imei change illegalises phone? - GSM-Forum

rudeboymcc · 03-13-2003, 18:09

hi. i've read thrlough the forum and found many people changing their imei number. i live in the uk and there's a new security operation out for stolen phones, where they send a high frequency to the phone and make it unuseable, i think that's how they do it.

anyway, i was jsut thinking, if the phone has an imei number that's not recognise, might this accidently happen?

another thing, if the police get hold of it and want to check if it's stolen, when they type in the imei number and no results come back ,they'll no it's not the phone's original, whcih immediatly makes them assume it's stolen. they'll take the phone, and give you a warning.

am i right?

robbiesl42 · 03-13-2003, 18:19

Yes dude you are right. Am in the uk as well.
however let me correct you there just a bit.
the way that they ( the networks) block it is they type the IMEI number on to there system and then you make it as there network wont regs the imei when the phone is swiched on. so therefor no network, if the police chacht you with a fone that has had it's imei changed. then they will ask you were did you get the phone from. Or they will asum that you did it therefore you will get 5 year in jail!! and for that matter every phone shop in the uk has the police come in as that i meen small shops not the link dixons t-moble ect ect....

i Hope this makes it clear for every one in the Uk !

rudeboymcc · 03-13-2003, 19:04

so if a network do block an imei number from their network ,making unusable according to them, a simple imei change will make it work again? and ther's no harm done to the phone?

Drug_Store · 03-13-2003, 19:16

Many siemens models won´t work after changing the IMEI...

The only model I´ve made IMEI change and it worked was on C / M / and S 35.

The Network Block by IMEI, it´s mostly used on Nokias...

ali-g-string · 03-14-2003, 10:38

What would happen if I did for instance a back cover change on a phone. Got the back from a scrap handset.

Now the IMEI inside the phone would not match the IMEI on the back. If the police get this phone would they think I have been changing IMEI's????

Where obviously I have not.

I assume they would have to prove it.

For all of us in th UK carrying out repairs, it may be a good idea to keep the damaged back, just in case.

robbiesl42 · 03-14-2003, 10:47

@drug_store.

even on a SL45 the imei change will work.

Drug_Store · 03-14-2003, 14:54

Ok, if you say so... I never seen and couldn´t change IMEI into a SL45. And Robbie we both know about SL45 with wrong IMEI, right? what intend to happend? Wrong sw, just light up and etc...

Drug_Store · 03-14-2003, 14:57

Quote:

Originally posted by ali-g-string

Where obviously I have not.

I assume they would have to prove it.

No. You got to prove that you didn´t change the IMEI. Not them... prove to you...

robbiesl42 · 03-14-2003, 15:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Drug_Store
And Robbie we both know about SL45 with wrong IMEI, right? what intend to happend? Wrong sw, just light up and etc...

what do you meen by this please explain a bit more

Thankyou

robbiesl42 · 03-14-2003, 15:20

oh and my brocken sl45 had a diffrent imei number then the defult one and all works fine.

Drug_Store · 03-14-2003, 20:14

"quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Drug_Store
And Robbie we both know about SL45 with wrong IMEI, right? what intend to happend? Wrong sw, just light up and etc...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

what do you meen by this please explain a bit more

Thankyou"

Many siemens phones needs reparacion because of wrong IMEI written with flash or on unlockment procedure.

Oh another simple questio... If it´s able to change the IMEI and the phone works ok, what happend when other phone uses the same IMEI you use? The network will grant access to 2 phones with same IMEI?

There´s something wrong on this tail...

robbiesl42 · 03-14-2003, 20:38

no they wont come up with the number a i make my own number starting will 09987

Drug_Store · 03-14-2003, 20:56

Yes, but there´s always a chance of someone using the same...

robbiesl42 · 03-14-2003, 21:42

very unlikly. but yeah i know what you meen. anyway

03-13-2003, 18:09	#1 (permalink)
rudeboymcc Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London Age: 37 Posts: 136 Member: 24408 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	imei change illegalises phone? hi. i've read thrlough the forum and found many people changing their imei number. i live in the uk and there's a new security operation out for stolen phones, where they send a high frequency to the phone and make it unuseable, i think that's how they do it. anyway, i was jsut thinking, if the phone has an imei number that's not recognise, might this accidently happen? another thing, if the police get hold of it and want to check if it's stolen, when they type in the imei number and no results come back ,they'll no it's not the phone's original, whcih immediatly makes them assume it's stolen. they'll take the phone, and give you a warning. am i right?

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03-13-2003, 18:19	#2 (permalink)
robbiesl42 No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.K Age: 35 Posts: 787 Member: 18319 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Yes dude you are right. Am in the uk as well. however let me correct you there just a bit. the way that they ( the networks) block it is they type the IMEI number on to there system and then you make it as there network wont regs the imei when the phone is swiched on. so therefor no network, if the police chacht you with a fone that has had it's imei changed. then they will ask you were did you get the phone from. Or they will asum that you did it therefore you will get 5 year in jail!! and for that matter every phone shop in the uk has the police come in as that i meen small shops not the link dixons t-moble ect ect.... i Hope this makes it clear for every one in the Uk !

03-13-2003, 19:04	#3 (permalink)
rudeboymcc Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London Age: 37 Posts: 136 Member: 24408 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	so if a network do block an imei number from their network ,making unusable according to them, a simple imei change will make it work again? and ther's no harm done to the phone?

03-13-2003, 19:16	#4 (permalink)
Drug_Store No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 8,456 Member: 15312 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1576041 Thanks Meter: 1,097	Many siemens models won´t work after changing the IMEI... The only model I´ve made IMEI change and it worked was on C / M / and S 35. The Network Block by IMEI, it´s mostly used on Nokias...

03-14-2003, 10:38	#5 (permalink)
ali-g-string No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 526 Member: 11099 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 5	What would happen if I did for instance a back cover change on a phone. Got the back from a scrap handset. Now the IMEI inside the phone would not match the IMEI on the back. If the police get this phone would they think I have been changing IMEI's???? Where obviously I have not. I assume they would have to prove it. For all of us in th UK carrying out repairs, it may be a good idea to keep the damaged back, just in case.

03-14-2003, 10:47	#6 (permalink)
robbiesl42 No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.K Age: 35 Posts: 787 Member: 18319 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	@drug_store. even on a SL45 the imei change will work.

03-14-2003, 14:54	#7 (permalink)
Drug_Store No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 8,456 Member: 15312 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1576041 Thanks Meter: 1,097	Ok, if you say so... I never seen and couldn´t change IMEI into a SL45. And Robbie we both know about SL45 with wrong IMEI, right? what intend to happend? Wrong sw, just light up and etc...

03-14-2003, 15:20	#10 (permalink)
robbiesl42 No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.K Age: 35 Posts: 787 Member: 18319 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	oh and my brocken sl45 had a diffrent imei number then the defult one and all works fine.

03-14-2003, 20:14	#11 (permalink)
Drug_Store No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 8,456 Member: 15312 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1576041 Thanks Meter: 1,097	"quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Drug_Store And Robbie we both know about SL45 with wrong IMEI, right? what intend to happend? Wrong sw, just light up and etc... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- what do you meen by this please explain a bit more Thankyou" Many siemens phones needs reparacion because of wrong IMEI written with flash or on unlockment procedure. Oh another simple questio... If it´s able to change the IMEI and the phone works ok, what happend when other phone uses the same IMEI you use? The network will grant access to 2 phones with same IMEI? There´s something wrong on this tail...

03-14-2003, 20:38	#12 (permalink)
robbiesl42 No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.K Age: 35 Posts: 787 Member: 18319 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	no they wont come up with the number a i make my own number starting will 09987

03-14-2003, 20:56	#13 (permalink)
Drug_Store No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 8,456 Member: 15312 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1576041 Thanks Meter: 1,097	Yes, but there´s always a chance of someone using the same...

03-14-2003, 21:42	#14 (permalink)
robbiesl42 No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.K Age: 35 Posts: 787 Member: 18319 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	very unlikly. but yeah i know what you meen. anyway