Nokia 3210 charging problem - GSM-Forum

YamahaR1 · 11-01-2002, 22:13

Hi

3210 NOT CHARGING
What can be wrong?

Thanx

Corban · 11-01-2002, 22:21

battery contacts or the thermistor between it. Does the phone says anything?

Corban

YamahaR1 · 11-02-2002, 16:56

Hi

It's not beeping or saying anything.
Just not charging.

jero · 11-02-2002, 18:28

if it doesnt detect the charger..check fuse and charge connector...and then L100/101,R100/101 and C146..but it says "not charging"let me know..__jero__

YamahaR1 · 11-02-2002, 18:38

Hi

Thats not the problem there is somewhere a short on the pcb.
I get 10 OHM over the caps.

HEADMASTER · 11-17-2002, 15:13

Same problem
I checked all

willy · 11-17-2002, 15:35

HEADMASTER

check at R125 R127, and cold solder in this two resistor !
and check line from R125 to R127 !

Willy

Chuk · 11-17-2002, 16:47

It's R103 short. Just remove it from pcb. 100% tested.

willy · 11-17-2002, 17:19

Chuk,

Why not you remove L100 ,then plug charger, and measure voltage R103 both side TO MAKE SURE THAT R103 DEAD ?

Just remove it ?
if R103 dead, have to replace it ,,, can not just remove it !

WIlly

Chuk · 11-18-2002, 09:07

I agree with You. But You no need to place it, because it just peak voltage protection (approx. 30V).

Ofcourse, better to replace it, but if You'll use original charger - all will be OK without it. Problem is not in replaceing or removeing - problem is where to get new one.... (old and dead phones is not the solution).

Why I need remove L100, when I can measure R103 resistance?

PS: This is one little thing (R103), that missing in 3210 troubleshoots from Nokia. May be problem in it? We need good repair instructions!!!!! We can't think sometimes (not for You, Willy).

Chuk · 11-18-2002, 10:42

Quote:

Originally posted by YamahaR1
Hi

3210 NOT CHARGING
10 Ohm over C110
Removed PSCC N101 and CCONT N100 but still the same.
Caps c112 109 115 111 113 152 all ok.

What can be wrong?

Thanx

If You remove R103 from this PCB and measure it, You'll see, that I'm right, Satelite hacker.....

willy · 11-18-2002, 14:45

Satelite hacker Chuk

maybe you are right .

@Why I need remove L100, when I can measure R103 resistance?
@It's R103 short. Just remove it from pcb. 100% tested.

remove L100, it mean to cut off line connect from FUSE to CHAPS , then when you can plug a charger , and make test that "short" or not !

Willy

HEADMASTER · 11-18-2002, 15:17

R103 removed and still not charge
i have short circuit between F100 to both side of R103
I test on working 3210 this short circuit exist (F100 and down side of R103)

Chuk · 11-18-2002, 15:29

To Willy:

I'm not Satelite hacker, it Yamaha R1 Satelite hacker

Chuk · 11-18-2002, 15:44

Quote:

Originally posted by HEADMASTER
R103 removed and still not charge
i have short circuit between F100 to both side of R103
I test on working 3210 this short circuit exist (F100 and down side of R103)

If You have SHORTED circuit between + and Gnd of charger, there are 6 component You must check only:
R103, C114, C163, C108, C100, N101.

I test on working 3210 this short circuit exist (F100 and down side of R103)

Yes, but one side only (not grounded).

Are You shure, that You remove R103, but not L100? Visually, there are the same.

If You have short circuit after N101 (10 Ohm between VCHOUT and Gnd) - check C122 (10u/10v)

11-01-2002, 22:13	#1 (permalink)
YamahaR1 Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I am outside your house, I am armed Age: 56 Posts: 482 Member: 9698 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Nokia 3210 charging problem Hi 3210 NOT CHARGING What can be wrong? Thanx Last edited by YamahaR1; 02-19-2004 at 18:16.

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Chuk No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ukraine Age: 46 Posts: 1,146 Member: 7767 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	I agree with You. But You no need to place it, because it just peak voltage protection (approx. 30V). Ofcourse, better to replace it, but if You'll use original charger - all will be OK without it. Problem is not in replaceing or removeing - problem is where to get new one.... (old and dead phones is not the solution). Why I need remove L100, when I can measure R103 resistance? PS: This is one little thing (R103), that missing in 3210 troubleshoots from Nokia. May be problem in it? We need good repair instructions!!!!! We can't think sometimes (not for You, Willy). Last edited by Chuk; 11-18-2002 at 10:34.

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11-01-2002, 22:21	#2 (permalink)
Corban Freak Poster Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ukraine Age: 50 Posts: 227 Member: 8000 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	battery contacts or the thermistor between it. Does the phone says anything? Corban

11-02-2002, 16:56	#3 (permalink)
YamahaR1 Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I am outside your house, I am armed Age: 56 Posts: 482 Member: 9698 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Hi It's not beeping or saying anything. Just not charging.

11-02-2002, 18:28	#4 (permalink)
jero Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: __inside__ Age: 41 Posts: 102 Member: 14792 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	if it doesnt detect the charger..check fuse and charge connector...and then L100/101,R100/101 and C146..but it says "not charging"let me know..__jero__

11-02-2002, 18:38	#5 (permalink)
YamahaR1 Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I am outside your house, I am armed Age: 56 Posts: 482 Member: 9698 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Hi Thats not the problem there is somewhere a short on the pcb. I get 10 OHM over the caps.

11-17-2002, 15:13	#6 (permalink)
HEADMASTER Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TUNISIA Age: 62 Posts: 414 Member: 13122 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Same problem I checked all

11-17-2002, 15:35	#7 (permalink)
willy No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: inside NOKIA phone Age: 58 Posts: 1,677 Member: 1060 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 10	HEADMASTER check at R125 R127, and cold solder in this two resistor ! and check line from R125 to R127 ! Willy

11-17-2002, 16:47	#8 (permalink)
Chuk No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ukraine Age: 46 Posts: 1,146 Member: 7767 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	It's R103 short. Just remove it from pcb. 100% tested.

11-17-2002, 17:19	#9 (permalink)
willy No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: inside NOKIA phone Age: 58 Posts: 1,677 Member: 1060 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 10	Chuk, Why not you remove L100 ,then plug charger, and measure voltage R103 both side TO MAKE SURE THAT R103 DEAD ? Just remove it ? if R103 dead, have to replace it ,,, can not just remove it ! WIlly

11-18-2002, 14:45	#12 (permalink)
willy No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: inside NOKIA phone Age: 58 Posts: 1,677 Member: 1060 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 10	Satelite hacker Chuk maybe you are right . @Why I need remove L100, when I can measure R103 resistance? @It's R103 short. Just remove it from pcb. 100% tested. remove L100, it mean to cut off line connect from FUSE to CHAPS , then when you can plug a charger , and make test that "short" or not ! Willy

11-18-2002, 15:17	#13 (permalink)
HEADMASTER Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TUNISIA Age: 62 Posts: 414 Member: 13122 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	R103 removed and still not charge i have short circuit between F100 to both side of R103 I test on working 3210 this short circuit exist (F100 and down side of R103)

11-18-2002, 15:29	#14 (permalink)
Chuk No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ukraine Age: 46 Posts: 1,146 Member: 7767 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	To Willy: I'm not Satelite hacker, it Yamaha R1 Satelite hacker