Improve your Cyclone Box

[ptt]

To solve all your Power supplied to phone problem, localmode, etc

you need a good quality 5V 1.5 ~ 2 A switching power supply ( i use one from my Linksys PAP2T ATA ) and need to do next mod in your Cyclone Box:
1- Lift diode D6 near DC VPP socket ( lift anode lead only )

2- Remove solder jumper between leads 1 and 2 of the U1 (that is not installed )

3- Make a jumper between the point where is soldered the D6 anode ( it is conected to VPP + V socket ) and the pin 2 of the U1

thats all.... with this mod you loose the external VPP function, but solve
the Power & Local mode issue.

VERY IMPORTANT !!!! Use ONLY 5V DC Power suply, positive at center pin, conected to the Box DC (in box says AC) socket, otherwise you KILL YOUR BOX

Remember to conect first the DC power supply, then the USB cable, to get the box working properly....

If you want the 9V VPP, you can add the 5 to 9V DC-DC converter posted by MiH in this thread: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...=705261&page=2


Doing this mod you are voiding your box warranty


Hope this help somone....

BR

sorry my bad eng.

[.::koolfriend4u::.]

anxiously waiting for,how the product supporter/manager is going to respond for this idea..

good luck

[Hell-GSM]

ptt... Some questions....

* What you do is eliminate the Diode D6.. And remove the Jumper between pins 1 and 2 of U1... Then make a jumper between D6 anode and pin 2 of the U1...

* Is there any need why 5v isn't enough???? I mean with 5v is Ok???

* You said this way eliminate VPP external.. What does this mean is that I will no longer could Use VPP???

CycloneRobot...

* Is this modification good?? Opinions


BR

[ptt]

@ Hell-GSM

i don`t eliminate, just disconect it (lift from PCB), and remove "jumper solder" between pins 1 & 2 of U1 ( U1 is not installed )
and put a piece of cable conecting te point where is conected the anode of D6 and pin 2 of U1....

I say 5V 1.5 ~ 2 A good quality switching power supply, to repalce the power supplied by the USB port of the PC... I think most problems are related to power suppiled by the PC and the use of bad quality cables....

yes, if you do this mod, and use the DC socket of the box you loose the external VPP function (only external), unles you add the module posted by MiH in this thread:

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...=705261&page=2

or other similar..... or you can put another DC socket for supplie external power to the box, and left the VPP part untouched...

BR

[ptt]

@ Hell-GSM

Ahora en español:

No eliminé el diodo D6, solo lo levanté, asi deje libre el punto al que se conecta el pin central del socket de DC, al que despues voy a conectar los +5V.... despues, removí el puente de estaño que une las patas 1 y 2 de U1 (que no esta instalado, solo figura en el serigrafiado de la placa, supongo que pensaban poner otro LM1950T en ese lugar)
despues uni con un cable el punto donde estaba soldado el anodo del diodo D6 a la pata 2 del U1 ( el pinout del LM1950T es el sgte. 1= VCC IN 2= Out 3&4=GND 5=on/off )

si no entendi mal el segundo punto, no es que 5V no sean suficientes, sino que la corriente suministrada a los puertos usb puede no ser suficiente, debido a que la mayoria de los Motherboard de las PC actuales utilizan la fuente de 5V de stand-by para alimentar los puertos USB, y generalmente laf fuentes mas economicas no tienen una fuente de stand-by de buena calidad..... si modificas tu box, y la alimentas con mas de 5V la matas, por eso aclaro que se utilice una fuente switching de 5V de buena calidad

Si realizas la modificación como la hice yo, pierdes la Funcion de VPP externo, ya que estas usando el socket para alimentar la Box.... si queres usar el external VPP, puedes agregarle el modulo conversor DC-DC 5 a 9V del post de MiH o conseguir algun modulo de alguna placa ethernet de 10Mbps, de las que tienen conector BNC, en estas placas se usa un conversor DC-DC de 5 a 9V....

o podrias instalar otro socket para alimentar la Box, y dejar el original para ext VPP solo que tendrias que usar 2 fuentes, una de 5V para la Box y otra de 9V para VPP, en este caso dejas D6 como esta, y solo remueves el puente de estaño entre los pines 1 y 2 de U1, y conectas el +5V al pin 2 y GND de la fuente a lgun punto de GND de la placa

pero creo que la mejor opcion es usar un conversor DC-DC, y alimentar la Box con una sola fuente de 5V...

Espero haber aclarado tus dudas....

Saludos

@ moderators

sorry for post in spanish, but i think can explain better in spanish

BR

[Hell-GSM]

Your solution is good....
When I said remove D6 was exactly that.. Just disconnect from the circuit...

I like the Idea of DC-DC 5v to 9v... Is a very nice one.. I have a couple of Networks Card flying around..

I will look into the post you refer to...

Thanks Again and let hope what CyclonRobot says about...

En español..

Gracias, si esto funcionara se podria pensar en una fabricacion de la Cyclone con estas modificaciones integradas.. No deberia encarecer mucho el producto.
Realmente no me molesta mucho tener dos fuentes de alimentacion conectadas a la caja. Digamos q no es mucho problema.. Comparado con la seguridad de tener un modo estable en los telefonos nuevos...

Me decido a hacerlo y posteo fotos...

Gracias ...

[NADEEM GONDAL]

if that is Approved for need by cyclone programmer might be announced as Official MOD
thankx for this

[Aishur]

Better is to convert 9v (DC VPP)> 5v (Vbat).

The above solution need to have a powerful 5v supply and it loses the vpp.

I think it is better
To replace the solder jumper on the U1 by a diod from 1 Vin -> 2 Vout)
To add a lm7805 (input: D6 cathod, Output U1 Pin 2)

However there is many other mods like
modded powerd usb cable A To B
Powered adapter for Vbat with Vpp supply

Best Regards

[ptt]

You can use 9V input, and convert to 5V with LM7805, but it is a 1A linear voltage regulator, and you need to ad a good heatsink to avoid the 7805 die, and i think that is more easy to find a 5V 2A good quality switching power suply, than a 9V, and the DC-DC converter (5 to 9V) not drain much power, and generates less heat than 7805...

you can get the 5V PS from a Router, Wireless AP or router, VOIP ATA, etc..... many computer related devices 5V PS

or you can get 5V from the 4 pin Molex PC peripheral power connector ( red Wire )

BR

[antee7]

this box still under development so many comment on circuits, design etc. etc.

[karwos]

Any given modification is good, however i recommend not involing in box hw (due to warranty) better is to make combo USB cable which will deliver 1000mA and can be used to any product on market (jaf,hwk).

[ptt]

@ Cyclonebox

Yes, opening the box voids warranty, maybe you or Mr. Nadeem can edit my first post and add the warning " Doing this mod you are voiding your box warranty "

BR to Cyclone Team

Ptt

[CELLTOWN]

Originally Posted by cyclonebox

any given modification is good, however i recommend not involing in box hw (due to warranty) better is to make combo usb cable which will deliver 1000ma and can be used to any product on market (jaf,hwk).

when you say combo means those cables that came with some hard drive that use 2 usb ports and you show me diagram of that cable to build it my own

[Amir-SkillZ]

As he Said
to make COMBO-USB cable.
It will be universal for any box, and it will deliver at least 1000mA.
The idea is to make paraller V_USB_5V connection, so voltage will be still 5V but maximum current will be increased to ~1000mA.
If you know what i mean,
Input: 2 usb ports from PC/notebook
Output - USB_B (same used in common boxes)

Of course if we talk about voltage,
BSI is other story,

[Gsm-W]

Originally Posted by Amir-SkillZ

As he Said
to make COMBO-USB cable.
It will be universal for any box, and it will deliver at least 1000mA.
The idea is to make paraller V_USB_5V connection, so voltage will be still 5V but maximum current will be increased to ~1000mA.
If you know what i mean,
Input: 2 usb ports from PC/notebook
Output - USB_B (same used in common boxes)

Of course if we talk about voltage,
BSI is other story,

Any good pic for how to MOD it?? Really lack of basic E&E stuff ...

BR