Sagem Terms Explained - GSM-Forum

tical · 03-02-2004, 21:13

Hi, I am trying to get a handle on how to unlock Sagems, but would like to first know the territory. my questions are

1. What is a lock level ? apparently you phone can be locked to more than one, and how do you know which locklevel your phone is locked to ?

2. What is the PhoneID ? is it the unlock code ?

3. What fields are needed to fully calculate an unlock code ?

abdoune · 03-02-2004, 21:29

Hello Tical am also newbee but i can give you some help perhaps it interest you ...
The fields needed to calculate an unlock code are:
field 5250 to 5262 you can obtain there value by entering to hotmenu by pressing:
IN sagem 3xxx: *226632623xy where y
DJ3,5C a DJ3,5D a DJ3,5E a DH3,5H : y=5
DF4,5E a DF4,5F a DH4,6J a DJ4,6G a DG4,5H a DI4,6G : y=4
JC3,6N a JC3,6O a JC3,6L : y=2
and x egal the additional four number
for exemple if the IMEI is :35074635261245-3
1245 -> 1+2+4+5 = 12
12/10 =2 , x=2
Is it ok , i wish my help will be usefull, best regards.

tical · 03-02-2004, 22:49

All help is appreciated.

cmwangi · 03-03-2004, 09:18

Are there some phones that cannot enter hot menu, i tried that in my sagem myx-2 but nothing is working i have substitute x btn 0-9 but still not entering hot menu. any suggestions

ripcord · 03-03-2004, 18:17

I have the same problem. I'm trying to enter the hotline menu with the code but it won't work. I'm using an my-X5. I could use some help aswell!

tical · 03-03-2004, 19:17

I guess the solution is to unlock it via the server ?

cmwangi · 03-04-2004, 07:25

Hi ripcord seems ur having same problem like i had (cannot enter hot menu)was forced to unlock mine online www.freefonefun.net log costs £9.98, u may also temporarily use phone by entering the blocked simcard then **05* it will ask for PUK which u input, enter new pin (could b same one as b4). this procedure works till u switch of phone then u have to repeat the step again.

ripcord · 03-04-2004, 10:39

Hi cmwangi, would it not have been easier to get a data cable and read these "EPROM" stuff from the phone? In this forum, you seem to be able to get the unlock codes for free if you have the info? That's what i'm thinking of doing!

cmwangi · 03-05-2004, 07:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by ripcord

Hi cmwangi, would it not have been easier to get a data cable and read these "EPROM" stuff from the phone? In this forum, you seem to be able to get the unlock codes for free if you have the info? That's what i'm thinking of doing!

in this forum, u nid field 0, 5709 --> data cable by itself cannot read the fields
dongle costs money but try this software http://free-zg.htnet.hr/hrco/astu.zip to retrieve the above fields then post them in forum or use calculator.

cmwangi · 03-05-2004, 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by ripcord

Hi cmwangi, would it not have been easier to get a data cable and read these "EPROM" stuff from the phone? In this forum, you seem to be able to get the unlock codes for free if you have the info? That's what i'm thinking of doing!

in this forum, u seem to nid field 0, 5709 --> data cable by itself cannot read the fields dongle costs money but try this software http://free-zg.htnet.hr/hrco/astu.zip to retrieve the above fields then post them in forum or use calculator.

ripcord · 03-05-2004, 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmwangi

in this forum, u seem to nid field 0, 5709 --> data cable by itself cannot read the fields dongle costs money but try this software http://free-zg.htnet.hr/hrco/astu.zip to retrieve the above fields then post them in forum or use calculator.

Where could I get this "calculator" your talking about?

girliie · 03-08-2004, 13:35

Between newbees we help at each other

So,

1 - The locklevel : determines which sort of locking method your phone has (0x40 for unblocked, 0x00 for never blocked, etc.)
2 - PhoneID : It's the phone IDentification number. It is not the unlock code =). That's from this ID that all the fields are crypted / encoded in the eeprom. That's why some toolz can reverse the calculation to retrieve this ID from 2 fields (one crypted, the other uncrypted). For some versions of firmware (xx4,6X) the ID MUST be retrieved with a datacable and with a special tool.

3 - The fields needed : the field 0 (IMEI in a twisted form) and the PhoneID are only required by example if you use the the tool SRSv1.2 from Chris922. In any case you will be asked to enter these two fields. They are mandatory. Also the Hash Table (depends on phone model) is required.

That's what i've learned here ! Hope it will help you !

REPAIRMAN · 03-10-2004, 20:10

Can anyone tell me is the Field 5709 crypted,
& if so what is the Field location for the same uncrypted data.
Regards

tical · 03-11-2004, 20:20

Hi, I used the SAGEM v 2.3 to calculate the code for a MY-X5 , my PC is 400 Mhz cpu, Using fast method, nothing happen, with Slow method , it took 4 Hrs to return the code !!!. Now from a business point a view , I would get a lot of grey hairs before I made any money off Sagems at this rate.

I am assuming that there is some other method that can calculate the codes quickly.

girliie · 03-12-2004, 18:06

Hello,

it seems there is no field corresponding with 5709. Perhaps you can use it as uncrypted and crypted field.

This field is required in case you can't enter into the monitor mode... I can't tell you more about it because I don't know more, sorry !

03-02-2004, 21:13	#1 (permalink)
tical No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Americas Age: 44 Posts: 2,220 Member: 43802 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 36	Sagem Terms Explained Hi, I am trying to get a handle on how to unlock Sagems, but would like to first know the territory. my questions are 1. What is a lock level ? apparently you phone can be locked to more than one, and how do you know which locklevel your phone is locked to ? 2. What is the PhoneID ? is it the unlock code ? 3. What fields are needed to fully calculate an unlock code ?

03-02-2004, 22:49	#3 (permalink)
tical No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Americas Age: 44 Posts: 2,220 Member: 43802 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 36	Thank you All help is appreciated.

03-03-2004, 19:17	#6 (permalink)
tical No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Americas Age: 44 Posts: 2,220 Member: 43802 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 36	Same Problem with My-x2a I guess the solution is to unlock it via the server ?

03-11-2004, 20:20	#14 (permalink)
tical No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Americas Age: 44 Posts: 2,220 Member: 43802 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 36	There's gotta be a better way Hi, I used the SAGEM v 2.3 to calculate the code for a MY-X5 , my PC is 400 Mhz cpu, Using fast method, nothing happen, with Slow method , it took 4 Hrs to return the code !!!. Now from a business point a view , I would get a lot of grey hairs before I made any money off Sagems at this rate. I am assuming that there is some other method that can calculate the codes quickly.

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03-02-2004, 21:29	#2 (permalink)
abdoune No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Algeria Posts: 2,305 Member: 56090 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 162	Hello Tical am also newbee but i can give you some help perhaps it interest you ... The fields needed to calculate an unlock code are: field 5250 to 5262 you can obtain there value by entering to hotmenu by pressing: IN sagem 3xxx: *226632623xy where y DJ3,5C a DJ3,5D a DJ3,5E a DH3,5H : y=5 DF4,5E a DF4,5F a DH4,6J a DJ4,6G a DG4,5H a DI4,6G : y=4 JC3,6N a JC3,6O a JC3,6L : y=2 and x egal the additional four number for exemple if the IMEI is :35074635261245-3 1245 -> 1+2+4+5 = 12 12/10 =2 , x=2 Is it ok , i wish my help will be usefull, best regards.

03-03-2004, 09:18	#4 (permalink)
cmwangi Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6 Member: 56478 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Are there some phones that cannot enter hot menu, i tried that in my sagem myx-2 but nothing is working i have substitute x btn 0-9 but still not entering hot menu. any suggestions

03-03-2004, 18:17	#5 (permalink)
ripcord Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6 Member: 56648 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I have the same problem. I'm trying to enter the hotline menu with the code but it won't work. I'm using an my-X5. I could use some help aswell!

03-04-2004, 07:25	#7 (permalink)
cmwangi Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6 Member: 56478 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Hi ripcord seems ur having same problem like i had (cannot enter hot menu)was forced to unlock mine online www.freefonefun.net log costs £9.98, u may also temporarily use phone by entering the blocked simcard then *05 it will ask for PUK which u input, enter new pin (could b same one as b4). this procedure works till u switch of phone then u have to repeat the step again.

03-04-2004, 10:39	#8 (permalink)
ripcord Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6 Member: 56648 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Hi cmwangi, would it not have been easier to get a data cable and read these "EPROM" stuff from the phone? In this forum, you seem to be able to get the unlock codes for free if you have the info? That's what i'm thinking of doing!

03-08-2004, 13:35	#12 (permalink)
girliie Major Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 47 Member: 49834 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Between newbees we help at each other So, 1 - The locklevel : determines which sort of locking method your phone has (0x40 for unblocked, 0x00 for never blocked, etc.) 2 - PhoneID : It's the phone IDentification number. It is not the unlock code =). That's from this ID that all the fields are crypted / encoded in the eeprom. That's why some toolz can reverse the calculation to retrieve this ID from 2 fields (one crypted, the other uncrypted). For some versions of firmware (xx4,6X) the ID MUST be retrieved with a datacable and with a special tool. 3 - The fields needed : the field 0 (IMEI in a twisted form) and the PhoneID are only required by example if you use the the tool SRSv1.2 from Chris922. In any case you will be asked to enter these two fields. They are mandatory. Also the Hash Table (depends on phone model) is required. That's what i've learned here ! Hope it will help you !

03-10-2004, 20:10	#13 (permalink)
REPAIRMAN Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: UK Age: 57 Posts: 373 Member: 5831 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Can anyone tell me is the Field 5709 crypted, & if so what is the Field location for the same uncrypted data. Regards

03-12-2004, 18:06	#15 (permalink)
girliie Major Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 47 Member: 49834 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Hello, it seems there is no field corresponding with 5709. Perhaps you can use it as uncrypted and crypted field. This field is required in case you can't enter into the monitor mode... I can't tell you more about it because I don't know more, sorry !