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Old 11-17-2003, 20:00   #16 (permalink)
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Hi, your dongle is dead, and i do not know how it is killed, but 100% not killed by the update. Please check power supply pin.. i think it is broken or whatever.

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And if i disassemble the box, then supplier won't accept it for warranty service !
 
Old 11-17-2003, 20:12   #17 (permalink)
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He He

I opened the box, and changed crystal 7.3728M,
now its working perfect !!!!!


I WONDER HOW THIS BOX WORKED FOR MY SUPPLIER (Because he told me he already flashed few nokias with this little box)


BTW, Thanks for your trick alan
 
Old 11-17-2003, 22:34   #18 (permalink)
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Why the original box has such bad quality components & poor
QC ?? And the dongle is shipped without up-to-date firmware
inside, must doing the live upgrade by the customer?
I saw a box here with a B-Phreaks Limited laser logo, how come
they say now this box is a China company (cable manufacturers)
product, that means no more support by B-Phreaks ?
Who can write the new versions for it ? I don't think this
cable manufacturer can write such Prodigy software!

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Old 11-18-2003, 00:03   #19 (permalink)
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Originally posted by GSM Cyber
Why the original box has such bad quality components & poor
QC ?? And the dongle is shipped without up-to-date firmware
inside, must doing the live upgrade by the customer?
I saw a box here with a B-Phreaks Limited laser logo, how come
they say now this box is a China company (cable manufacturers)
product, that means no more support by B-Phreaks ?
Who can write the new versions for it ? I don't think this
cable manufacturer can write such Prodigy software!

GSM Cyber

Poor component? Do we manufacture cystal?
We have hundreds and thousand of Prodigy dongle here and all chips are programmed at the same build at different shipment. We have tested on 1 time Flashing in our QC department, We have also encouraged all our official reseller to update and test it again before selling to the end-user ... well what can we do when this happened?

Lastly, we are not making 1 box but hundreds of boxes and thousands of cable. So far I have make a draft for the QC level.. at less 5% are bad (Cable and dongle manufacturing). It is consider a slightly above adverage result isn't it? Anyway, it will be getting better after we have make some changes for the cables wires.

Fews days ago when I brought a philips bender for my house .. and it was burnt off even with a smoke after 2 times use only.. can i said that their product have bad QC? But I m happy that at less they change a new one for me without asking me to wait for 10 days after repair.

About the label and Software, please read the information at www.prodigy-tools.com.


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Last edited by xpmobile; 11-18-2003 at 15:14.
 
Old 11-18-2003, 21:17   #20 (permalink)
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Old 11-19-2003, 19:58   #21 (permalink)
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Well well well....

You call this good quality?

http://www.gsmhacker.com/ORIGINALprodigy.jpg

 
Old 11-20-2003, 03:38   #22 (permalink)
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Well well well....

You call this good quality?

http://www.gsmhacker.com/ORIGINALprodigy.jpg


Thomas, how is your cloned box doing? I heard that you are throwing everywhere to people who do not need to pay any money =)))) Can't get any sales? Selling Cloned griffin and griffin crusader and cloned Prodigy throughout your gsm life? Maybe you deserved it after all.

Also, don't forget that your first Griffin box with Fan is designed and made by the factory =))))

Anyway, maybe your cloned imei rebuilder, cloned griffin, cloned prodigy having problem on soldering? Basically, you do not need flex for soldering isn't it? =)))). Without flex, i hope that your soldering will not broken up easily after many time usuage =))))

Do not talk about quality when you do not produce things or being to the factory =))))




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Old 11-20-2003, 05:43   #23 (permalink)
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Thanks for your information, in the Prodigy site, I saw this:

For many years of experience in Research & Development of
Nokia Solution and designing of Nokia third-party servicing tools,
B-Phreaks Limited has applied their knowledge on the Most
Powerful Nokia Professional Servicing Tools for people who are in
the very competitive Mobile Phones Repair and Servicing trade.
Prodigy is the most Advance Technology and powerful solution by
B-Phreaks Limited for people who are working with Nokia Phones
repairing and servicing and it has the ability to repair.

It means B-Phreaks will continuous to support and write Prodigy
software or not ? Or B-Phreaks supports solutions for other
people to write the soft?

For your philips bender, I think 100% bad QC, as you said,
if the QC acceptance is allowed 5% for fault rate, they made
10000 pcs, there will be 500 pcs not 100% working and this 500
pcs were shipped to your country, what's the % in your country?

For the poor quality components, it's true, you cannot control it
because you are not manufacturer, but it is not the excuse..
you should select good quality components for the device, in this
case, the crystal, if you willing to pay USD0.25 more, you can get
a very good quality of crystal. This is my own opinion only, accept
or not is your decision.

You said about soldering, what is '' flex '' ?
I think you are talking about " Soldering Flux ", for soldering
components on the PCB, of course they need '' Flux '', if the PCB is
produced in a good factory, after all soldering process, it should
be put into Ultrasonic cleaner to clean all the " Flux ", isn't it ?
In the picture, it shows us that the " Flux '' on the DB-25, Phone
Connector and the DC-Jack were not be cleaned, you said this
is Good Quality because the ' Flux ' has not been cleaned ?

Basically, you know nothing about PCB production and
manufacturing, you have a factory or you worked in a factory
before ? I don't think so....

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Thanks for your information, in the Prodigy site, I saw this:

For many years of experience in Research & Development of
Nokia Solution and designing of Nokia third-party servicing tools,
B-Phreaks Limited has applied their knowledge on the Most
Powerful Nokia Professional Servicing Tools for people who are in
the very competitive Mobile Phones Repair and Servicing trade.
Prodigy is the most Advance Technology and powerful solution by
B-Phreaks Limited for people who are working with Nokia Phones
repairing and servicing and it has the ability to repair.

It means B-Phreaks will continuous to support and write Prodigy
software or not ? Or B-Phreaks supports solutions for other
people to write the soft?

For your philips bender, I think 100% bad QC, as you said,
if the QC acceptance is allowed 5% for fault rate, they made
10000 pcs, there will be 500 pcs not 100% working and this 500
pcs were shipped to your country, what's the % in your country?

For the poor quality components, it's true, you cannot control it
because you are not manufacturer, but it is not the excuse..
you should select good quality components for the device, in this
case, the crystal, if you willing to pay USD0.25 more, you can get
a very good quality of crystal. This is my own opinion only, accept
or not is your decision.

You said about soldering, what is '' flex '' ?
I think you are talking about " Soldering Flux ", for soldering
components on the PCB, of course they need '' Flux '', if the PCB is
produced in a good factory, after all soldering process, it should
be put into Ultrasonic cleaner to clean all the " Flux ", isn't it ?
In the picture, it shows us that the " Flux '' on the DB-25, Phone
Connector and the DC-Jack were not be cleaned, you said this
is Good Quality because the ' Flux ' has not been cleaned ?

Basically, you know nothing about PCB production and
manufacturing, you have a factory or you worked in a factory
before ? I don't think so....
GSM Cyber
For Cystal, did any people ever having faulty crystal before? I think this is rare. So am I giving excuse? But from your words, this shows that you have no knowledge about Crystal and production. Secondly, do u know that phillips bender is the best well known QC in China? =))))).

Since you already declared that you know nothing about production.. so it is best for me not to waste my time for explaination.



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Last edited by xpmobile; 11-20-2003 at 12:48.
 
Old 11-20-2003, 15:52   #25 (permalink)
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For Cystal, did any people ever having faulty crystal before? I think this is rare. So am I giving excuse? But from your words, this shows that you have no knowledge about Crystal and production. Secondly, do u know that phillips bender is the best well known QC in China? =))))).

Since you already declared that you know nothing about production.. so it is best for me not to waste my time for explaination.



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I searched in the forum many people said you are always talking Bullxxxx with very bad manner,
I don't believed it before, now I know this is true.

Also, your English is very poor (please don't tell people you are coming from Singapore),
you even don't know ' I or YOU ' , ' YOU or ME ', and ' Flex ' or ' Flux '.

Your explaination? no need, thank you ! Because you (Alan) are not qualified to talk about this (Production)!

I have AFD, so I trusted Prodigy, now I am feeling so dis-appointed I have bought one set of Original Prodigy Box here
which the manufacturer (now is XPMobile & a cable factory, not B-Phreaks) has such poor knowledge and behaviour,
never accept any suggestions or comments by the customers and thinking he is the King and the best in the GSM field.

Next time I will search the Forum before I pay money to buy somethings.

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I searched in the forum many people said you are always talking Bullxxxx with very bad manner,
I don't believed it before, now I know this is true.

Also, your English is very poor (please don't tell people you are coming from Singapore),
you even don't know ' I or YOU ' , ' YOU or ME ', and ' Flex ' or ' Flux '.

Your explaination? no need, thank you ! Because you (Alan) are not qualified to talk about this (Production)!

I have AFD, so I trusted Prodigy, now I am feeling so dis-appointed I have bought one set of Original Prodigy Box here
which the manufacturer (now is XPMobile & a cable factory, not B-Phreaks) has such poor knowledge and behaviour,
never accept any suggestions or comments by the customers and thinking he is the King and the best in the GSM field.

Next time I will search the Forum before I pay money to buy somethings.

GSM Cyber

Thank you very much. Anyway there is alot of actors and actress here. Geniune customer are interested in our services then in our production. Hope you do not ask Philips about how they make their house appliances while trying to get one from them... this is funny =))))



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Thank you very much. Anyway there is alot of actors and actress here. Geniune customer are interested in our services then in our production. Hope you do not ask Philips about how they make their house appliances while trying to get one from them... this is funny =))))



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Thank you for your best answer, you never care about the quality and production of the Prodigy, you care only the aftersale repair
service, because you have already received the money from you customers, anyway, I will return this fuc....ing Prodigy box to the shop and swap another products, soon you will receive a faulty box from Taiwan need to provide service. I don't understand how you treat your customer like this!

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Thank you for your best answer, you never care about the quality and production of the Prodigy, you care only the aftersale repair
service, because you have already received the money from you customers, anyway, I will return this fuc....ing Prodigy box to the shop and swap another products, soon you will receive a faulty box from Taiwan need to provide service. I don't understand how you treat your customer like this!

GSM Cyber
You are welcome. Anyway, we do not have any Official reseller in Taiwan.... this is strange..Well like I say, we already tested the box.. maybe you can check the counter of flashing yourself then making story here and if it doesn't work, why is there a counter there showing 1 time flashing? I treat all my customer well, but not those who are FAKER.



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Old 11-20-2003, 20:53   #29 (permalink)
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Thread closed , too far to title , and problem of VsH-GsM already got fixed !

Please do not fight for push business,, NOT GOOD !


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