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Old 02-15-2002, 23:12   #1 (permalink)
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I'm stopping with dongle sales so...


... please do not contact me regarding sales of cloned Dejan 1.02 boxes because requests will not be answered. I'm sold out...

Since the stupid price war has gone to far and many new "5-minute-glory" dudes showed up lately, I definately stop with sales of 1.02 dongle. The time to make money on Dejan's dongle was last year when the dongle costed 2000-3000 and more US$. Not now. Now's to late guys <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

Because dudes were clever to release the hex, and since dudes are fighting each other prices just to make 5 US$, and since dudes can't sell cheap as well, just to inform all of you "5-minute-glory" dudes that a dongle version without PIC is comming out. That means upgrading your phone simple as you unlock your Nokia today. And the whole dongle will cost 5 US$ <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

So I feel sorry for all you "5-minute-glory" lovers who bought hundreds and hundreds of PICs, PCB boards, components, connectors etc. You have to sell it fast, and cheaper <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> , otherwise you loose.

So next time you guys want to sell something, and at the same time to make money, learn from guys like Spear, Bontek and many other sellers. They don't sell their goods for nothing

And I'm shure many on this forum agree with me <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> so please save me from comments because I made enough. Just feel sorry for you...

Regards & good luck

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Old 02-15-2002, 23:37   #2 (permalink)
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@spalato

Thats not your problem if they loss now selling the dongle cheper so leave these guys alone everybody is enitled to do what he wants its the buyers problem.

Since you made a lot selling the dongles before let the other people sell them if they make a profit or not it does not concern you if they do so good if not thats there problem they should know that before they make a hundred clone boxes.

You dont have the right to insult those "5minute guys" which sells the dongles cheaper than you do because not everybody bought from you expensive dongles before and im sure not everybody complains with the low prices they sell and not everybody not has a dejan dongle yet.

By the way this is sales purchase section if your not selling anything why put this topic here you can put it on the off topic section or post it on your site you should know this being a longtime member

lastly you have no right to insult the people who sells dongles now cheap... i didnt see a post from Dejan himself complaining.. why then should you becuse you also sold cones of this original masterpiece cheaper than his original which others like me bought for $2000

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Old 02-15-2002, 23:56   #3 (permalink)
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You didn't understood the message so, please read once again...

BTW, I own a original Dejan 1.02 box as well. Bought less than a year ago

Don't worry... be happy <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

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Old 02-24-2002, 20:45   #4 (permalink)
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[quote]Originally posted by Spalato:<br /><strong>You didn't understood the message so, please read once again...

Spalato</strong><hr></blockquote>

Looks like not many listened to me a week ago and stopped their business.

Check Dejan's site and enjoy <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> ...

Spalato

P.S.: a good "inside" information is well worth
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Old 02-24-2002, 21:19   #5 (permalink)
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Hi, Spalato

I don't think the Dejan Dongle business will be<br />dead, let see how many people make their phone<br />dead with some 'Classic' flasher by using wrong<br />flash loader or address, you should know that<br />some guys is selling the Dejan Dongle at USD20<br />only (in bulk of-course), also, the software<br />for the Dejan Dongle (NK105 or WinDLS) is much <br />easier for use, (with the classic flasher, some<br />new flash ROM is not supported, neither READ nor<br />WRITE or you need to use different patched loader).<br />Sometimes they will cause problem (phone cannot<br />power up after flashing by classic flasher), how<br />they can use the MBUS for updating the phone?<br />Anyway, they still have to get the MBUS and Flasher<br />cables, if the seller is selling the Dongle with<br />cables at USD20 only, I think I rather to pay <br />USD20 for the Dongle set rather than play with<br />the classic flasher (you still have to buy a <br />standard flasher cable !!!!!)

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Old 02-24-2002, 23:08   #6 (permalink)
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Well guess Spalato is right after all <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Now Dejan release the NK_CALC for Nokia FAID, IMEI and SP calculator! and it FREE <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <br />No need for Dongles and expensive IMEI Repairer <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

All thanks to Dejan <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <br />and my friend Spalato <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
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Old 02-24-2002, 23:58   #7 (permalink)
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I agree with Zerocool its been way too long people making not just a living but making MASSIVE amounts of money out of this "SCAM" thats what I call it a "SCAM" the biggest money was made by the people that deserved it Dejan and Zulea, the rest just cashed in on the back of those two. what gives people the right to charge sometimes 2000us for something that costs 5us when the work they put into it is .01 percent? no one only greed drives people to rip off friends and I for one am glad there are no more secrets I simply find the idea of buying a program or hex then protecting it and selling for vast amounts of money to people less fortunate than themselves an absolte disgrace especially when this forum was set up to help each other not milk each other.

Dont get me wrong we all make money by unlocking phones maybe 10us per phone, this is fair you buy a PC you spend time working with it buying kits and cables then spend time unlocking this is called "WORK" the above is called "ROBBING"

Now all secrets are out maybe we can all work towards DCT4 and maybe look after our friends a little bit better.

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....the above is called "ROBBING" ???Dejan clones or modified Nokia algorithm, Spalato sold dejan clone dongles and you use robbed free soft and call this robbing??

"Now all secrets are out maybe we can all work towards DCT4 and maybe look after our friends a little bit better"

We can work towards on DCT4???You mean you wait for a new free solution????

Spalato, in a few days when you offer DCT4 solution you will be their best friend.

Good luck for you in future.

My best regards

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Too buy or not too buy? To make money or be jealous of others efforts? Well, good luck to all in buying and selling, whether it is goods or SW, it does not matter. It is work however you look at it, some charge more than others, thats all.

This argument appears on this forum almost as often as the "SEND ME TOO" posts.
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Old 02-25-2002, 03:00   #10 (permalink)
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95% members of this forum are "takers" - give me, send me, mail me, share with me. Only 5% are "givers" wich have websites, give links, share softwares, make all their files available to others. Still those 95% are not satisfied. They want more and if you don't give them more, they spit on you, although you gave them almost all.

So, those 95% have their brains only focused on clicking a link and download a software. Althought most of it they will probably never use, they click and they download it onto their hard disks. So, clicking and downloading is all they know so that's why they simply didn't knew how to understand my post above.

Some time ago, when I wrote on the forum that the hex will be free in 2 weeks (and it was free in 2 weeks), few people replied with some of the most stupid post I've ever read on this forum. So, the hex was free, everybody downloaded it, 1% could use it but the most important thing was "to have it". Ten days ago I tried to tell you in a different way why I'm stopping with dongle sales 'cause a PIC free soft will come out. Again spitting on me.

Obviously it's not good to share "insider" informations with "click & download" population so I won't do that again and I too will join those 95% <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

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My post was not aimed at anyone in particular ToTo you assumed it was aimed at Spalato because its his post, it was not, Spalato has in the past been a very good and valuble source of information and help, my post is aimed at all GSM who try to rip off other peoples ideas Software hexes ect for their own ends which are to make bucketfuls of money out of lesser educated and poorer people.

I dont mean the guy who sells someone elses software for 20us or the guy who does a service by making logger for 10us I am talking about the companys who are members of this forum, which I dont need to mention, who take someone else work (no not take steal) and then charge 2000us for it.

Well all good things come to an end <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

And I havent asked for any stolen software on this forum at all, the only things I have ever wanted is help, yes we all use software with unknown origins including me but I am not asking people on this forum to make me a millionaire am I.

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Old 02-25-2002, 13:11   #12 (permalink)
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Maroon......i dont really know why are u trying to prove something to that 95% of members here......i dont know if i am in that 95% or not.....but i think that isn't worth of explaining why this and why that..........<br />you only throwing words away,because if u write "I HAVE THE DCT 4 FLASHER,mail me" in this topic,you will se 100's of SEND ME messages even you wrote all this long posts here because NOBODY READS YOUR POSTS MAN....sorry but its true.....<br />regards......
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Sorry for all

Dejan dongle when I first bought was 2600usd, I did not earned what I want in return but I'm still happy and contented ever than before I'm not complaining of anything because I take it not a "so sorry" investment after all. I've a different outlook on it and looking then that the time will come that this one Dejan tool will be distinguished as an "Ultimate Collector's Item" with the matching fingerprints and self-made by DEJAN himself and not a PERFECT cloned of a masterpiece of somebody else.

I'm not stopping selling dongle up to today... because I find it also relevant up to now if your in GSM or Nokia in particular endeavors... even prices rapidly go down expectedly I still keep in my cabinet hundreds of PICs (still with no regrets). Many are latecomers in GSM Unlocking business. I make it a point that, when they asked me of a tool of repairing Nokia phones, I still suggest "DEJAN BOX 1.05" and an additional MBUS for FREE for repairing eeprom related and IMEI problems.

Here in forum, you must think of helping not just asking... you must think of sharing instead of receiving... I hope, I share my insights of this DEJAN dongle sales...

Pls do include me (maybe) in the 5%...
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