LOL! ! ! ! Check this !
 

Hehe -;) Did he really have Cruiser, or this is usuall scam from these cheaters?

becouse this reason price goes down on 210 eur for upgrade!
cheaters or nice people??????
that is the quastion....
and pleas this guys which have too much time and main occupation is to replay on this quastion "in the name of the father", pleas be quiet, kind and genlte and let "father" talk!
he,he punks!
legija cheers!

Personally i think that **** just bullshlting us, as allways.
I don't trust him, and never will, especially when any of Lead's products is involved.

I don't think Cruiser price is lower because of this, but because of new situation on SE market.

First versions of Schlumberger Cyberflex (v1.0) can be readed out without any 'internal depackaging' or any other kind of phisical attack. That because of bug inside java implementation.
And if Lead reused some old Fighter cards (reprogrammed with Cruiser applet) this is the result.
This bugs also was my reason to choose another Java cards for PBB.

Best regards,
Zulea

And I'm sure Lead already knows this...

Besides, if this were the case, why didn't we see a Fighter schematic/source in the past?

You not see in the past because this info is not known for so long time and for many people. Also what schematic and source you want to see? The wiring diagram from smartcard to USB port? Are you know what you are talking here?
About the sources, you cannot get the sources, it can be extracted only a CAP file (if you know what is this).

Anyway time will show to all of us what Anatoli do with this Cyberflex javacards. But even if he is the Father of all cheaters, I will not bet he not have what he claims.

Also do you really think they lowered prices 'for next day' just because of Setool2? They not lowered the prices when my tools was cheaper, cracked and free, and you think they do now because of Laser competition? he, he, ...

Best regards,
Zulea

This is exactly the reason why we introduced the annoying registration process with Fighter - to be sure whether clones exist or not. If they existed, we wouldn't offer upgrades.

Because noone is interested in schematics.
Source code is well protected, but you mean probably the card content.

@ Lead:

So, you're affraid of clones ;)

Best regards,
Zulea

P.S. Thanks for your very old expalanations about what is Phoenix:

"Phoenix is the name of a mythical bird which, when it comes to death, it turns to ash. The ash then ignites in golden fire, and the Phoenix is revived in it's own sacred fire. To this end, the Phoenix is an immortal, never really dying, just reviving from its own remains..." (c) Lead

For confirmation see your post:

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...256#post171256

:p

Cruiser cards do not use CAP files. First generation of Schlumberger Java cards used this format.

We saturated the market with our high, but adequate prices. So lowering prices was the only possible step, although it was not meant to be so fast. Everybody could have expected your free tool for unlocking new SE phones, which you have promised to release until one or two weeks from Cruiser/Nemesis release. SETool2 with its "killing" prices has just made the step to be much faster than previously expected.

Not afraid, but curious. I suspected SphereGSM of making Fighter (not Cruiser) clones.
Who wouldn't be?
Ok, now I close this topic.