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unlockgod · 03-25-2002, 23:26

8 in 1 simcard

SIMCARD8 is a preprogrammed simcard that allow to store or make a backup of 8 different mobile phone sim cards in only 1 simcard. You will need to know IMSI and Ki codes of every simcard that you want to make backup. IMSI and Ki codes are the codes that identify a simcard at your network provider, this codes are encrypted at your original simcard, to find out your will need our SIM-MASTER card reader/writer.
Features:
• Support for 8 different provider names on the same card
• PIN security management like original SIM cards. (3 PIN attempts + 10 PUK attempts)
• Storage capacity between 125 and 250 phonebook entries (0 to 125 in EEPROM and 125 on FLASH)
• SMS storage capacity configurable from 20 to 40 SMS
• Individual SMS centre number for each of the 8 phone numbers
• Storage of 10 last dialed numbers (Used only on some mobile brands)
• Support for NOKIA, SIEMENS, ALCATEL, PHILIPS, ERICSSON, MOTOROLA, MAXON, PANASONIC, MITSUBISHI, NEC, SAMSUNG mobile phones. Be sure that your phone is unlocked, to be sure that SIMCARD8 will be accepted at your mobile phone.
• Update of the 8 phone numbers using the mobile itself (Change in the parameter order)
• Selection of the ratio of SMS/Phonebook entries in the mobile itself
How to use:
The SIMCARD8 is initially programmed with 3 demo cards of Amena, Movistar and Airtel (Spanish operators). So it allow to enter the following 3 PINS (position / PIN / PUK):
1st position 1111 / 11111111 (Amena)
2nd position 2222 / 22222222 (Movistar)
3rd position 3333 / 33333333 (Airtel)
corresponding to positions 1 to 3 from the 8 possible ones.
The reason for only having three and not only one is so that you can insert the card into a locked phone. So, each PIN is for one of the Spanish operators... If the phone is locked, use the corresponding one.
All of them have false IMSIs, but corresponding to those operators. If the phone is unlocked you can use any of them.
Once the phone is on and the PIN is inserted the proceeding to update our phone numbers' data is simply top store (not send) a message with one of the following formats:
Type 1) Inserting/Modifying a complete number
PINa N IMSI KI PUK PINn
Type 2) Inserting/Modifying of a number without changing PIN/PUK
PINa N IMSI KI
Type 3) Deleting a number
PINa N EN
Type 4) Selecting the number of SMSs and phonebook entries (Deletes all SMS's and phonebook entries on the external EEPROM)
PINa MM SM
Where:
PINa is the PIN used to power on the phone and is used to authenticate the message and NOT to modify the PIN. It's composed by 4 to 8 decimal (0-9) digits. Examples: 1234, 5678 or 12345678
N the phone number position. A number from 1 to 8 corresponding to the "card" the operation is concerning
IMSI is the IMSI value to store in position N. It's a number with a length of 18 decimal digits, beeing the first two always "08". Example: 081234567890123456
KI is the valude of the KI to be stored in position N. It's an hex number (0-9 and A-F caps) with 32 digits length. Example: 0123456789ABCDEF0123456789ABCDEF
PUK is the value of the PUK to store on position N. It's a decimal number with 8 digits. Example: 12345678
PINn is the value of the new PIN to store on position N. It's a decimal number with length from 4 to 8 digits.
EN is a command indicator and must be present for the position N to be deleted.
MM is the number of desired SMSs. A number from 20 to 40 (including those).
SM is a command indicator to select the number of SMSs indicated by MM.
Complete example of a type 1 message to insert our number on position 8.
1111 8 082941705566778899 0123456789ABCDEF0123456789ABCDEF 12345678 12345
IMSI = 082941705566778899
KI = 0123456789ABCDEF0123456789ABCDEF
PUK = 12345678
PIN = 12345
Once this message is stored on the SIM, power cycling the phone we can enter PIN 12345 and it'll correspond to our just inserted number.
Notes
You must leave at least (and at most) one space between each field, so the possible lengths for the messages are:
Type 1: Between 72 (4 digit PINs) and 80 (8 digit PINs)
Type 2: Between 58 (4 digit PINs) and 62 (8 digit PINs)
Type 3: Between 9 (4 digit PINs) and 13 (8 digit PINs)
Tipo 4: Between 10 (4 digit PINs) and 14 (8 digit PINs)
A type 2 message is used to update a number keeping it's current PIN and PUK. Be aware that initially there are no PIN/PUKs associated with positions from 4 to 8. So, if you wish to have PUK security you must use at least once a type 1 (with PIN and PUK) message for those positions.
The update itself is done when the phone writes the message to the SIM and not when it's stored on the phone's own memory like on Ericsson phones. On these models you should give the command to store on the SIM yourself.
To avoid deleting all numbers leaving you with no chance to introduce new ones without reprogramming the card, the program running on the card does not allow you to delete the current number (the one corresponding to the PIN with which the phone was turned on).
The deletion of a number (position) consists on zeroing out all it's data (IMSI / KI / PUK and PIN).
Once all the numbers are stored and working, delete the SMSs used to do it as the card won't delete them automatically.
The new message type 4 is used to select the SMS's and also phonebook entries with the following ratios:
SMS's PhoneBook SMSs PhoneBook
20 250 30 188
21 244 31 181
22 238 32 175
23 232 33 169
24 225 34 162
25 219 35 156
26 213 36 150
27 206 37 144
28 200 38 137
29 194 39 131
-- -- 40 125

northernbloke · 03-25-2002, 23:56

looks like an almost direct translation of SimEmu3 to me.

unlockgod · 03-26-2002, 00:31

i found it on ucables.com website

do you have source code as link does not work if so please email to me thanx

NNN · 03-26-2002, 00:46

so what they do is that they sell you preprogrammed silver pics by dejan gsm_sim , that all that is left for you to do is to set the ki and imsi using any phoenix / smartmouse hardware ... still a good solution for those who dont have a jdm interface ;-)

Eurocrypt · 03-26-2002, 02:17

I think it´s a shame that U-cables
making Bucks of stuff Author of SimEmu
giving out for free !!

Link to SimEmu Author´s HP

http://www.ciberia.ya.com/simemu
http://perso.wanadoo.es/djabif
http://www.meigo.com/simemu

//Eurocrypt

Alf · 03-26-2002, 23:13

Don't go jumping on conclusions. Both the ucables site and SIMEMU author are Spanish, aren't they?

Maybe they have a deal...

unlockgod · 03-27-2002, 19:06

I didn't mean to cause arguements I am quite new to sim cloning.

I have tried to read IMSI + KI but program SIMSCAN 1.21 gives ERROR Message:

Fatal error: card don't send answer to reset !

Why does this happen anyone??

Is it that I am doing this wrong or is it because sims I am trying to get info on are not compatible?>???

Please help someone!!!

khyros · 04-14-2002, 12:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Alf
Don't go jumping on conclusions. Both the ucables site and SIMEMU author are Spanish, aren't they?

Maybe they have a deal...

Nothing like that... there's been loads of posts about that in spanish forums and now it's clear that uclables has literally stolen simemu's work for their own profit. Remember that simemu does all this entirely free... they havent even answered emails regarding sim8 or whatever.

simemu · 04-14-2002, 21:08

Parece que en este foro se han enterado antes que España de que estaban vendiendo tarjetas con el SIM-EMU pregrabado.

Podrías traducirme esto al inglés que a mi me cuesta muchísimo ?

Es un post que puse en los foros españoles que soy asiduo.

=============================

Por favor, leed esto acerca del SIM-EMU y SIMCARD8

Hoy, gracias a un correo que he recibido del Sr. KARDIO y lamentablemente para mi, me pude enterar de lo que están haciendo los Sres de UCABLE y os aseguro que no me lo han consultado y mucho menos pedir algún tipo de permiso.

Pasad por estas urls http://ucables.com/products/simcards/index2.htm
http://ucables.com/ref/SIMCARD8

Ni siquiera fueron capaces de cambiar los trozos de mi página que han publicado en la de ellos.

Ya les he mandado varios correos, pero no sé siquiera de donde son, parece que tienen algo en Cordoba y EEUU.

Realmente, este tipo de cosas que hacen algunos buitres, le quitan a uno las ganas de continuar lo que se uno hace con mucho placer.

Ya os contaré, si me responden algo estos "buenos" Sres de UCABLES.

Un saludo a todos y muchas gracias por haber leído esto.

SimEmu
Daniel Jabif

==============================

De momento estoy negociando alguna compensación económica ya que parece que no hay intención de dejar de venderlo, asi que ya os contaré.

Un saludo a todos

khyros · 04-14-2002, 21:52

Quote:

Originally posted by simemu
Parece que en este foro se han enterado antes que España de que estaban vendiendo tarjetas con el SIM-EMU pregrabado.

Podrías traducirme esto al inglés que a mi me cuesta muchísimo ?

Es un post que puse en los foros españoles que soy asiduo.

=============================

Por favor, leed esto acerca del SIM-EMU y SIMCARD8

Hoy, gracias a un correo que he recibido del Sr. KARDIO y lamentablemente para mi, me pude enterar de lo que están haciendo los Sres de UCABLE y os aseguro que no me lo han consultado y mucho menos pedir algún tipo de permiso.

Pasad por estas urls http://ucables.com/products/simcards/index2.htm
http://ucables.com/ref/SIMCARD8

Ni siquiera fueron capaces de cambiar los trozos de mi página que han publicado en la de ellos.

Ya les he mandado varios correos, pero no sé siquiera de donde son, parece que tienen algo en Cordoba y EEUU.

Realmente, este tipo de cosas que hacen algunos buitres, le quitan a uno las ganas de continuar lo que se uno hace con mucho placer.

Ya os contaré, si me responden algo estos "buenos" Sres de UCABLES.

Un saludo a todos y muchas gracias por haber leído esto.

SimEmu
Daniel Jabif

==============================

De momento estoy negociando alguna compensación económica ya que parece que no hay intención de dejar de venderlo, asi que ya os contaré.

Un saludo a todos

Translation from simemu's post.

=============================

Please, read this about SIMEMU & Simcard8

Today, and thanks to a mail from Sr.KADIO, and sadly for me, I've been told what Ucable is doing with my simemu. I can assure you that they've not asked me about permission nor they have received any kind of authorisation from me.

Have a look at these URLs http://ucables.com/products/simcards/index2.htm
http://ucables.com/ref/SIMCARD8

They didn´t even changed a single piece of my page that have been published on their server. (apart from the literal translation)

I've already send them several emails, but i dont even know where there actually; it seems there's something around Cordoba (Spain) and the US.

It really feels bad for someone who spend his time doing something that he likes (simemu) when this kind of things are discovered. Sometimes you can even think about stopping developing all this...

I will keep you informed about everything, specially if UCABLES finally replies me.

Regards to all and thanks for having read this.

SimEmu
Daniel Jabif

=============================

So far, it seems that both Simemu and Ucables are trying to reach an economical agreement, as it seems there0s no willing from Ucables to stop selling this product.

Regards to all
=============================

ps from khyros, hope the translation is understandable and decent

im a geneticist not a translator!!!

Josh

simemu · 04-14-2002, 22:40

Thank you very much for your excellent translation.

Best regards
Daniel

unlockgod · 04-15-2002, 17:37

I need to know which is best / cheapest programmer for using with these sims..

I now feel much better knowing that ucables are being told not to charge.

i feel ripped off having bought some sims from them

please someone help i have simmaster hardware can this be used??

03-25-2002, 23:26	#1 (permalink)
unlockgod No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Place called Earth Age: 47 Posts: 984 Member: 5285 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 82	What about this one!!!!! look here 8 in 1 simcard SIMCARD8 is a preprogrammed simcard that allow to store or make a backup of 8 different mobile phone sim cards in only 1 simcard. You will need to know IMSI and Ki codes of every simcard that you want to make backup. IMSI and Ki codes are the codes that identify a simcard at your network provider, this codes are encrypted at your original simcard, to find out your will need our SIM-MASTER card reader/writer. Features: • Support for 8 different provider names on the same card • PIN security management like original SIM cards. (3 PIN attempts + 10 PUK attempts) • Storage capacity between 125 and 250 phonebook entries (0 to 125 in EEPROM and 125 on FLASH) • SMS storage capacity configurable from 20 to 40 SMS • Individual SMS centre number for each of the 8 phone numbers • Storage of 10 last dialed numbers (Used only on some mobile brands) • Support for NOKIA, SIEMENS, ALCATEL, PHILIPS, ERICSSON, MOTOROLA, MAXON, PANASONIC, MITSUBISHI, NEC, SAMSUNG mobile phones. Be sure that your phone is unlocked, to be sure that SIMCARD8 will be accepted at your mobile phone. • Update of the 8 phone numbers using the mobile itself (Change in the parameter order) • Selection of the ratio of SMS/Phonebook entries in the mobile itself How to use: The SIMCARD8 is initially programmed with 3 demo cards of Amena, Movistar and Airtel (Spanish operators). So it allow to enter the following 3 PINS (position / PIN / PUK): 1st position 1111 / 11111111 (Amena) 2nd position 2222 / 22222222 (Movistar) 3rd position 3333 / 33333333 (Airtel) corresponding to positions 1 to 3 from the 8 possible ones. The reason for only having three and not only one is so that you can insert the card into a locked phone. So, each PIN is for one of the Spanish operators... If the phone is locked, use the corresponding one. All of them have false IMSIs, but corresponding to those operators. If the phone is unlocked you can use any of them. Once the phone is on and the PIN is inserted the proceeding to update our phone numbers' data is simply top store (not send) a message with one of the following formats: Type 1) Inserting/Modifying a complete number PINa N IMSI KI PUK PINn Type 2) Inserting/Modifying of a number without changing PIN/PUK PINa N IMSI KI Type 3) Deleting a number PINa N EN Type 4) Selecting the number of SMSs and phonebook entries (Deletes all SMS's and phonebook entries on the external EEPROM) PINa MM SM Where: PINa is the PIN used to power on the phone and is used to authenticate the message and NOT to modify the PIN. It's composed by 4 to 8 decimal (0-9) digits. Examples: 1234, 5678 or 12345678 N the phone number position. A number from 1 to 8 corresponding to the "card" the operation is concerning IMSI is the IMSI value to store in position N. It's a number with a length of 18 decimal digits, beeing the first two always "08". Example: 081234567890123456 KI is the valude of the KI to be stored in position N. It's an hex number (0-9 and A-F caps) with 32 digits length. Example: 0123456789ABCDEF0123456789ABCDEF PUK is the value of the PUK to store on position N. It's a decimal number with 8 digits. Example: 12345678 PINn is the value of the new PIN to store on position N. It's a decimal number with length from 4 to 8 digits. EN is a command indicator and must be present for the position N to be deleted. MM is the number of desired SMSs. A number from 20 to 40 (including those). SM is a command indicator to select the number of SMSs indicated by MM. Complete example of a type 1 message to insert our number on position 8. 1111 8 082941705566778899 0123456789ABCDEF0123456789ABCDEF 12345678 12345 IMSI = 082941705566778899 KI = 0123456789ABCDEF0123456789ABCDEF PUK = 12345678 PIN = 12345 Once this message is stored on the SIM, power cycling the phone we can enter PIN 12345 and it'll correspond to our just inserted number. Notes You must leave at least (and at most) one space between each field, so the possible lengths for the messages are: Type 1: Between 72 (4 digit PINs) and 80 (8 digit PINs) Type 2: Between 58 (4 digit PINs) and 62 (8 digit PINs) Type 3: Between 9 (4 digit PINs) and 13 (8 digit PINs) Tipo 4: Between 10 (4 digit PINs) and 14 (8 digit PINs) A type 2 message is used to update a number keeping it's current PIN and PUK. Be aware that initially there are no PIN/PUKs associated with positions from 4 to 8. So, if you wish to have PUK security you must use at least once a type 1 (with PIN and PUK) message for those positions. The update itself is done when the phone writes the message to the SIM and not when it's stored on the phone's own memory like on Ericsson phones. On these models you should give the command to store on the SIM yourself. To avoid deleting all numbers leaving you with no chance to introduce new ones without reprogramming the card, the program running on the card does not allow you to delete the current number (the one corresponding to the PIN with which the phone was turned on). The deletion of a number (position) consists on zeroing out all it's data (IMSI / KI / PUK and PIN). Once all the numbers are stored and working, delete the SMSs used to do it as the card won't delete them automatically. The new message type 4 is used to select the SMS's and also phonebook entries with the following ratios: SMS's PhoneBook SMSs PhoneBook 20 250 30 188 21 244 31 181 22 238 32 175 23 232 33 169 24 225 34 162 25 219 35 156 26 213 36 150 27 206 37 144 28 200 38 137 29 194 39 131 -- -- 40 125

03-26-2002, 00:31	#3 (permalink)
unlockgod No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Place called Earth Age: 47 Posts: 984 Member: 5285 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 82	Yes it looks that way i found it on ucables.com website do you have source code as link does not work if so please email to me thanx

03-27-2002, 19:06	#7 (permalink)
unlockgod No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Place called Earth Age: 47 Posts: 984 Member: 5285 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 82	good point Alf I didn't mean to cause arguements I am quite new to sim cloning. I have tried to read IMSI + KI but program SIMSCAN 1.21 gives ERROR Message: Fatal error: card don't send answer to reset ! Why does this happen anyone?? Is it that I am doing this wrong or is it because sims I am trying to get info on are not compatible?>??? Please help someone!!!

04-14-2002, 21:08	#9 (permalink)
simemu No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Spain Age: 62 Posts: 855 Member: 10582 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 99	Para khyros Parece que en este foro se han enterado antes que España de que estaban vendiendo tarjetas con el SIM-EMU pregrabado. Podrías traducirme esto al inglés que a mi me cuesta muchísimo ? Es un post que puse en los foros españoles que soy asiduo. ============================= Por favor, leed esto acerca del SIM-EMU y SIMCARD8 Hoy, gracias a un correo que he recibido del Sr. KARDIO y lamentablemente para mi, me pude enterar de lo que están haciendo los Sres de UCABLE y os aseguro que no me lo han consultado y mucho menos pedir algún tipo de permiso. Pasad por estas urls http://ucables.com/products/simcards/index2.htm http://ucables.com/ref/SIMCARD8 Ni siquiera fueron capaces de cambiar los trozos de mi página que han publicado en la de ellos. Ya les he mandado varios correos, pero no sé siquiera de donde son, parece que tienen algo en Cordoba y EEUU. Realmente, este tipo de cosas que hacen algunos buitres, le quitan a uno las ganas de continuar lo que se uno hace con mucho placer. Ya os contaré, si me responden algo estos "buenos" Sres de UCABLES. Un saludo a todos y muchas gracias por haber leído esto. SimEmu Daniel Jabif ============================== De momento estoy negociando alguna compensación económica ya que parece que no hay intención de dejar de venderlo, asi que ya os contaré. Un saludo a todos

04-14-2002, 22:40	#11 (permalink)
simemu No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Spain Age: 62 Posts: 855 Member: 10582 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 99	For khyros Thank you very much for your excellent translation. Best regards Daniel

03-25-2002, 23:56	#2 (permalink)
northernbloke No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 544 Member: 8030 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	looks like an almost direct translation of SimEmu3 to me.

03-26-2002, 00:46	#4 (permalink)
NNN Freak Poster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ME Posts: 449 Member: 8400 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	so what they do is that they sell you preprogrammed silver pics by dejan gsm_sim , that all that is left for you to do is to set the ki and imsi using any phoenix / smartmouse hardware ... still a good solution for those who dont have a jdm interface ;-)

03-26-2002, 02:17	#5 (permalink)
Eurocrypt Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: At home Posts: 165 Member: 9602 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 5	I think it´s a shame that U-cables making Bucks of stuff Author of SimEmu giving out for free !! Link to SimEmu Author´s HP http://www.ciberia.ya.com/simemu http://perso.wanadoo.es/djabif http://www.meigo.com/simemu //Eurocrypt

03-26-2002, 23:13	#6 (permalink)
Alf No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Portugal Age: 49 Posts: 692 Member: 6156 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	Don't go jumping on conclusions. Both the ucables site and SIMEMU author are Spanish, aren't they? Maybe they have a deal...

04-15-2002, 17:37	#12 (permalink)
unlockgod No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Place called Earth Age: 47 Posts: 984 Member: 5285 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 82	can someone help me then for pointing this one out please!? I need to know which is best / cheapest programmer for using with these sims.. I now feel much better knowing that ucables are being told not to charge. i feel ripped off having bought some sims from them please someone help i have simmaster hardware can this be used??

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