can i .......

[Ice Dragon]

Originally posted by brittnee:
<STRONG>nice job, i would just like to ask if i should have the same number of dits and dats as to avoid contact service?
salamat</STRONG>

Not necessarily.

Let's take the Standard alert tone (Morse code for "M") as an example (using the 5110v5.30C flash):
5519, 400A, 5519, 400A
So it sounds like "dat-dat"
5519 - is a "dat" with a duration of 19
400A - is a pause with a duration of 0C

We could change it to:
550C, 400A, 5526, 400A
So it sounds like "dit-dat"

Take note that we subtracted hex 0D from the first 5519 and added it to the second 5519 to compensate the values so we wont have a contact service message.

Here's a more interesting one. Change the Standard alert tone (5519,400A, 5519,400A) to something like this:
5B19, 4005, 4F19, 400F
So it sounds like high-note-dat, low-note-dat

Or to something like:
4C0C, 4005, 5E25, 400F
So it sounds like low-note-dit, high-note-dat

Notice that we subtracted duration values from the first pause and add it to the next pause, and so with the first tone to the second tone.

Sometimes I get an error when I subtract values from the pause and add it to the tone. Or vice versa. It won't work.

So the following won't work in changing Special alert (morse code for "SMS"):
5A0C,400C,5A0C,400C,0AFE,5A0C,4025,
0A01,5A25,400C,5A25,4025,0AFE,
5A0C,400C,5A0C,400C,5A0C
That sounds like:
dit-dit-dit dat-dat dit-dit-dit
"5A0C" is a "dit" with a duration of 0C
"5A25" is a "dat" with a duration of 25
"400C" is a pause with a duration of 0C
"4025" is a pause with a duration of 25
"0AFE" is.... I don't know what this means, let me know

Into a variation of "Let's go":
5A0C,4025,5A0C,4025,0AFE,
5A0C,400C,0A01,5A0C,400C,5A0C,400C,0AFE,5A0C,4025,
5A0C,4025,5A0C
That sounds like:
dit-dit dit-dit-dit-dit dit-dit
"5A0C" is a "dit" with a duration of 0C
"400C" is a pause with a duration of 0C
"4025" is a pause with a duration of 25
"0AFE" is.... I don't know what this means, let me know

It wont work because we subtract values from pause and add it to the tone.

So that's that. I'm still studying the behaviour for the default ringtones.
Sure I can change some values without incurring a "Contact Service" but the tones won't make any sense.

Anyway, I would know who reads this forum in my area when I start hearing a different alert tone around here.

P.S. If you find some info here to be interesting, I only ask one thing: please rate me

BR

[brittnee]

very nice indeed, i've change the alert tone of my 6210, still looking for the standard tone, but i found the special tone which is the one i change, thanks a lot!!!!

[Ice Dragon]

Originally posted by brittnee:
<STRONG>very nice indeed, i've change the alert tone of my 6210, still looking for the standard tone, but i found the special tone which is the one i change, thanks a lot!!!!</STRONG>

On a 6210:
As always, before tinkering with your phone flash, make a full backup of your phone flash if you haven't yet.

Let's assume you don't have a full backup of your phone flash.

1. Read the flash address 00200000 to 00600000.

2. Copy the \flasher\flash.out to \nk_files\6210full.fls

3. Use a hex editor (I suggest Hexworks), open the \nk_files\6210full.fls and do the following to obtain a full flash without the EEPROM:

WARNING: If you notice the file contains FF00,FF00 from beginning to end, DO NOT PROCEED because this is a bad read flash.

3.1 Go to address 3FC000 (this is equivalent to flash address 005FC000)
3.2 Press Shift-Ctrl-Home. This will highlight the data from offset 00000000 to 003FC000. Release the keys.
3.3 Press Ctrl-C. This will copy the highlighted data to the clipboard or memory.
3.4 Press Ctrl-N. This will create an empty file.
3.5 Press Ctrl-V. you will be asked "Are you sure you want to insert?", select "Ok".
This will copy the previously highlighted data to the new file.
3.6 Save the file as "my6210.fls"

4. Make a copy of the flash that contains the alert tones.
4.1 Still using the hex editor, open the file "my6210.fls"
4.2 Go to offset 350000. Press Shift-Ctrl-Home. This will highlight the data from offset 00000000 to 003FC000. Release the keys.
4.3 Press Del. You will be asked "Are you sure you want to delete?". Press "Ok". This will delete the data from 0 to 350000.
4.4 Go to offset 10000. Press Shift-Ctrl-End. This will highlight the data from offset 10000 to the end of file.
4.5 Press Del. You will be asked "Are you sure you want to delete?". Press "Ok". This will leave you a 64k data from 0 to 10000 (which is equivalent to flash address 00550000 to 00560000).
4.6 Save the file as \nk_files\6210al.fls

5. Copy \nk_files\6210al.fls to \nk_files\alert.fls

6. Open the \nk_files\alert.fls with a hex editor (I use Hexworks).

7. Use the search string "8005020A01".
First stop should be the Special alert tone.
You will notice that there's "SMSS.......S.p.e.c.i.a.l" before it.

Pressing F3 will take you to the next found string. This is the Standard alert. You will notice that there's "SMS.......S.t.a.n.d.a.r.d" before it.

Again pressing F3 will take you to the next found string. This is the Ascending alert. You will notice that there's "SMSL.......L.o.n.g. .l.o.u.d" before it.

Don't forget when you flash it back, you should use alert.fls as source and the address should be 00550000.

Assuming you have flashed it back to the correct address and it shows a "Contact Service", you may have incorrectly modified your alert tone. If this happens, proceed to number 5.

If you want to flash it back to its original alert tones, flash it back with 6210al.fls at address 00550000.

But if it still has a Contact Service, flash it back with a my6210.fls starting from address 00200000. This should restore your original flash without the EEPROM part.

This procedure is a little bit for advanced flasher users. If you don't know what you're doing, don't try it out. You have yourself to blame if something pukes up.

Hmmm... I guess few people are interested in what I'm posting here. Out of more than 100 readers since my first posting in this thread, only 2 person rated me.

Oh well, all I'm asking is: rate me please

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[nuggie]

I've tryed to do this like that :

1.make a full backup 002 to 006 (6210)
2.edit with hexworkshop and change the SMS alert
3.try to correct checksums with NK1.2 to avoid Contact Service
4.put flash back to phone
5.works fine

Ice Dragon: does point 3 make any sense?

<FONT COLOR="#ffff00" SIZE="1">[ 05 July 2001 13:38: Message edited 3 times, lastly by nuggie ]</font>

[Ice Dragon]

Originally posted by nuggie:
<STRONG>I've tryed to do this like that :

1.make a full backup 002 to 006 (6210)
2.edit with hexworkshop and change the SMS alert
3.try to correct checksums with NK1.2 to avoid Contact Service
4.put flash back to phone
5.works fine

Ice Dragon: does point 3 make any sense?</STRONG>

Not only "sense" (cents), but also dollars... heh..heh...heh...

I did that already but it always take a long wait to write the whole modified flash back to the phone.

With a 5110v530C flash, I also tried cutting the first part of the modified flash (flash address 00200000-00210000), write it back to the phone, then cut the last part of the modified flash (002F0000-00300000) back to the phone so it would take a much lesser time.

The one I posted earlier is also to let our members reader learn a little bit about the alert and ring tones in the flash, and the possibility of changing them. Although I believe that our members here know more than I do.

Cheers to you... and best regards to all

<FONT COLOR="#ffff00" SIZE="1">[ 06 July 2001 03:10: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Ice Dragon ]</font>

[aZyWeRks]

Man, thanks a lot for the values. I'll try it.

And about the word addition information. I'll try to make a workaround on this if I have enough time. I've been off the internet for a time.

Thanks a lot man. You're great.


Regards,

aCe

[koloksky]

hi,

That is really cool!! thanks IceDragon!
u deserve a

regards

[nuggie]

Ice Dragon:
Look here at the ringtone info.
web page

<FONT COLOR="#ffff00" SIZE="1">[ 14 July 2001 20:26: Message edited 2 times, lastly by nuggie ]</font>

[Rayborg]

How does it works with a Nokia 3310?
I think there are other HexValues, but I´m not able to find them! Please help me!

[Ice Dragon]

Originally posted by Rayborg:
<STRONG>How does it works with a Nokia 3310?
I think there are other HexValues, but I´m not able to find them! Please help me!</STRONG>

Still use the search string: "8005020A01".

First stop should be the Special alert tone.
You will notice that previously the tones have 5A0C, 400C, 5A25, 400C values. With the 3310, it uses the 5B0C, 400C, 5A25, 400c values.
"5B0C" is a "dit" with a duration of 0C
"5B25" is a "dat" with a duration of 25
"400C" is a pause with a duration of 0C
"4025" is a pause with a duration of 25

Pressing F3 will take you to the next found string. This is the Standard alert. It uses the 5619, 400A, 5618, 400A values.
"5619" is a "dit" with a duration of 19
"400A" is a pause with a duration of 0A

Again pressing F3 will take you to the next found string. This is the Ascending alert. It uses the 5B0C, 400C, 5B25, 400C values.
"5B0C" is a "dit" with a duration of 0C
"5B25" is a "dat" with a duration of 25
"400C" is a pause with a duration of 0C
"4025" is a pause with a duration of 25

The alert tones on the 3310 reside in the MCU part of the full flash.

Best regards and cheers...

<FONT COLOR="#ffff00" SIZE="1">[ 23 July 2001 03:45: Message edited 1 time, lastly by Ice Dragon ]</font>

[pmcouto]

Does anyone have good Standard and Special Alert Tones, for 61xx and know how to change them?

Ice Dragon, thanks for posting the info, on this issue, I'm a bit new to this, but definetly I'm tired of the current alert tones.

Thanks,

Pm

[Rayborg]

Thank you Ice Dragon,
you are realy great!

[Furgo]

Ice you are a top man i changed my standard alert on my 3210 to the one posted on here and now everyone is buggin me to do it for them because they all like it so much, once again well done and congrats for findin this out