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08-10-2002, 18:17
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| No Life Poster  Join Date: Mar 2002
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Member: 10175 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0 | How to use SIMscan or Cardinal and other questions? I am new to SIM cloning... I just built the Dejan SIM Reader and tried to read out the KI out of the SIM Card (D2/Vodafone). I tried to use SIMScan V1.33, but after entering my PIN, I get an Windows (ME) error message about an access violation. I also tried to use Windows NT4.0 Here the Program crashes, but this time without an error message. The second Program I tried to use is Cardinal This program (Sim Card Editor) works fine, to read telephone book or SIM info, but when I try to find the Ki (After loading the "Find Ki projekt" ), I get the Message: Error: "No Byte(s) in the input buffer! Check the card!" Can you tell me, what is the mistake, i make? Or is the SIM card too new, so that it can't be read? It's from 2001. Another question: For what can I scan the card with the "Smart card scanner" in Cardinal? Can you give me some links, where I get some more information about SIM Cloning and What programs I can use for it, and how they work? OK Thank you very much in advance! Greetings, Chris |
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08-11-2002, 13:06
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Member: 10175 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0 | Hi ! Now I am a step further... Now i was able to extract the KI out of my old D2/Vodafone Card. I used Cardinal. With the newer D2/Vodafone SIM (1 Year old) Cardinal now works too (I dont know what the error before caused), but extrecting the Ki seems not to work. Is this card too new? I wonder, how this can be... If D2/Vodafone would have changed thair crypting algorithm, all the old cards would not work any more, but if the crypt algorithm is the same, why does the cryptoanalysis fail? Last edited by chris922; 08-11-2002 at 13:44. |
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08-11-2002, 23:00
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| Junior Member  Join Date: Mar 2002
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Member: 10088 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0 | Welcome Chris: 1.Use SIM_Scan 1.33 in Real DOS with CWSDPMI, SIM_SCAN 1.33 is safer & quicker than cardinal v68 2.The A3/A8 crypting is store both in SIM Card and service provider center, If your service provider wants to change the crypting.they must ask you to change a new sim card. As I know for now there are Comp128v1 ,Comp128v2 & DES/3DES for A3 crypting. But for now there is only Comp128v1 Clone Card. This is because only Compv128v1 is exposed. Sorry for my poor english!! Last edited by asykgsm; 08-12-2002 at 16:00. |
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08-13-2002, 07:19
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Member: 10175 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0 | Thank you for your reply! Now i got simscan to work, too. It works with D2/vodafone cards. For other SIMs it crashes... But that doesn't matter, because only at (old) D2/vodafone cards, you can find the Ki. For my new D2/Vodafone Card, it is trying to find the KI, but finds no single byte... So I think it uses Comp128v2 Now I try to program a PIC+EEPROM :-), but have problems with the programming interface... But i kep on working! Greetings, Chris |
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08-13-2002, 08:12
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| Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Netherlands
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Member: 3561 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1 |  @Playboy: That's crappy advice... On how many cards did you test it? Cradinal is a cardkiller!! Don't use it! Many people already experienced temselves that Cardinal WILL kill your original simcard in alot of cases! Pls use sim_scan for ki extraction. It's a much much safer way! Haven't heard of people killing their cards with sim_scan yet. -=K=- |
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08-13-2002, 10:16
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| No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Earth
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Member: 3506 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 6 | mail me i can help you Quote:
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08-13-2002, 22:00
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| Insane Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Moscow city Age: 40
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Member: 11199 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0 | @-=KnOeFz=- If you use Cardinal v 4.6 beta, may be you got a problem.. But if you have specialy edited for best quarz resonator .. So man, do not take offence.. Regards Play  |
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08-13-2002, 22:47
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| Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Netherlands
Posts: 361
Member: 3561 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1 | @Playboy last version I know of is Cardinal 6.8 and is still killing cards... But that's just my experience... (and also many others!) I learned the hard way to stick to simscan. -=K=- |
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