Motorola dead after Kima 7.7...please, help! - GSM-Forum

Migeni · 09-06-2002, 18:59

Hello, friends.

I tried to unlock my T191 using Kima soft 7.7. Motorola's S:1.71. After fast unlock phone is dead. I tried Repair/Unlock 1.71 - result is still dead phone. Can anyone help me to repair my phone. I really need help.

Best wishes,

Lugo · 09-06-2002, 20:11

Hi ,charge batery
and tray agein.

B.R.Lugo

Migeni · 09-06-2002, 20:30

Actually, the batary was full charged before unlock...What else should I try? Please, someone, help me!

sky178 · 09-06-2002, 21:23

remove internal small battary for one hour or more!!!!
it is upove the display

Migeni · 09-07-2002, 11:28

I did all you said, but nothing helped. Software says:

...
Erasing...
Flashing...

AND NOTHING HAPPENING!

If I am pressing fast unlock, it sais Done! but phone is still dead.

Please, help me!

DarkSkir · 09-07-2002, 12:05

flash it with DmtooL

UzIvaJ u ZivOtU

Migeni · 09-07-2002, 12:10

Yes, I knew that. But I don't know - how to do that. Can anyone tell me - how to flash T191 with DMtool? Thank you friend for your help!

Stoyan · 09-14-2002, 15:00

Same stupid problem....
Tried to activate language and............ dead
Explain how to flash with right software and flash?
10x

Z Newbie · 09-14-2002, 15:44

same probleme as you and i used DMtools ith out result.

Stoyan · 09-14-2002, 16:44

Is here anyone who can help.
Or you want just $$$.

thecult · 09-14-2002, 19:31

Stoyan: I have one dead t191 and I can't flash it, I tried to charge battery to full level with 4.5V, I tried to substract small battery and reasseble phone, but phone is really dead

I now know that it's possible to erase (for accident) the bootloader that is into flash on phone. This bootloader is necessary for flash, the bootloader do the communication with jack-Pc interface... if this info is erased (like my t191) then the phone is really really killed!

the only solution in this case is a low-level flash with jtag interface (expensive interface). This jtag use the rear connector (below the main battery) and takes the control of processor and flash phone... I don't know who has this interface, could SAT have it? I know (thanks to invisible) that this interface is based on Texas Instruments XDS510

other possibility is to desolder flash chip and solder other with bootloader, but it's out of my possibilities

I think that your t191 is in the same situation like mine, but I don't know... I will try to send it to repair to SAT... else, I don't know solution

If you find solution please tell me!

best regards

sorry for my very bad bad bad english

sky178 · 09-14-2002, 20:41

why it is dead when unlock it bt kima software

thecult · 09-14-2002, 21:16

i don't know. I was killed mine when I was upload an "unknown" and "misterious" flash that I was found on internet. The flash was uploaded in 0.1 seconds and the phone is deas forever

could be that it's not the same case than you

why kima soft could kill phones? don't know... but I know that kima soft use flashing method for unlock (partial flashing normally)

best regards

Deltas · 09-15-2002, 07:52

Hello!
if u have programmer tool ( laptool 48 ) , very easy for u !
-desolder flash chip ( f320c3t ) and program it with good t191 flash bin file .
- solder flash chip
- that all !working 100% , if u don't have good t191 flash bin file i will send for u !
- u can repaire Emei to the same original your phone very easy by DMTOOL ver 3.10

thecult · 09-15-2002, 11:04

thanks deltas, but my problem is that I can't desolder the flash chip... I don't have "hot-air-gun" and I don't have experience in rebowling soldiered ic's

and this programmer.... is easy to build? have you got an scheme? any trick? ... it's possible that I could buy a hot-air-gun for try it, but I think I will fisically kill the chip

best regards

09-06-2002, 18:59	#1 (permalink)
Migeni Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Europe Age: 44 Posts: 306 Member: 9736 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Motorola dead after Kima 7.7...please, help! Hello, friends. I tried to unlock my T191 using Kima soft 7.7. Motorola's S:1.71. After fast unlock phone is dead. I tried Repair/Unlock 1.71 - result is still dead phone. Can anyone help me to repair my phone. I really need help. Best wishes,

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09-06-2002, 20:11	#2 (permalink)
Lugo Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: www.lug.bg Age: 57 Posts: 117 Member: 1615 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 7	Hi ,charge batery and tray agein. B.R.Lugo

09-06-2002, 20:30	#3 (permalink)
Migeni Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Europe Age: 44 Posts: 306 Member: 9736 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Actually, the batary was full charged before unlock...What else should I try? Please, someone, help me!

09-06-2002, 21:23	#4 (permalink)
sky178 No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: GSM_land Age: 47 Posts: 639 Member: 15217 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 21	remove internal small battary for one hour or more!!!! it is upove the display

09-07-2002, 11:28	#5 (permalink)
Migeni Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Europe Age: 44 Posts: 306 Member: 9736 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I did all you said, but nothing helped. Software says: ... Erasing... Flashing... AND NOTHING HAPPENING! If I am pressing fast unlock, it sais Done! but phone is still dead. Please, help me!

09-07-2002, 12:05	#6 (permalink)
DarkSkir No Life Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bosnien Age: 43 Posts: 901 Member: 12904 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1576801 Thanks Meter: 409	flash it with DmtooL UzIvaJ u ZivOtU

09-07-2002, 12:10	#7 (permalink)
Migeni Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Europe Age: 44 Posts: 306 Member: 9736 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Yes, I knew that. But I don't know - how to do that. Can anyone tell me - how to flash T191 with DMtool? Thank you friend for your help!

09-14-2002, 15:00	#8 (permalink)
Stoyan No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BULGARIA Age: 53 Posts: 1,186 Member: 14868 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 44	Same stupid problem.... Tried to activate language and............ dead Explain how to flash with right software and flash? 10x

09-14-2002, 15:44	#9 (permalink)
Z Newbie Insane Poster Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 67 Member: 11597 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	same probleme as you and i used DMtools ith out result.

09-14-2002, 16:44	#10 (permalink)
Stoyan No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BULGARIA Age: 53 Posts: 1,186 Member: 14868 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 44	Is here anyone who can help. Or you want just $$$.

09-14-2002, 19:31	#11 (permalink)
thecult No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: burning phones Posts: 1,704 Member: 9700 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 62	Stoyan: I have one dead t191 and I can't flash it, I tried to charge battery to full level with 4.5V, I tried to substract small battery and reasseble phone, but phone is really dead I now know that it's possible to erase (for accident) the bootloader that is into flash on phone. This bootloader is necessary for flash, the bootloader do the communication with jack-Pc interface... if this info is erased (like my t191) then the phone is really really killed! the only solution in this case is a low-level flash with jtag interface (expensive interface). This jtag use the rear connector (below the main battery) and takes the control of processor and flash phone... I don't know who has this interface, could SAT have it? I know (thanks to invisible) that this interface is based on Texas Instruments XDS510 other possibility is to desolder flash chip and solder other with bootloader, but it's out of my possibilities I think that your t191 is in the same situation like mine, but I don't know... I will try to send it to repair to SAT... else, I don't know solution If you find solution please tell me! best regards sorry for my very bad bad bad english

09-14-2002, 20:41	#12 (permalink)
sky178 No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: GSM_land Age: 47 Posts: 639 Member: 15217 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 21	why it is dead when unlock it bt kima software

09-14-2002, 21:16	#13 (permalink)
thecult No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: burning phones Posts: 1,704 Member: 9700 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 62	i don't know. I was killed mine when I was upload an "unknown" and "misterious" flash that I was found on internet. The flash was uploaded in 0.1 seconds and the phone is deas forever could be that it's not the same case than you why kima soft could kill phones? don't know... but I know that kima soft use flashing method for unlock (partial flashing normally) best regards

09-15-2002, 07:52	#14 (permalink)
Deltas No Life Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vietnam Age: 57 Posts: 559 Member: 13356 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Hello! if u have programmer tool ( laptool 48 ) , very easy for u ! -desolder flash chip ( f320c3t ) and program it with good t191 flash bin file . - solder flash chip - that all !working 100% , if u don't have good t191 flash bin file i will send for u ! - u can repaire Emei to the same original your phone very easy by DMTOOL ver 3.10

09-15-2002, 11:04	#15 (permalink)
thecult No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: burning phones Posts: 1,704 Member: 9700 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 62	thanks deltas, but my problem is that I can't desolder the flash chip... I don't have "hot-air-gun" and I don't have experience in rebowling soldiered ic's and this programmer.... is easy to build? have you got an scheme? any trick? ... it's possible that I could buy a hot-air-gun for try it, but I think I will fisically kill the chip best regards