repair simlock. it is ok RPL need to repair imei. but simlock store in PM not RPL . so any answer???

[oOXTCOo]

rpl is a certificate signed with rsa...

simlocks data in pm is normaly stored only by the phone. (but we missuse it for unlock / repair)

if you send rpl to phone and if signature is ok, the phone accept the rpl and write the data from rpl to pm.

so rpl and pm are different things...

rpl is a certificate and pm is the permanent memory of the phone, where the phone remeber its settings/calibration..

[[Shadab_M]]

Originally Posted by irfan_gsm

still no answer why we need RPL to repair simlock. it is ok RPL need to repair imei. but simlock store in PM not RPL . so any answer???

You may use PM to Repair SIMLOCK, if you had it as Backup.

Original RPLs/Backup RPLs contain SIMLOCK Data.

As SIMLOCK is also Security Data, it is bundled with RPL file. If you don't have Backup, and you need to Repair your phone, your provider, from whom you purchase RPL, will give SIMLOCK + NPC and other certificates in RPL.

There are 2 points, which ever you think is better:
1. If they give you SIMLOCK in PM format, they need to give you 2 files, 1 SIMLOCK PM, and 1 RPL with NPC and other Certificates.
2. If you write SIMLOCK as PM, phone can never tell you if SIMLOCK is good and accepted. It will be written as simple PM. But when a software writes SIMLOCK data to phone in RPL method, phone replies if SIMLOCK was good and accpeted.
Thats why you see in logs "Writing SIMLOCK... Accepted" or "Writing SIMLOCK... Error 0x0x" etc.

Also as Hari told, PM is just a Hierarchical View of what phone has in its NVM. Like you can find SIMLOCK data in PM120, SD and some other important data in PM308.

I hope you got the answer, if not, I will try to learn more to answer your query.

Br,
Shadab Ahmad

[sneha]

Originally Posted by shadab_a4u

You may use PM to Repair SIMLOCK, if you had it as Backup.

Original RPLs/Backup RPLs contain SIMLOCK Data.

As SIMLOCK is also Security Data, it is bundled with RPL file. If you don't have Backup, and you need to Repair your phone, your provider, from whom you purchase RPL, will give SIMLOCK + NPC and other certificates in RPL.

There are 2 points, which ever you think is better:
1. If they give you SIMLOCK in PM format, they need to give you 2 files, 1 SIMLOCK PM, and 1 RPL with NPC and other Certificates.
2. If you write SIMLOCK as PM, phone can never tell you if SIMLOCK is good and accepted. It will be written as simple PM. But when a software writes SIMLOCK data to phone in RPL method, phone replies if SIMLOCK was good and accpeted.
Thats why you see in logs "Writing SIMLOCK... Accepted" or "Writing SIMLOCK... Error 0x0x" etc.

Also as Hari told, PM is just a Hierarchical View of what phone has in its NVM. Like you can find SIMLOCK data in PM120, SD and some other important data in PM308.

I hope you got the answer, if not, I will try to learn more to answer your query.

Br,
Shadab Ahmad

WELCOME BACK FROM 1 month ban

happy to see u again here

[<<SAMRAT>>]

now 1 more question...........i have 1 5233 full pm backup with pm 308 section,now can possible repair imei 1235 of this set with this pm?

[moulnisky]

Originally Posted by <<SAMRAT>>

now 1 more question...........i have 1 5233 full pm backup with pm 308 section,now can possible repair imei 1235 of this set with this pm?

Unluckily not as the pm doesn't have inside the npc certificate where the imei is stored.

BR

Alex