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Old 12-19-2004, 00:22   #1 (permalink)
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Essojay Nec Dongle Cheater Or Not?


ESSOJAY NEC DONGLE CHEATER OR NOT?

On the 26/11/2004 i sent essojay icq:172132106 money 400+"50"=450 pounds for the NEC dongle that i had purchased from him.
including DHL charges today its the 19/12/2004 and has not sent any dongle.Thats exactly 23 days (three weeks)
i have given him money 450 pounds but have not benefited anything at all.

if i where you how would you feel?
Put yourself in my ***** and let me know what action to take.

Also i trusted essojay as a "moderator" of this forum and now this!!
Then whom do we trust here.He has my money and now tells me he has no dongles!

Is Essojay TRUSTABLE or CHEATER or is beginning to have BAD BUSINESS PRACTICES? as mentioned here:

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...3&page=1&pp=15


These are some of the reasons for not sending selected at random:

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Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:23 PM
You have sent a message to essojay
howfar?
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:25 PM
You have received a message from essojay
just a little time more.. later today

****************
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:27 PM
You have received a message from essojay
let me ask you, if you ll have the nec software with Uniclip, will you be prepared to pay like 500pounds?
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:28 PM
You have sent a message to essojay
u mean 100pounds more?
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:29 PM
You have received a message from essojay
yes
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:29 PM
You have sent a message to essojay
its ok np
*****************
Date and Time: 12/03/2004 12:17 AM
You have sent a message to essojay
NEC how far
Date and Time: 12/03/2004 12:17 AM
You have sent a message to essojay
use [email protected]
Date and Time: 12/03/2004 12:19 AM
You have received a message from essojay
ok i send you some details now
*****************
Date and Time: 12/05/2004 09:10 PM
You have received a message from essojay
do it quickly and after send me delivery address i ll send you a dongle when ready
Date and Time: 12/05/2004 09:11 PM
You have received a message from essojay
but you ll pay DHL
******************
You have received a message from essojay
ok.. i l, send to you this night or tomorrow morning.
You have sent a message to essojay
delivery address: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*****************
Date and Time: 12/06/2004 00:16 AM
You have sent a message to essojay
dongle is it lpt or usb?
Date and Time: 12/06/2004 00:16 AM
You have received a message from essojay
lpt
*****************
k. r u sending the dongle or uniclip
Date and Time: 12/10/2004 09:57 PM
You have received a message from essojay
the dongle
************************************************** *******************************************
You have sent a message to essojay
no. have u sent the equipment?
Date and Time: 12/10/2004 09:56 PM
You have received a message from essojay
not yet... am still waiting for dongles, but as soon as i get it i ll send it to you
************************************************** *******************************************
Date and Time: 12/10/2004 10:08 PM
You have received a message from essojay
dongle is not ready, but can i send you one cable from here pending when dongle ll be shipped?
Date and Time: 12/10/2004 10:10 PM
You have received a message from essojay
ok, i ll send you cable tomorrow
************************************************** ********************************************

 
Old 12-19-2004, 11:48   #2 (permalink)
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may be he should commit his time to fullfilling orders, rather than deleting /editing posts here
 
Old 12-19-2004, 12:48   #3 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by datalife2000
ESSOJAY NEC DONGLE CHEATER OR NOT?

On the 26/11/2004 i sent essojay icq:172132106 money 400+"50"=450 pounds for the NEC dongle that i had purchased from him.
including DHL charges today its the 19/12/2004 and has not sent any dongle.Thats exactly 23 days (three weeks)
i have given him money 450 pounds but have not benefited anything at all.

if i where you how would you feel?
Put yourself in my ***** and let me know what action to take.

Also i trusted essojay as a "moderator" of this forum and now this!!
Then whom do we trust here.He has my money and now tells me he has no dongles!

Is Essojay TRUSTABLE or CHEATER or is beginning to have BAD BUSINESS PRACTICES? as mentioned here:

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...3&page=1&pp=15


These are some of the reasons for not sending selected at random:

****************
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:23 PM
You have sent a message to essojay
howfar?
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:25 PM
You have received a message from essojay
just a little time more.. later today

****************
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:27 PM
You have received a message from essojay
let me ask you, if you ll have the nec software with Uniclip, will you be prepared to pay like 500pounds?
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:28 PM
You have sent a message to essojay
u mean 100pounds more?
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:29 PM
You have received a message from essojay
yes
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:29 PM
You have sent a message to essojay
its ok np
*****************
Date and Time: 12/03/2004 12:17 AM
You have sent a message to essojay
NEC how far
Date and Time: 12/03/2004 12:17 AM
You have sent a message to essojay
use [email protected]
Date and Time: 12/03/2004 12:19 AM
You have received a message from essojay
ok i send you some details now
*****************
Date and Time: 12/05/2004 09:10 PM
You have received a message from essojay
do it quickly and after send me delivery address i ll send you a dongle when ready
Date and Time: 12/05/2004 09:11 PM
You have received a message from essojay
but you ll pay DHL
******************
You have received a message from essojay
ok.. i l, send to you this night or tomorrow morning.
You have sent a message to essojay
delivery address: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*****************
Date and Time: 12/06/2004 00:16 AM
You have sent a message to essojay
dongle is it lpt or usb?
Date and Time: 12/06/2004 00:16 AM
You have received a message from essojay
lpt
*****************
k. r u sending the dongle or uniclip
Date and Time: 12/10/2004 09:57 PM
You have received a message from essojay
the dongle
************************************************** *******************************************
You have sent a message to essojay
no. have u sent the equipment?
Date and Time: 12/10/2004 09:56 PM
You have received a message from essojay
not yet... am still waiting for dongles, but as soon as i get it i ll send it to you
************************************************** *******************************************
Date and Time: 12/10/2004 10:08 PM
You have received a message from essojay
dongle is not ready, but can i send you one cable from here pending when dongle ll be shipped?
Date and Time: 12/10/2004 10:10 PM
You have received a message from essojay
ok, i ll send you cable tomorrow
************************************************** ********************************************

This is very confusing situation.Just putting myself in your situation,i feel very very bad.Very bad after considering how hard it is to collect 450 pounds, the transfer processes,the change troubles here,and much more hard situations that you and myself know better.
First thing, it s hard for me to name Essojay a Cheater.But I dont give him my full credibility.
One more thing is,the short way he replied in your chat.I can easily say He did (does) not have any DONGLE on time of chatting or when you were corresponding.Probably he wanted enough money so he can go and buy also somewhere cheaper.In this Dongle situation, I can understand that there are more other people who are in you situation with Him.
Even 7 days is too much.We must talk about profit return here.I mean INTEREST.

I kindly advice you to Contact once again and if possible, PLEASE ESSOJAY, CLEAN YOURSELF HERE.

Anyway, I m selling my SPEAR DONGLE.I know it s not a selling section.No correction.

Salam to Essojay
 
Old 12-19-2004, 17:45   #4 (permalink)
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Did he give you a timescale for delivery??
Did you know he did not have the dongles in stock when you ordered?


Even so, I think you will download a free NEC unlocker before you get your dongle off him, which will be worthless now that all new NEC need to be downgraded beforwe unlocking!!

Not good act from a moderator in my opinion!!
 
Old 12-19-2004, 18:04   #5 (permalink)
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@datalife2000 - i doubt that he is a cheater, but things do come up. has he answered any of your subsequent emails?

It is too bad that you probably won't be getting your order before X-mas, but hopefully before the New Year.

Good luck.
 
Old 12-20-2004, 22:37   #6 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by datalife2000
ESSOJAY NEC DONGLE CHEATER OR NOT?

On the 26/11/2004 i sent essojay icq:172132106 money 400+"50"=450 pounds for the NEC dongle that i had purchased from him.
including DHL charges today its the 19/12/2004 and has not sent any dongle.Thats exactly 23 days (three weeks)
i have given him money 450 pounds but have not benefited anything at all.

if i where you how would you feel?
Put yourself in my ***** and let me know what action to take.

Also i trusted essojay as a "moderator" of this forum and now this!!
Then whom do we trust here.He has my money and now tells me he has no dongles!

Is Essojay TRUSTABLE or CHEATER or is beginning to have BAD BUSINESS PRACTICES? as mentioned here:

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...3&page=1&pp=15


These are some of the reasons for not sending selected at random:

****************
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:23 PM
You have sent a message to essojay
howfar?
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:25 PM
You have received a message from essojay
just a little time more.. later today

****************
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:27 PM
You have received a message from essojay
let me ask you, if you ll have the nec software with Uniclip, will you be prepared to pay like 500pounds?
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:28 PM
You have sent a message to essojay
u mean 100pounds more?
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:29 PM
You have received a message from essojay
yes
Date and Time: 12/01/2004 08:29 PM
You have sent a message to essojay
its ok np
*****************
Date and Time: 12/03/2004 12:17 AM
You have sent a message to essojay
NEC how far
Date and Time: 12/03/2004 12:17 AM
You have sent a message to essojay
use [email protected]
Date and Time: 12/03/2004 12:19 AM
You have received a message from essojay
ok i send you some details now
*****************
Date and Time: 12/05/2004 09:10 PM
You have received a message from essojay
do it quickly and after send me delivery address i ll send you a dongle when ready
Date and Time: 12/05/2004 09:11 PM
You have received a message from essojay
but you ll pay DHL
******************
You have received a message from essojay
ok.. i l, send to you this night or tomorrow morning.
You have sent a message to essojay
delivery address: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*****************
Date and Time: 12/06/2004 00:16 AM
You have sent a message to essojay
dongle is it lpt or usb?
Date and Time: 12/06/2004 00:16 AM
You have received a message from essojay
lpt
*****************
k. r u sending the dongle or uniclip
Date and Time: 12/10/2004 09:57 PM
You have received a message from essojay
the dongle
************************************************** *******************************************
You have sent a message to essojay
no. have u sent the equipment?
Date and Time: 12/10/2004 09:56 PM
You have received a message from essojay
not yet... am still waiting for dongles, but as soon as i get it i ll send it to you
************************************************** *******************************************
Date and Time: 12/10/2004 10:08 PM
You have received a message from essojay
dongle is not ready, but can i send you one cable from here pending when dongle ll be shipped?
Date and Time: 12/10/2004 10:10 PM
You have received a message from essojay
ok, i ll send you cable tomorrow
************************************************** ********************************************

Unfortunately you wrote all this when your order is on the way, i tried all within my power to get everything across to you.. and you are now even getting more than you paid for. and NOW you wrote all this....you forgot how long it took you to pay me for the sagem software no matter how small the amount involved. DID I EVER NEVER BOTHER YOU ABOUT THIS OR WROTE THIS KIND OF REJOINDER ABOUT YOU????????? I did told you that the dongle protected sofware is not ready and as soon as i have it ready i ll send it to you and that you can use the software protected solution pending when the dongles ll be ready... the same software is sold for 500uk pounds as at that time. I became a cheater because the cable is not forthcoming and you couldnt modify the cable yourself.. i got spear dongle and i did not recieve any cable with it....because i wasnt online to explain to you to allow for s little time for me to send you the full dongled solution, i became a cheater?????? ,

In as much as i dont like to praise myself, i dont think i have cheated anyone on this forum...i have not visited the forum in about 3 days ...because i had bad internet and have been trying to sort things out..

Knowledge, am dissappointed in this ...... I have sent your item even before i knew you wrote this..

Wish you great Christmas and happy new year..

bR
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blaiseid
This is very confusing situation.Just putting myself in your situation,i feel very very bad.Very bad after considering how hard it is to collect 450 pounds, the transfer processes,the change troubles here,and much more hard situations that you and myself know better.
First thing, it s hard for me to name Essojay a Cheater.But I dont give him my full credibility.
One more thing is,the short way he replied in your chat.I can easily say He did (does) not have any DONGLE on time of chatting or when you were corresponding.Probably he wanted enough money so he can go and buy also somewhere cheaper.In this Dongle situation, I can understand that there are more other people who are in you situation with Him.
Even 7 days is too much.We must talk about profit return here.I mean INTEREST.

I kindly advice you to Contact once again and if possible, PLEASE ESSOJAY, CLEAN YOURSELF HERE.

Anyway, I m selling my SPEAR DONGLE.I know it s not a selling section.No correction.

Salam to Essojay
Well.. you read the part written here.. and its understandable your judgement.. and thanks for the fact that its hard for you to see me as a cheater. of course am not and will never be! because i hate to be cheated too! but he knows more than he wrote here...

bR
 
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Hi all!

Essojay is a very good friend of me. I can state, that he is really 100% honest and trustable.
He explained me the situation, and i think, the problem was bad communication:
- Datalife got a software that can do the promised thing, but he had no cable (normal modified NEC cable).
- So, he kould not use the software and asked essojay for a cable...
- Essojay wanted to send him a cable, but he did more: He wanted to send him Software + Dongle + Cable. But he had to wait some days.
- Today he got all this and sent it to datalife

I think, its not the fault of essojay that datalife had no cable for use with the software(but i do not know exactly what was the deal)
Now essojay gave very nice support by sending a newer version of the Program + Dongle + the missing cable

Datalife, I hope the situation is solved now and you can start work with NEC software

Greetings to all
Chris
 
Old 12-21-2004, 07:34   #9 (permalink)
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Essojay is a very good friend also me.I never don't think He is a cheater,He is very trust and sincerity.I think like this if a person he want to make gsm businies simlocking side,He must be make soldering and something like this.

@ chriss922 .I am happy to see you forum again,

have a nice Christmas and happy new year..
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by essojay
Well.. you read the part written here.. and its understandable your judgement.. and thanks for the fact that its hard for you to see me as a cheater. of course am not and will never be! because i hate to be cheated too! but he knows more than he wrote here...

bR
I think the Storm is Over.

@Chris922

Happy to see you back.

Salam to all.
 
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Thumbs up essojay is a 1000% Trustable Person :)

he's the True Hero of the Forum he always help others ... n in the future i want to be like Him


WBR

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Essojay says as above that he had communication problems since his internet could not log on.He managed to contact me on my mobile cellphone and we cleared everything. He has since sent the parcel and am awaiting delivery since he has given me the tracking number.

We have been dealing well since last until this problem, i guess this stresses the importance of communication. There was not enough communication or there was communbication breakdown between the two of us.I guess all is clear from now on, otherwise he has been a goodfriend and has taken a step to show that he still is both a trustable goodfriend and good moderator.

@ essojay

no hardfeelings. keep up the goodwork!
 
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If 10% of the people on this forum behaved like essojay, we would have a better forum.
Essojay would go extra mile to help
And he has done this many times, even without prompting!
He knows what I am talking about.
Thanks, kid brother
That makes you a better human being
 
Old 12-22-2004, 20:36   #14 (permalink)
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"And he has done this many times, even without prompting!
He knows what I am talking about."

filipas12 and fu_too we were right !!!!!!! its a closed shop here
 
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Salam

Stop speaking about ESSOJAY .

He is very trustable and honest .


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