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Drug_Store · 06-15-2005, 03:10

Hi,

I have a Compaq Presario 1500 (1525ea) and after updating my BIOS with softpaq 28979.exe that contains VERSION: KG.M1.17, and at the end of writting the 8th block, verified and all, but pc got stuck. I left him for more then an hour powered on, since he should restart itself... Well nothing else to do, I had to power off. Now, don´t start. I press power on, and nothing appears on the screen.

I assume that BIOS chip is empty...
My BIOS chip is SST MFP 39SF040, and luckly is not soldered on board. But what to do now?

I already get the backup created before BIOS update. The one that Winphlash creates before doing it.

How can I write it back?

I´m trying to write it on other motherboard, but no luck...

Please give me some help.

Thanks

Drug_Store · 06-15-2005, 17:11

Come on...

No one can help?

I still trying to flash it on other motherboard, but pc get´s stuck when flashing new BIOS...

And for all u wondering how I do such thing since PC not works, I explain.
A solution for this is to take the bad BIOS chip into a motherboard with a good BIOS chip. In resume another PC. Start the PC in DOS (most adviced, however I also tried under XP and also works), and after pc is running, remove the BIOS chip and put the "bad" BIOS chip. Yes while working. No worrie, won´t bite u...

After the "bad" BIOS is on the working pc, try to update the BIOS. After if successfull, turn off the pc, insert the BIOS chip back to "bad" pc and power on.

Usually this is recommend to do under a motherboard exactly equal to your pc, but others might work, since is compatible. I mean, if u use a Phoenix BIOS (like mine), can try on other board also using Phoenix BIOS. Not matter if is laptop board or desktop board.

Ok it´s explained...

But for me is not working.
Under DOS, I can´t start Phlash sw, gives some error. Under XP, Winphlash get´s pc stuck...

Maybe because I´m not trying in a motherboard with Phoenix BIOS. The one I got here to test, is desktop ASUS P4C800 that uses and AMI BIOS. I´ll try to test on other board that actually has a Phoenix or Award BIOS (Award is same as Phoenix since one company bought the other in 1998).

I need some advices or new ideas... mostly, how to write back the winphlash backup.

Thanks

Dolph · 06-15-2005, 17:28

buy a new laptop

Dolph

Asterisk · 06-15-2005, 17:31

dolphmania lol
better reprogramm the bios chip with a standard eeprom/mcu programmer. should be the easiest and fastest way. post here bios-chip device name, maybe there is some easy programmer availible....

Drug_Store · 06-15-2005, 18:32

@Dolph
I have other laptops and other desktops, that is not the point...

@Asterisk
Yes I know is easier to reprogram with external EEprom device, but I don´t have it... and how would I write the *.wph or *.rom ?

Asterisk · 06-15-2005, 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drug_Store

@Dolph
I have other laptops and other desktops, that is not the point...

@Asterisk
Yes I know is easier to reprogram with external EEprom device, but I don´t have it... and how would I write the *.wph or *.rom ?

some external ee programmer can be built very simple within a few minutes, therefore i asked about the type.
as for the code, this is mostly normal binary code that is supported by every programmer.

Drug_Store · 06-15-2005, 18:59

I think is LCC 32pins... not sure if it really calls LCC

jascorp9 · 06-15-2005, 19:58

i just can't say what to do now except contact your vendor if your motherboard is under warranty as i don't have deep technical knowledge, but please be sure next time not to upgrade BIOS unless u get acpi bios errors or other bios errors as it is strictly warned about bios upgrades that unneccessary ones can cause system crash.

YourPhone · 06-15-2005, 20:02

send back BIOS chip to HP/Compaq they will reprogram (for a small fee) I have done this before in the past, seek your local service centre and phone/email them, they are more helpfull than you think

HONGXING · 06-15-2005, 23:52

You could flash LPC chips very easily. Programmers for this can be bought on some Xbox modchips sites cheaply.

Don't need to buy new mainboard or BIOS chip.

BTW, if you program it in other PC, use UniFlash, not the vendors flasher, as it will not check the mainboard type.

Drug_Store · 06-21-2005, 16:13

Yeah I got Uniflash1.40 and tried it under DOS, but when opening the sw, it gives some errors and exit...

I need other sw to write the BIOS, under DOS or Windows...

Thanks to all of u

Drug_Store · 06-21-2005, 16:24

BTW, in Winphlash (proper phoenix flashing on XP), I can actually see that the chip still has most of the infomation, like Vendor/Type/SN...

I tested the chip on BiosMD and look at the result:
All ok, but APM failed...

And also found out why this was cause, because the BIOS I wrote wasn´t for Presario 15xx, was for Evo n9000

Thanks

06-15-2005, 03:10	#1 (permalink)
Drug_Store No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 8,456 Member: 15312 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1576041 Thanks Meter: 1,097	Need help from computer experts!!! Hi, I have a Compaq Presario 1500 (1525ea) and after updating my BIOS with softpaq 28979.exe that contains VERSION: KG.M1.17, and at the end of writting the 8th block, verified and all, but pc got stuck. I left him for more then an hour powered on, since he should restart itself... Well nothing else to do, I had to power off. Now, don´t start. I press power on, and nothing appears on the screen. I assume that BIOS chip is empty... My BIOS chip is SST MFP 39SF040, and luckly is not soldered on board. But what to do now? I already get the backup created before BIOS update. The one that Winphlash creates before doing it. How can I write it back? I´m trying to write it on other motherboard, but no luck... Please give me some help. Thanks

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06-15-2005, 17:11	#2 (permalink)
Drug_Store No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 8,456 Member: 15312 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1576041 Thanks Meter: 1,097	Come on... No one can help? I still trying to flash it on other motherboard, but pc get´s stuck when flashing new BIOS... And for all u wondering how I do such thing since PC not works, I explain. A solution for this is to take the bad BIOS chip into a motherboard with a good BIOS chip. In resume another PC. Start the PC in DOS (most adviced, however I also tried under XP and also works), and after pc is running, remove the BIOS chip and put the "bad" BIOS chip. Yes while working. No worrie, won´t bite u... After the "bad" BIOS is on the working pc, try to update the BIOS. After if successfull, turn off the pc, insert the BIOS chip back to "bad" pc and power on. Usually this is recommend to do under a motherboard exactly equal to your pc, but others might work, since is compatible. I mean, if u use a Phoenix BIOS (like mine), can try on other board also using Phoenix BIOS. Not matter if is laptop board or desktop board. Ok it´s explained... But for me is not working. Under DOS, I can´t start Phlash sw, gives some error. Under XP, Winphlash get´s pc stuck... Maybe because I´m not trying in a motherboard with Phoenix BIOS. The one I got here to test, is desktop ASUS P4C800 that uses and AMI BIOS. I´ll try to test on other board that actually has a Phoenix or Award BIOS (Award is same as Phoenix since one company bought the other in 1998). I need some advices or new ideas... mostly, how to write back the winphlash backup. Thanks

06-15-2005, 17:28	#3 (permalink)
Dolph Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 51 Posts: 7 Member: 153560 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	buy a new laptop Dolph

06-15-2005, 17:31	#4 (permalink)
Asterisk Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 23 Member: 84148 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	dolphmania lol better reprogramm the bios chip with a standard eeprom/mcu programmer. should be the easiest and fastest way. post here bios-chip device name, maybe there is some easy programmer availible....

06-15-2005, 18:32	#5 (permalink)
Drug_Store No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 8,456 Member: 15312 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1576041 Thanks Meter: 1,097	@Dolph I have other laptops and other desktops, that is not the point... @Asterisk Yes I know is easier to reprogram with external EEprom device, but I don´t have it... and how would I write the .wph or .rom ?

06-15-2005, 18:59	#7 (permalink)
Drug_Store No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 8,456 Member: 15312 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1576041 Thanks Meter: 1,097	I think is LCC 32pins... not sure if it really calls LCC

06-15-2005, 19:58	#8 (permalink)
jascorp9 No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: new delhi, india Age: 39 Posts: 978 Member: 120647 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 32	i just can't say what to do now except contact your vendor if your motherboard is under warranty as i don't have deep technical knowledge, but please be sure next time not to upgrade BIOS unless u get acpi bios errors or other bios errors as it is strictly warned about bios upgrades that unneccessary ones can cause system crash.

06-15-2005, 20:02	#9 (permalink)
YourPhone No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: South Coast UK Posts: 995 Member: 58075 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 17	send back BIOS chip to HP/Compaq they will reprogram (for a small fee) I have done this before in the past, seek your local service centre and phone/email them, they are more helpfull than you think

06-15-2005, 23:52	#10 (permalink)
HONGXING No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Inside 8250 UART and 8086 CPU ;-) Posts: 1,024 Member: 33079 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	You could flash LPC chips very easily. Programmers for this can be bought on some Xbox modchips sites cheaply. Don't need to buy new mainboard or BIOS chip. BTW, if you program it in other PC, use UniFlash, not the vendors flasher, as it will not check the mainboard type.

06-21-2005, 16:13	#11 (permalink)
Drug_Store No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 8,456 Member: 15312 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1576041 Thanks Meter: 1,097	Yeah I got Uniflash1.40 and tried it under DOS, but when opening the sw, it gives some errors and exit... I need other sw to write the BIOS, under DOS or Windows... Thanks to all of u