*** Cyclone Box and VPP thing *** - GSM-Forum

karwos · 03-23-2009, 11:40

As almost each unlocker know, VPP is used to boost flash erase and store time.
It's common used for older NOR phones (in latest NAND/ONENAND, they are fast enough without VPP).
Before flashing phone with VPP make sure your cable have VPP connected to PIN 8 (or pin 9 on 10pin layout or pin 3 with adapter).
Now there is 2 boosting options:

1. Box can either supply own, internal generated VPP signal, but only 5v. So you need attach VPP Pump, then 9V will appear on output, and flashing will be boosted.
2. Box can supply native VPP signal. But correct DC power supply needs be applied. 10v should be enough (input diode resulting in voltage drop - about 0,6V + power IC also dropping some, so keep note that), programming not taking a much current so 100-500mA will be very fine (of course more will not do any damage).
You can check output voltage by running box selftest, so you can ensure you will kill or not kill your flash chip. As long as power supply manufacturers sometime likes to make some jokes

neo_49 · 04-05-2009, 18:46

This kind of cable modification is works with u r adapter.
REGARDS

karwos · 04-05-2009, 21:05

Would be anybody interested in PCB modification ? I can post such info, but then, remember that box will loose VPP funcionality ( can be restored later - no cuts , just restore one 0 Ohm resistor ), and TX2 signal needs be delivered on Service Pin 10.

akha · 04-09-2009, 04:49

sorry sir please help 4 this
Card Firmware Revision: 0109
Card is activated
Box is activated
Started box selftests procedure
USB Voltage 4.98v PASSED
MCU Voltage 3.25v PASSED
Core Voltage 1.81v PASSED
VBAT Voltage 1.31v PASSED
VBAT Voltage 4.87v PASSED
Box VPP disabled
VPP Voltage 0.00v PASSED
Internal Box VPP Enabled
VPP Voltage 4.81v PASSED
Box VPP disabled
VPP Voltage 0.04v PASSED
External Box VPP Enabled
VPP Voltage 0.04v FAILED - IGNORED - Probably power supply is not connected
Box VPP disabled
All box selftests passed!
Initializing FBUS...
All initialized - Ready to work
Processing pre-flash tasks...
Pre-flash tasks finished
Booting UPP...
UPP ID: 3040 [HW_UNKNOWN]
rm291__04.61.mcusw, Type: Flash Image, Algo: DCT4, DCT4 ALGORITHM
Flashbus Write baud set to 100Kbits
u3_2nd.fia, Type: 2nd Boot Loader, Rev: 7.4.77.0, Algo: DCT4
Box VPP disabled
Internal Phone VPP Selected
PLL Factor: 3
FlashChip[0]: 0x00208804 @ 0x01000000, ST, SectorSize: 128kB, Ext: 00007321
Signature: AD7EB61A1BBE0BE27D586BE4DBEE6514
Flashbus Write baud set to 1.0Mbits
Flashbus Read baud set to 51Kbits
u3_intel.fia, Type: Algorithm, Target: FlashChip[0] 0x00208804 (128Mbits), Rev: 7.4.77.0, Algo: DCT4 ALGORITHM
Nominal VPP Voltage: 9V, Detected: 0.00V
MSID-Crypted: 8411D09FE03EFDBDACD0C5F9B2
Using MSID-FAID Cache, Not wasting card
FAID-Crypted: 2AEA41225CE524B605171EC3
Flashbus Write baud set to 6.50Mbits
3 Region(s) to erase
Erasing NOR Region [0x01000000-0x0101FFFF]
Flash Erase Failed -> Failed at 0x01000000:0x00020000
Box VPP disabled
Processing Flash Image Failed -> Erase Failed, Region: 0
Failed to Flash -> Problem with processing MCU Image file

karwos · 04-10-2009, 09:54

Check cable, and then, is your phone flash chip in working condition ?

ags_nadhif · 04-10-2009, 10:06

yes ..I got it this happen sometime ..
may be depend on usb A to B is low quality or fbus too
but never obstacle before, where with another box everthing is ok
it,s strange..yea...

Quote:

Erasing NOR Region [0x01000000-0x0101FFFF]
Flash Erase Failed -> Failed at 0x01000000:0x00020000
Box VPP disabled
Processing Flash Image Failed -> Erase Failed, Region: 0
Failed to Flash -> Problem with processing MCU Image file

karwos · 04-10-2009, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by ags_nadhif

yes ..I got it this happen sometime ..
may be depend on usb A to B is low quality or fbus too
but never obstacle before, where with another box everthing is ok
it,s strange..yea...

Also how long is your USB cable ?

akha · 04-10-2009, 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclonebox

Check cable, and then, is your phone flash chip in working condition ?

my cable is good sir....& work whit ufs phone all ready & my usb cable by ip mart great cable sir

akha · 04-10-2009, 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclonebox

Check cable, and then, is your phone flash chip in working condition ?

my cyclone ready to work only on bb5 phone in dct4 not use please sir help my cyclone box & usb cable good,ufs cable rj45 is work on ufs,jaf,mt box & ub

farouk04 · 04-11-2009, 17:59

UPP ID: 3040 [HW_UNKNOWN] ????!!!!!
its HW probleme my dear

karwos · 04-13-2009, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by akha

my cyclone ready to work only on bb5 phone in dct4 not use please sir help my cyclone box & usb cable good,ufs cable rj45 is work on ufs,jaf,mt box & ub

Maybe you are using adapter with DCT4 phones

?

karwos · 04-13-2009, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by farouk04

UPP ID: 3040 [HW_UNKNOWN] ????!!!!!
its HW probleme my dear

It is not any problem in fact.
This is just for user information, what ASIC is installed in phone,
in this case UPP 3040 is not in SW database, but of course, supported.

Best Regards

syrmic · 04-14-2009, 23:31

can i ask one question
what about tx2???
when i try use service pin 10 my box say that
Partitioning OK
Started group flash erase
EraseArea[0,CMT]: 0x00040000-0x00082FFF, ONENAND
EraseArea[0,CMT]: 0x00083400-0x0087FFFF, ONENAND
EraseArea[0,CMT]: 0x00B80000-0x05F7FFFF, ONENAND
Erase Partition (CMT)
Erase Partition (CMT)
Waiting 320s for erasure finish...
Erase taken 1.110s
Writing all blocks...
Writing CMT ADA Certificate...
Block Write Failed -> Failed to write CMT cert data (3), Programming Status Error
Processing Flash Image Failed -> Failed to write all blocks
Failed to Process all Image files -> Failed to process RM223_21.0.010_prd.C00

karwos · 04-18-2009, 02:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by syrmic

can i ask one question
what about tx2???
when i try use service pin 10 my box say that
Partitioning OK
Started group flash erase
EraseArea[0,CMT]: 0x00040000-0x00082FFF, ONENAND
EraseArea[0,CMT]: 0x00083400-0x0087FFFF, ONENAND
EraseArea[0,CMT]: 0x00B80000-0x05F7FFFF, ONENAND
Erase Partition (CMT)
Erase Partition (CMT)
Waiting 320s for erasure finish...
Erase taken 1.110s
Writing all blocks...
Writing CMT ADA Certificate...
Block Write Failed -> Failed to write CMT cert data (3), Programming Status Error
Processing Flash Image Failed -> Failed to write all blocks
Failed to Process all Image files -> Failed to process RM223_21.0.010_prd.C00

This is very normal because your cable and our adapter providing TX2 at pin 3, so pin 10 will not work. Anyway in current firmware update (1.01) we've disabled this option (temporary i think) to not make any mess for end users which don't know how to use it.

ttlin5188 · 05-20-2009, 09:31

Started box selftests procedure
USB Voltage 4.99v PASSED
MCU Voltage 3.28v PASSED
Core Voltage 1.76v PASSED
VBAT Voltage 0.83v PASSED
VBAT Voltage 4.68v PASSED
Box VPP disabled
VPP Voltage 0.04v PASSED
Internal Box VPP Enabled
VPP Voltage 4.92v PASSED
Box VPP disabled
VPP Voltage 0.02v PASSED
External Box VPP Enabled
VPP Voltage 0.04v FAILED - IGNORED - Probably power supply is not connected
Box VPP disabled
All box selftests passed!
Initializing FBUS...
All initialized - Ready to work
MCU Version V 05wk07v48.2
MCU Date 04-10-07
Product RM-180
Manufacturer (c) Nokia.
IMEI 353089020918245
Mastercode 1031445342
IMEI Spare 3A35800902192804
IMEI SV 3335800902192804F9000000
PPM V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054
PSN CIJ206164
Product Code 0531463
Basic Product Code 0530940
PSD 0000001700000000
APE SW V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokia
APE Variant V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokia
APE HW 256
APE ADSP 16054
RETU 32
TAHVO 53
AHNE 22
HW 5001i,(V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054
PCI i,(V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054
UEM V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054
UPP V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054
RFIC 150a160f
DSP rolf_espresso_05wk07v29p1
LCD V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054
BT V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054
Failed to read info -> Failed to read extended info

03-23-2009, 11:40	#1 (permalink)
karwos No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34 Posts: 4,943 Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689	* Cyclone Box and VPP thing * As almost each unlocker know, VPP is used to boost flash erase and store time. It's common used for older NOR phones (in latest NAND/ONENAND, they are fast enough without VPP). Before flashing phone with VPP make sure your cable have VPP connected to PIN 8 (or pin 9 on 10pin layout or pin 3 with adapter). Now there is 2 boosting options: 1. Box can either supply own, internal generated VPP signal, but only 5v. So you need attach VPP Pump, then 9V will appear on output, and flashing will be boosted. 2. Box can supply native VPP signal. But correct DC power supply needs be applied. 10v should be enough (input diode resulting in voltage drop - about 0,6V + power IC also dropping some, so keep note that), programming not taking a much current so 100-500mA will be very fine (of course more will not do any damage). You can check output voltage by running box selftest, so you can ensure you will kill or not kill your flash chip. As long as power supply manufacturers sometime likes to make some jokes

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akha Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 39 Posts: 321 Member: 266974 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 43	sorry sir please help 4 this Card Firmware Revision: 0109 Card is activated Box is activated Started box selftests procedure USB Voltage 4.98v PASSED MCU Voltage 3.25v PASSED Core Voltage 1.81v PASSED VBAT Voltage 1.31v PASSED VBAT Voltage 4.87v PASSED Box VPP disabled VPP Voltage 0.00v PASSED Internal Box VPP Enabled VPP Voltage 4.81v PASSED Box VPP disabled VPP Voltage 0.04v PASSED External Box VPP Enabled VPP Voltage 0.04v FAILED - IGNORED - Probably power supply is not connected Box VPP disabled All box selftests passed! Initializing FBUS... All initialized - Ready to work Processing pre-flash tasks... Pre-flash tasks finished Booting UPP... UPP ID: 3040 [HW_UNKNOWN] rm291__04.61.mcusw, Type: Flash Image, Algo: DCT4, DCT4 ALGORITHM Flashbus Write baud set to 100Kbits u3_2nd.fia, Type: 2nd Boot Loader, Rev: 7.4.77.0, Algo: DCT4 Box VPP disabled Internal Phone VPP Selected PLL Factor: 3 FlashChip[0]: 0x00208804 @ 0x01000000, ST, SectorSize: 128kB, Ext: 00007321 Signature: AD7EB61A1BBE0BE27D586BE4DBEE6514 Flashbus Write baud set to 1.0Mbits Flashbus Read baud set to 51Kbits u3_intel.fia, Type: Algorithm, Target: FlashChip[0] 0x00208804 (128Mbits), Rev: 7.4.77.0, Algo: DCT4 ALGORITHM Nominal VPP Voltage: 9V, Detected: 0.00V MSID-Crypted: 8411D09FE03EFDBDACD0C5F9B2 Using MSID-FAID Cache, Not wasting card FAID-Crypted: 2AEA41225CE524B605171EC3 Flashbus Write baud set to 6.50Mbits 3 Region(s) to erase Erasing NOR Region [0x01000000-0x0101FFFF] Flash Erase Failed -> Failed at 0x01000000:0x00020000 Box VPP disabled Processing Flash Image Failed -> Erase Failed, Region: 0 Failed to Flash -> Problem with processing MCU Image file

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karwos No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34 Posts: 4,943 Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689	Check cable, and then, is your phone flash chip in working condition ?

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syrmic Freak Poster Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: egypt Age: 37 Posts: 245 Member: 625817 Status: Offline Sonork: 1592120 Thanks Meter: 32	can i ask one question what about tx2??? when i try use service pin 10 my box say that Partitioning OK Started group flash erase EraseArea[0,CMT]: 0x00040000-0x00082FFF, ONENAND EraseArea[0,CMT]: 0x00083400-0x0087FFFF, ONENAND EraseArea[0,CMT]: 0x00B80000-0x05F7FFFF, ONENAND Erase Partition (CMT) Erase Partition (CMT) Waiting 320s for erasure finish... Erase taken 1.110s Writing all blocks... Writing CMT ADA Certificate... Block Write Failed -> Failed to write CMT cert data (3), Programming Status Error Processing Flash Image Failed -> Failed to write all blocks Failed to Process all Image files -> Failed to process RM223_21.0.010_prd.C00

05-20-2009, 09:31	#15 (permalink)
ttlin5188 Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 梧州市 Posts: 277 Member: 23253 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 28	Started box selftests procedure USB Voltage 4.99v PASSED MCU Voltage 3.28v PASSED Core Voltage 1.76v PASSED VBAT Voltage 0.83v PASSED VBAT Voltage 4.68v PASSED Box VPP disabled VPP Voltage 0.04v PASSED Internal Box VPP Enabled VPP Voltage 4.92v PASSED Box VPP disabled VPP Voltage 0.02v PASSED External Box VPP Enabled VPP Voltage 0.04v FAILED - IGNORED - Probably power supply is not connected Box VPP disabled All box selftests passed! Initializing FBUS... All initialized - Ready to work MCU Version V 05wk07v48.2 MCU Date 04-10-07 Product RM-180 Manufacturer (c) Nokia. IMEI 353089020918245 Mastercode 1031445342 IMEI Spare 3A35800902192804 IMEI SV 3335800902192804F9000000 PPM V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054 PSN CIJ206164 Product Code 0531463 Basic Product Code 0530940 PSD 0000001700000000 APE SW V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokia APE Variant V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokia APE HW 256 APE ADSP 16054 RETU 32 TAHVO 53 AHNE 22 HW 5001i,(V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054 PCI i,(V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054 UEM V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054 UPP V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054 RFIC 150a160f DSP rolf_espresso_05wk07v29p1 LCD V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054 BT V 5.0819.4.0.1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (C)Nokiaj4.V 5.0819.4.0.1-APAC1, 07-05-08, RM-180, (c)Nokian256o16054 Failed to read info -> Failed to read extended info