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todoportable · 06-01-2005, 13:40

End user is around 210€

luskao · 06-01-2005, 14:39

Wendigo you have a PM

Invisible · 06-02-2005, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by luskao

...they use rockey4 if you are looking for good software protection ....
BR

hi,

just for your info:

- Rockey dongle can be emulated, there is comercial emulators (Gosha from Brainstudio)

- Comunication with phone is done via serial port which can be easy sniffed for ripping bootloaders/partials as author is doing

If you want my opinion team should move to smartcard and make partial patching depending on phone imei

best regards
Invisible

wendigo · 06-02-2005, 10:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Invisible

hi,

just for your info:

- Rockey dongle can be emulated, there is comercial emulators (Gosha from Brainstudio)

- Comunication with phone is done via serial port which can be easy sniffed for ripping bootloaders/partials as author is doing

If you want my opinion team should move to smartcard and make partial patching depending on phone imei

best regards
Invisible

Hi invisible,

I know that Rockey4 can be emulated, and at this time working for better protection on PolarBox for our customers. Thanks in advance for your post

About comport sniffing is imposibble to do nothing about this, as u know, u can sniff all comunication between computer-phone of all boxes in the market (USB, COM, IRDA, etc...) and stand alone clips too. Only know one safe way to do this, crypting data before send and decrypting inside phone...

Ripping partials and bootloaders is easy, but remember after this u must to do some calculations... not easy like older models to release solutions...

\W3nd|g0
[ Santel Grp - Polar Team ]

Invisible · 06-02-2005, 13:01

hi

decrypt data in the phone involves a lot of work,
also calculations are just checksums which are not more complex that few XOR,

however if you generate partial dinamicaly with smart-card (even with that rocket) things get complex,
I think would be better to concentrate on reading unlock codes that improve protection, having the algo java card can make calculations and there is nothing to rip

best regards
Invisible

luskao · 06-02-2005, 13:24

Everything can be cracked but this rockey seems to be really difficult and if they use rockey 5 what will you do for cracking or decrypt??Remember that rockey5 is using smartcard...

Wendingo did you recieve my pm??

BR

Invisible · 06-02-2005, 13:30

LOL

ust also is using smart-card from version 6.0 pro...
should I say more?, "there is no security after obscurity" (R)fravia

best regards
Invisible

wendigo · 06-02-2005, 14:56

UST not was correctly protected Invisible ...
This is the main reason that is free now.

\W3nd|g0...

Invisible · 06-02-2005, 16:44

thats the point, the use of smartcard don´t mean anything,
home made protections are stronger most of the times

best regards
Invisible

wendigo · 06-02-2005, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Invisible

thats the point, the use of smartcard don´t mean anything,
home made protections are stronger most of the times

best regards
Invisible

Sure, but this section is not for talk about protections my friend.
If u desire contact with me at my ICQ

WBR,

\W3nd|g0
[ Santel Grp - Polar Team ]

**M@TRIX** · 06-02-2005, 20:59

good worke
but what about the support have flash file

and software olso have updat
and this will be free or we will need to pay

**.:hack3r2k:.** · 06-02-2005, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Invisible

LOL

ust also is using smart-card from version 6.0 pro...
should I say more?, "there is no security after obscurity" (R)fravia

best regards
Invisible

Fravia said many things during time and most of them don't apply know. Listen carefully my text: "It's not important what you use but how you use" (c)hack3r2k. And true ... crypting loaders will make a "1 min job a 5 min one"(c) the_laser. BTW ... Nothing will get emulated/cracked unless money invested and interest to disturb author. So ... long live Polar Box.

Br

VanHelsing · 06-03-2005, 08:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by .:hack3r2k:.

Fravia said many things during time and most of them don't apply know. Listen carefully my text: "It's not important what you use but how you use" (c)hack3r2k. And true ... crypting loaders will make a "1 min job a 5 min one"(c) the_laser. BTW ... Nothing will get emulated/cracked unless money invested and interest to disturb author. So ... long live Polar Box.

Br

Well said! You can kill with your bare hands if you know how to do it

anilgsm · 06-10-2005, 08:23

nice pic of work for alcatel models and nice security to

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06-01-2005, 13:40	#16 (permalink)
todoportable Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jerez de la Frontera , Cadiz , SPAIN Age: 48 Posts: 410 Member: 115106 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4	End user is around 210€

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luskao Product Supporter Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 5,993 Member: 81703 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1,332	Wendigo you have a PM

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Invisible No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: รำมว&# Posts: 2,461 Member: 3956 Status: Offline Sonork: galletto3 rules :D Thanks Meter: 55	hi decrypt data in the phone involves a lot of work, also calculations are just checksums which are not more complex that few XOR, however if you generate partial dinamicaly with smart-card (even with that rocket) things get complex, I think would be better to concentrate on reading unlock codes that improve protection, having the algo java card can make calculations and there is nothing to rip best regards Invisible

06-02-2005, 13:24	#21 (permalink)
luskao Product Supporter Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 5,993 Member: 81703 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1,332	Everything can be cracked but this rockey seems to be really difficult and if they use rockey 5 what will you do for cracking or decrypt??Remember that rockey5 is using smartcard... Wendingo did you recieve my pm?? BR

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Invisible No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: รำมว&# Posts: 2,461 Member: 3956 Status: Offline Sonork: galletto3 rules :D Thanks Meter: 55	LOL ust also is using smart-card from version 6.0 pro... should I say more?, "there is no security after obscurity" (R)fravia best regards Invisible

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wendigo No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside PolarBox Posts: 4,037 Member: 10286 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.90962 Thanks Meter: 4,353	UST not was correctly protected Invisible ... This is the main reason that is free now. \W3nd\|g0...

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Invisible No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: รำมว&# Posts: 2,461 Member: 3956 Status: Offline Sonork: galletto3 rules :D Thanks Meter: 55	thats the point, the use of smartcard don´t mean anything, home made protections are stronger most of the times best regards Invisible

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M@TRIX Product Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ✿ Age: 47 Posts: 621 Member: 17865 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.73724 Thanks Meter: 267	good worke but what about the support have flash file and software olso have updat and this will be free or we will need to pay

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anilgsm Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 105 Member: 58181 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 37	nice pic of work for alcatel models and nice security to