Does anybody have java for Sl45, what i can remote Tv or other thing by irda - GSM-Forum

stylius · 05-21-2004, 10:36

Hello, Does anybody have java for Sl45, what i can remote Tv or other thing by irda? I search internet but not sucefull. So can anybody help me???

Maciek_K · 05-22-2004, 02:54

I heard that it's impossible. The signal for phone IrDa is too weak, so it would work only on very short distance (30cm ?) and also there is difference in frequencies - IrDa and remonte control.

uimuha · 06-07-2004, 23:58

This is a great idea, AFAIK IR sensor's frequency can be changed, I don't know for SL45i exactly but I think that it can be changed just like any other IR sensor that can be bought in electronic shops. The problem is, can Java applet control this kind of HW setting. I don't know much about Java programming and Siemens HW, but can anyone that know answer these questions....

stylius · 06-09-2004, 09:11

I think it is good idea.Why can made this java?????? It will be very interesting

))

xc8 · 06-11-2004, 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by stylius

I think it is good idea.Why can made this java?????? It will be very interesting

))

I think the java (on SL45) does not support IRDA commands...
(Please correct me if I am wrong..)

Chris

rc-flitzer · 06-11-2004, 22:25

You can send command via IrDA protocol for changing data with other mobile phones, but that's software based and only works with SL45i or with newer phones with MIDP2.0 or Symbian.
But you can't send specific frequences i.e. no direct TV remote control. Sorry. Buy a TV remote, it's not expensive.

trustkill · 06-11-2004, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by rc-flitzer

but that's software based and only works with SL45i or with newer phones with MIDP2.0 or Symbian.

eehhmm, he asked for a midlet for SL45i ?!

rc-flitzer · 06-12-2004, 16:40

Yes, and I summarized the possibilities to respond the IrDA-connection with midlet code. Java doesn't support IrDA in MIDP1.0 version, only in SL45i (and no successor phones like S55) you can do this (with Siemens library).
You can't send specific frequences to control your TV or something else. You only can send bytes, and they will be packed with IrDA protocol and e.g. received by other IrDA ports from mobiles or notebooks. So it really is possible to use irda in SL45i for some things, like programming 2-player-games with other SLs or change data with other irda-having-phones or notebooks.
But there's no possibility to access directly the irda connection for sending commands to television or something like that. You need (as I said) MIDP2.0 (maybe?) or Symbian for this.

rodius · 06-12-2004, 23:32

i heared that it is posible in nokia

rc-flitzer · 06-12-2004, 23:46

IrDA with Java could also be possible in Nokia phones, they support their own Java library. I don't know the docs&specs for Nokia SDK, but just have a look at java.sun.com -> Wireless Java and then look in the paragraph about Nokia and download that SDK.

Mateusz · 06-13-2004, 21:29

Java will not here, but modding the firmware itself could help maybe?

05-21-2004, 10:36	#1 (permalink)
stylius No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 1,057 Member: 51989 Status: Offline Sonork: 1575109 Thanks Meter: 145	Does anybody have java for Sl45, what i can remote Tv or other thing by irda Hello, Does anybody have java for Sl45, what i can remote Tv or other thing by irda? I search internet but not sucefull. So can anybody help me???

06-07-2004, 23:58	#3 (permalink)
uimuha Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bosnia and Herzegovina Age: 40 Posts: 6 Member: 67732 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Re: Does anybody have java for Sl45, what i can remote Tv or other thing by irda This is a great idea, AFAIK IR sensor's frequency can be changed, I don't know for SL45i exactly but I think that it can be changed just like any other IR sensor that can be bought in electronic shops. The problem is, can Java applet control this kind of HW setting. I don't know much about Java programming and Siemens HW, but can anyone that know answer these questions....

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05-22-2004, 02:54	#2 (permalink)
Maciek_K Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Poland Age: 45 Posts: 18 Member: 66044 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I heard that it's impossible. The signal for phone IrDa is too weak, so it would work only on very short distance (30cm ?) and also there is difference in frequencies - IrDa and remonte control.

06-09-2004, 09:11	#4 (permalink)
stylius No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 1,057 Member: 51989 Status: Offline Sonork: 1575109 Thanks Meter: 145	I think it is good idea.Why can made this java?????? It will be very interesting ))

06-11-2004, 22:25	#6 (permalink)
rc-flitzer No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 593 Member: 60520 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	You can send command via IrDA protocol for changing data with other mobile phones, but that's software based and only works with SL45i or with newer phones with MIDP2.0 or Symbian. But you can't send specific frequences i.e. no direct TV remote control. Sorry. Buy a TV remote, it's not expensive.

06-12-2004, 16:40	#8 (permalink)
rc-flitzer No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 593 Member: 60520 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Yes, and I summarized the possibilities to respond the IrDA-connection with midlet code. Java doesn't support IrDA in MIDP1.0 version, only in SL45i (and no successor phones like S55) you can do this (with Siemens library). You can't send specific frequences to control your TV or something else. You only can send bytes, and they will be packed with IrDA protocol and e.g. received by other IrDA ports from mobiles or notebooks. So it really is possible to use irda in SL45i for some things, like programming 2-player-games with other SLs or change data with other irda-having-phones or notebooks. But there's no possibility to access directly the irda connection for sending commands to television or something like that. You need (as I said) MIDP2.0 (maybe?) or Symbian for this.

06-12-2004, 23:32	#9 (permalink)
rodius Major Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Age: 55 Posts: 47 Member: 41876 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	i heared that it is posible in nokia

06-12-2004, 23:46	#10 (permalink)
rc-flitzer No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 593 Member: 60520 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	IrDA with Java could also be possible in Nokia phones, they support their own Java library. I don't know the docs&specs for Nokia SDK, but just have a look at java.sun.com -> Wireless Java and then look in the paragraph about Nokia and download that SDK.

06-13-2004, 21:29	#11 (permalink)
Mateusz Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Poland Posts: 103 Member: 5951 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Java will not here, but modding the firmware itself could help maybe?